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Was the Ending a Hallucination? - Indoctrination Theory Mark III!


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Arian Dynas wrote...

Also, what's new? Other than us having a new record we're hitting and a discussion about bunnies?

Hello! I'm sorry... I don't know exactly what you have heard about so I'll start with Omega DLC on November 27th, with Collectors not making an apearence.

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Watching this guy's video about the ending. He also supports IT and talks about it near the end of his video. Although he's got an extreme potty mouth, I'll just warn anyone.

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Arian Dynas wrote...

Also, what's new? Other than us having a new record we're hitting and a discussion about bunnies?


What new record did I miss?

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magnetite wrote...

Watching this guy's video about the ending. He also supports IT and talks about it near the end of his video. Although he's got an extreme potty mouth, I'll just warn anyone.


I'd watch it, but I'm watching the debate on xbox live. It's cool because they poll you while you're watching.

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magnetite wrote...

Watching this guy's video about the ending. He also supports IT and talks about it near the end of his video. Although he's got an extreme potty mouth, I'll just warn anyone.

I've gotta say, I like that title.

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So I had a thought about Shepard at the end. As we all know Shepard doesn't know that he, or she is being Indoctrinated. Yet we the player ( Shepard's mind) do. We try to tell Shepard that something is not right, yet we can't until the Catalyst stops talking. Notice when we talk with TIM it's the only time where we the player can not control Shepard's body at all.

Shepard shoots Anderson, and moments later we see Shepard bleed from the same spot, and it looks like a bullet wound.

We also know that Anderson and TIM are created for Shepard's personalitys.

Anderson= not corrupted by the Reapers ( the other mind.)
TIM= the corrupted part of Shepard's mind ( the other other half)

We represent both. The play by this point has been thinking about Controlling the Reapers since the beginning of ME3. Yet we are still thinking about Destroying the Reapers.

Now going back to what TIM said " .... Cerberus is an idea." Wait I thought TIM told Shepard that " Cerberus represent humanity, and " strength for Cerberus is strength for every human."

Yet you can tell by this point if you don't know TIM is Indoctrinated, and not himself.

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If I had a jar and for every bad word this guy says I will be rich in by the end of his video. And finally a guy that makes sense.

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just thought of something. Shep comes across a copy of a VI of his/her personality on the Citadel in the Refugee camp. They say " I don't really sound like that, do I?"

Cut to the end, in Control, Shepard talking like a Reaper is jarring and doesn't sound like Shepard. I'm thinking, " my Shepard doesn't sound like that. "  Sure it was supposed to be humorous but the VI seems like very subtle foreshadowing to me.

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BatmanTurian wrote...

just thought of something. Shep comes across a copy of a VI of his/her personality on the Citadel in the Refugee camp. They say " I don't really sound like that, do I?"

Cut to the end, in Control, Shepard talking like a Reaper is jarring and doesn't sound like Shepard. I'm thinking, " my Shepard doesn't sound like that. "  Sure it was supposed to be humorous but the VI seems like very subtle foreshadowing to me.

The only thing wrong with that reasoning is that supposedly the EC wasn't planned. Unless the DLC  was composed from the scenes that didn't make it into the original.

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byne wrote...

Arian Dynas wrote...

Also, what's new? Other than us having a new record we're hitting and a discussion about bunnies?


What new record did I miss?

Speaking in general, the last time I made an apearance for more than an hour was around page 300 of this thread I think.

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401 Kill wrote...

Arian Dynas wrote...

Also, what's new? Other than us having a new record we're hitting and a discussion about bunnies?

Hello! I'm sorry... I don't know exactly what you have heard about so I'll start with Omega DLC on November 27th, with Collectors not making an apearence.


I never expected Collectors in Omega.

In later DLC? Yeah maybe.

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paxxton wrote...

BatmanTurian wrote...

just thought of something. Shep comes across a copy of a VI of his/her personality on the Citadel in the Refugee camp. They say " I don't really sound like that, do I?"

Cut to the end, in Control, Shepard talking like a Reaper is jarring and doesn't sound like Shepard. I'm thinking, " my Shepard doesn't sound like that. "  Sure it was supposed to be humorous but the VI seems like very subtle foreshadowing to me.

The only thing wrong with that reasoning is that supposedly the EC wasn't planned. Unless the DLC  was composed from the scenes that didn't make it into the original.


Paxxton paxxton paxxton...

Don't you remember?

http://social.biowar.../index/12162340

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paxxton wrote...

BatmanTurian wrote...

just thought of something. Shep comes across a copy of a VI of his/her personality on the Citadel in the Refugee camp. They say " I don't really sound like that, do I?"

Cut to the end, in Control, Shepard talking like a Reaper is jarring and doesn't sound like Shepard. I'm thinking, " my Shepard doesn't sound like that. "  Sure it was supposed to be humorous but the VI seems like very subtle foreshadowing to me.

The only thing wrong with that reasoning is that supposedly the EC wasn't planned. Unless the DLC  was composed from the scenes that didn't make it into the original.


Yeah, didn't think of that. Maybe not foreshadowing, maybe retroactive foreshadowing or perhaps it was supposed to make us wonder if Shep is partly VI and the copy is because of that....

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Arian Dynas wrote...

paxxton wrote...

BatmanTurian wrote...

just thought of something. Shep comes across a copy of a VI of his/her personality on the Citadel in the Refugee camp. They say " I don't really sound like that, do I?"

Cut to the end, in Control, Shepard talking like a Reaper is jarring and doesn't sound like Shepard. I'm thinking, " my Shepard doesn't sound like that. "  Sure it was supposed to be humorous but the VI seems like very subtle foreshadowing to me.

The only thing wrong with that reasoning is that supposedly the EC wasn't planned. Unless the DLC  was composed from the scenes that didn't make it into the original.


Paxxton paxxton paxxton...

Don't you remember?

http://social.biowar.../index/12162340


Forgot that too. We should keep going back to it. It's been fairly accurate.

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Man that is a great piece of text there.

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Arian Dynas wrote...

byne wrote...

Arian Dynas wrote...

Also, what's new? Other than us having a new record we're hitting and a discussion about bunnies?


What new record did I miss?

Speaking in general, the last time I made an apearance for more than an hour was around page 300 of this thread I think.


Man, has it really been that long?  You need to come around more often! :D

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Arian Dynas wrote...

paxxton wrote...

BatmanTurian wrote...

just thought of something. Shep comes across a copy of a VI of his/her personality on the Citadel in the Refugee camp. They say " I don't really sound like that, do I?"

Cut to the end, in Control, Shepard talking like a Reaper is jarring and doesn't sound like Shepard. I'm thinking, " my Shepard doesn't sound like that. "  Sure it was supposed to be humorous but the VI seems like very subtle foreshadowing to me.

The only thing wrong with that reasoning is that supposedly the EC wasn't planned. Unless the DLC  was composed from the scenes that didn't make it into the original.


Paxxton paxxton paxxton...

Don't you remember?

http://social.biowar.../index/12162340

Yeah, I remember. Posted Image

Arian Dynas wrote...

I don't think the EC was planned at all.

What I meant was that the writers wrote more story than made it to the original product
(like with the deleted scenes in movies). Hence some things like Shepard's VI might have had a foreshadowing factor to them even though what they foreshadowed wasn't in the game.

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byne wrote...

Arian Dynas wrote...

byne wrote...

Arian Dynas wrote...

Also, what's new? Other than us having a new record we're hitting and a discussion about bunnies?


What new record did I miss?

Speaking in general, the last time I made an apearance for more than an hour was around page 300 of this thread I think.


Man, has it really been that long?  You need to come around more often! :D


Seconded. Posted Image

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401 Kill wrote...

Man that is a great piece of text there.


It really is (assume you are talking about Arian's theory).

Modifié par D.Sharrah, 17 octobre 2012 - 02:52 .


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paxxton wrote...

snip...

What I meant was that the writers wrote more story than made it to the original product
(like with the deleted scenes in movies). Hence some things like Shepard's VI might have had a foreshadowing factor to them even though what they foreshadowed wasn't in the game.


That is a very good point.

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Anyone notice that the Krogan Shaman is up on the N7 HQ...anyone actually unlocked yet in MP?

Edit:  Just checked the one person that I thought might have it unlocked...Hellish...and yep, he does.

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D.Sharrah wrote...

Anyone notice that the Krogan Shaman is up on the N7 HQ...anyone actually unlocked yet in MP?


You mean the Krogan version of the Male Adept?

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AresKeith wrote...

D.Sharrah wrote...

Anyone notice that the Krogan Shaman is up on the N7 HQ...anyone actually unlocked yet in MP?


You mean the Krogan version of the Male Adept?


Yep.

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D.Sharrah wrote...

paxxton wrote...

snip...

What I meant was that the writers wrote more story than made it to the original product
(like with the deleted scenes in movies). Hence some things like Shepard's VI might have had a foreshadowing factor to them even though what they foreshadowed wasn't in the game.


That is a very good point.


Don't forget the part in Cronos where Shepard questions if he is actually a VI who thinks s/he's Shepard. 

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we found an Earth-sized planet around Alpha Centauri B.
http://www.eso.org/p...c/news/eso1241/

B is less powerful than our Sun, so the fact that it's as close to their star as Mercury is to ours (3 day orbit) means it would be cooler than Mercury. It might still need to be moved out further from orbit. Maybe we'll find another planet though. Still, it's encouraging!