BansheeOwnage wrote...
@BatmanTurian Yup. Humanity is pretty stupid as a whole. It's unfortunate, but my view seems to be this:
I love individual people; I hate humanity. Make sense?
smokingotter1 wrote...
The kid can't be involved in IT...can he? edit: Also backbone of IT is Anderson being born in London.paxxton wrote...
The Kid? That's a surprising result.
paxxton wrote...
LOL. I know that. I was just surprised because there were seemingly more convincing options in that poll. I myself chose the Guardian. And there was Anderson & TIM too. The kid definitely foreshadows IT but it's only in the Catalyst's Chamber that we learn what purpose he'd served throughout the game. Therefore the Catalyst and his form are stronger catalysts of IT.
EDIT: It's not the top of the world...
Modifié par Bill Casey, 17 octobre 2012 - 07:22 .
One could say the same thing about you posting on this thread every day.BatmanTurian wrote...
plfranke wrote...
I think it's because they feel you guys are living in delusion, and that you giving credit to something that is terrible as if it's a grand piece of writing (and even if IT is true, whether or not it's good writing is still up for debate) is insulting.
It's still stupid to care that much about a video game interpretation.
D.Sharrah wrote...
So I was thinking about Virmire today...we know that wasn't studying rapid indoctrination (since nothing was getting huskified)...but does anything ever suggest how he was implementing the slow indoctrination process? Might go a long way to help explain IT...
The kid and the Catalyst are inseperable and have to be considered together.Bill Casey wrote...
paxxton wrote...
LOL. I know that. I was just surprised because there were seemingly more convincing options in that poll. I myself chose the Guardian. And there was Anderson & TIM too. The kid definitely foreshadows IT but it's only in the Catalyst's Chamber that we learn what purpose he'd served throughout the game. Therefore the Catalyst and his form are stronger catalysts of IT.
EDIT: It's not the top of the world...
The Catalyst's form is the Kid...
It should be included in the Kid option...
BansheeOwnage wrote...
@BatmanTurian Yup. Humanity is pretty stupid as a whole. It's unfortunate, but my view seems to be this:
I love individual people; I hate humanity. Make sense?
paxxton wrote...
The kid and the Catalyst are inseperable and have to be considered together.Bill Casey wrote...
paxxton wrote...
LOL. I know that. I was just surprised because there were seemingly more convincing options in that poll. I myself chose the Guardian. And there was Anderson & TIM too. The kid definitely foreshadows IT but it's only in the Catalyst's Chamber that we learn what purpose he'd served throughout the game. Therefore the Catalyst and his form are stronger catalysts of IT.
EDIT: It's not the top of the world...
The Catalyst's form is the Kid...
It should be included in the Kid option...
plfranke wrote...
One could say the same thing about you posting on this thread every day.BatmanTurian wrote...
plfranke wrote...
I think it's because they feel you guys are living in delusion, and that you giving credit to something that is terrible as if it's a grand piece of writing (and even if IT is true, whether or not it's good writing is still up for debate) is insulting.
It's still stupid to care that much about a video game interpretation.
Quod one would be wrong. We do this as fans of the series and engage in speculations six plus months after because we are fans. People that specifically bash IT without reason and go so far as to ostracize ITers? Making us the butt of jokes? That's just petty and highschool bollocks right there. I would say it's mostly born out of their desire to be right so they can shove it in our faces that we're all wrong. But I didn't say that.plfranke wrote...
One could say the same thing about you posting on this thread every day.BatmanTurian wrote...
plfranke wrote...
I think it's because they feel you guys are living in delusion, and that you giving credit to something that is terrible as if it's a grand piece of writing (and even if IT is true, whether or not it's good writing is still up for debate) is insulting.
It's still stupid to care that much about a video game interpretation.
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Modifié par Bill Casey, 17 octobre 2012 - 07:50 .
I guess it's because he's not the real Catalyst and the subs point to his form.Home run MF wrote...
paxxton wrote...
The kid and the Catalyst are inseperable and have to be considered together.Bill Casey wrote...
paxxton wrote...
LOL. I know that. I was just surprised because there were seemingly more convincing options in that poll. I myself chose the Guardian. And there was Anderson & TIM too. The kid definitely foreshadows IT but it's only in the Catalyst's Chamber that we learn what purpose he'd served throughout the game. Therefore the Catalyst and his form are stronger catalysts of IT.
EDIT: It's not the top of the world...
The Catalyst's form is the Kid...
It should be included in the Kid option...
I don't know, if you play with subs on he is never called catalyst in the hole conversation he is always Child.
You're too quick to dismiss things as "stupid" without thinking about actual reasons that people are doing things. If you made more of an effort, you would understand it more. I like many of the people on this thread, that's why I came. I saw a post I could add to, that's why I posted. However, I guess that's just too stupid by your standards.BatmanTurian wrote...
plfranke wrote...
One could say the same thing about you posting on this thread every day.BatmanTurian wrote...
plfranke wrote...
I think it's because they feel you guys are living in delusion, and that you giving credit to something that is terrible as if it's a grand piece of writing (and even if IT is true, whether or not it's good writing is still up for debate) is insulting.
It's still stupid to care that much about a video game interpretation.
Well, you no longer believe this stuff by your own admission, so me discussing it is less stupid than you coming in here.
paxxton wrote...
I guess it's because he's not the real Catalyst and the subs point to his form.
plfranke wrote...
You're too quick to dismiss things as "stupid" without thinking about actual reasons that people are doing things. If you made more of an effort, you would understand it more. I like many of the people on this thread, that's why I came. I saw a post I could add to, that's why I posted. However, I guess that's just too stupid by your standards.BatmanTurian wrote...
plfranke wrote...
One could say the same thing about you posting on this thread every day.BatmanTurian wrote...
plfranke wrote...
I think it's because they feel you guys are living in delusion, and that you giving credit to something that is terrible as if it's a grand piece of writing (and even if IT is true, whether or not it's good writing is still up for debate) is insulting.
It's still stupid to care that much about a video game interpretation.
Well, you no longer believe this stuff by your own admission, so me discussing it is less stupid than you coming in here.
Bill Casey wrote...
Rana Thanoptis Quotes:
"You think the indoctrination only effects prisoners? Sooner or later, Saren will want to dissect my brain too."
"It's that ship. Sovereign. It emits some kind of signal. Undetectable, but it's there. I've seen the effects. Saren uses it to influence his followers. To control them. It's called indoctrination. Direct exposure to the signal turns you into a mindless slave, like the Salarian test subjects. But there's collateral damage, too"
"Sovereign's signal is too strong (weird sound effect here) spend too much time near the ship and you feel it, like a tingle at the back of your skull. It's like a whisper you can't quite hear, but you're compelled to do things but you don't know why. You just obey. Eventually, you just stop thinking for yourself. It happens to everyone at the facility. My first test subject was the man I replaced."
"The signal comes from the ship. It makes us obey Saren, but I don't think he controls it. Not exactly. I think... he's scared it might be affecting him. (weird sound effect here) Indoctrination is subtle, by the time the effects become noticeable, it's usually too late."
"Signal's not exactly the right word. There's some kind of energy field emanating from the ship. It changes thought patterns (weird sound effect here) Over time. Days. Maybe a week, it weakens your will. You become easier to manipulate and control, but it's a degenerative condition. There is a balance between control and usefulness. The less freedom a subject maintains, the less capable it becomes."
www.youtube.com/watch
Just means more bloody Cerberus Troopers to take out. As if we don't fight them enough...estebanus wrote...
I still don't see how.Kyrene wrote...
No Collectors in Omega DLC? Implications... unpleasant...
Did you really thinki that we'd be facing collectors in Omega? Really? Because that really makes no sense. Did you even think that we'd be seing the collectors again before that MP DLC was released?PsiMatrix wrote...
Just means more bloody Cerberus Troopers to take out. As if we don't fight them enough...estebanus wrote...
I still don't see how.Kyrene wrote...
No Collectors in Omega DLC? Implications... unpleasant...
Well no Collectors gives less reason to have Harbinger in Omega DLC. That implication is unpleasant, IMO.Bill Casey wrote...
Yeah, I don't see how that's unpleasant implications...
lol I wasn't calling you stupid. I was saying that putting forth that argument would make everyone here stupid, to make you see that it didn't make any sense.BatmanTurian wrote...
plfranke wrote...
You're too quick to dismiss things as "stupid" without thinking about actual reasons that people are doing things. If you made more of an effort, you would understand it more. I like many of the people on this thread, that's why I came. I saw a post I could add to, that's why I posted. However, I guess that's just too stupid by your standards.BatmanTurian wrote...
plfranke wrote...
One could say the same thing about you posting on this thread every day.BatmanTurian wrote...
plfranke wrote...
I think it's because they feel you guys are living in delusion, and that you giving credit to something that is terrible as if it's a grand piece of writing (and even if IT is true, whether or not it's good writing is still up for debate) is insulting.
It's still stupid to care that much about a video game interpretation.
Well, you no longer believe this stuff by your own admission, so me discussing it is less stupid than you coming in here.
I'm just stating facts as they are. You implied I was stupid by talking about it in this thread after I said other people were stupid for trying to halt discussion by insults. Therefore, you technically insulted me first. Don't try to turn it around on me.
I know the reasons and Thisoneispunny is right about them. It is nothing but childish blather lashing out at us since they can't talk directly to Bioware. Again, it's stupid.
We've literally no connections between ME3, the collectors, and Omega. However, we've had plenty foreshadowing about us having to fight Cerberus on Omega.Kyrene wrote...
Well no Collectors gives less reason to have Harbinger in Omega DLC. That implication is unpleasant, IMO.Bill Casey wrote...
Yeah, I don't see how that's unpleasant implications...
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