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How cool! Just 20 years away. Posted Image  

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Does the Multiplayer OP get announced today?

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No. Weird.

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Illium is a classic garden world, an entrepot between the Terminus Systems and the Asari Republics. To abet this trade, the normally stringent custom laws of Citadel space on product safety, proscribed materials, and sapient trafficking are relaxed. This world is hot and massive; ground settlement is only possible at the higher polar latitudes. In more equatorial locations, the population is housed in arcology skyscrapers to escape the heat of the surface.
Reaper forces met a surprising amount of resistance at Illium. Its leaders were paranoid about keeping their fortunes, and were influential in both Terminus and Citadel space. They acquired a large defense fleet and a high number of fission weapons, and in the brief space battle, used them on the Reaper fleet's troop transports rather their near-impervious capital ships. As a result, the inevitable ground invasion has been slowed to a crawl as the Reapers manufacture more troops.

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Restrider wrote...


Ladies and Gentlemen,
I proudly present the results of the last poll. The list has been updated  and I encourage you to take part at the new polland the survey about your choice at your first playthrough.
I would also like to have you spread the word about these polls to anyone who is interested in this topic.



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Strange how there are always some random eruptions of trolls/lit(t)eralists in the IT polls and they all try to reason against the theory in such ridiculous ways. I can get it, when people lose hope and are disappointed, but stating that the lit(t)eral endings are more consistent and logical than IT without at least trying to back these statements up with something is just an insult to anyone who has put some thought into the ME series and the ending(s) of ME 3.
And they are all so predictable (insider joke for spotless).

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Your in game evidence for IT is solid, but outside of the game evidence is overwhelmingly against IT.

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Something just hit me. A recent conversation in multiplayer with a BioWare employee revealed that a lot of people simply don't grab the DLC's, not even the free ones.

...............there are people out there who are playing ME3 without the Extended Cut.

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Bill Casey wrote...
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Basically, what is that sound effect?
It's like a swishing sound...

I checked other Rana videos and it happens in the same spots...


The leslie/echo type effect?
It is not part of the music, then? Separate sound files?
It does have a "whispery" quality to it - don't know whether to guess it more than part of a topical mood sound bed.

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estebanus wrote...

TSA_383 wrote...

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Is it just me or is Omega exploding in this photo?

I think it may be the sun in the background you're seeing.
Also, the Normandy wouldn't be flying towards it if that were true.


So why is Omega (the asteroid portion) illuminated? If it was the sun it would be like an eclipse, not illuminated. Personally having the ability to blow it up would be awesome. ME3 needs MOAR EXPLOSIONS!!!! 

Also...on Collectors in SP...totally possible. Why impliment it in MP to not have it in the DLC? There is also foreshadowing about it as well. In the books at least...it is told to the reader that Collectors are known to make deals there (makes sense cause of Omega relay) but also that there is a possiblilty that Omega is of Reaper origin. (Hinted at in Retribution. [fun fact: synonym for retaliation is retribution.]) I even thought up a possible reason in 5 minutes. Omega is a cloning factory for producing collectors. Totally logical...

On the survey for top 10 proof of IT, I feel the Guardian must be in the top 5. I mean really. It is damning proof. Literalist or not, it shows that the LEADER OF THE REAPERS IS IN SHEPARDS MIND. That's what IT is all about!!!!! 

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SwobyJ wrote...

“Repent! The end is nigh!”

Humans are a blight on galactic purity. You sir! You are a blight! And you! And you, human. And you! (points to Shepard).”

“The Protheans cast off the lesser races: the krogan, the vorcha, and the humans. "And so they dwelled in filth, on worlds made of dirt and feces, and there they lay until they stumbled into the skies." The lesser races will be our downfall! The Word is clear.”

"Let none in my sight continue to live, lest their impurity displease me." The Word is clear on this, friends. Humans are the hands of the Reapers, here to commit the galaxy to ruin!

"Bring unto me the children, that I may watch them grow to soldiers for the cause." The way is clear, my friends. Draw your weapons for the Word, or face its terrible wrath!”

The end times will come, not with a bang, but with a sigh. Those who
dip their extremities in the well of sin and vice must repent with
fire, oil, and gun
! Let not fleshly friendships and base urges compel us
to sin and neglect.
The Word makes its demands, and it demands
obedience!”

"And on this great station, the pure shall be rejected, and the
lesser races given their places in heaven.
And this shall be the
beginning of the end."
The end times are upon us! Repent and restore your souls to glory!”


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Mind = BLOWN

Seriously, what the ****!

Why haven't I played ME2 since ME3 came out?

The pure shall be rejected? You mean like, the ones who stay true to their beliefs, the ones who refuse indoctrination?

The lesser races given their places in heaven?

You mean like ascension, as in synthesis?

Holy guacamole!  :blink:

Cue epic video of the decision chamber / breath scene with the Batarian preacher reciting the prophecy... :o

Modifié par DoomsdayDevice, 17 octobre 2012 - 11:19 .


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demersel wrote...

Illium is a classic garden world, an entrepot between the Terminus Systems and the Asari Republics. To abet this trade, the normally stringent custom laws of Citadel space on product safety, proscribed materials, and sapient trafficking are relaxed. This world is hot and massive; ground settlement is only possible at the higher polar latitudes. In more equatorial locations, the population is housed in arcology skyscrapers to escape the heat of the surface.
Reaper forces met a surprising amount of resistance at Illium. Its leaders were paranoid about keeping their fortunes, and were influential in both Terminus and Citadel space. They acquired a large defense fleet and a high number of fission weapons, and in the brief space battle, used them on the Reaper fleet's troop transports rather their near-impervious capital ships. As a result, the inevitable ground invasion has been slowed to a crawl as the Reapers manufacture more troops.

Fission weapons on Illium. A second Tuchanka is about to appear in the Galaxy.

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plfranke wrote...

Your in game evidence for IT is solid, but outside of the game evidence is overwhelmingly against IT.


This just in: Opinions are not facts.

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paxxton wrote...

demersel wrote...

Illium is a classic garden world, an entrepot between the Terminus Systems and the Asari Republics. To abet this trade, the normally stringent custom laws of Citadel space on product safety, proscribed materials, and sapient trafficking are relaxed. This world is hot and massive; ground settlement is only possible at the higher polar latitudes. In more equatorial locations, the population is housed in arcology skyscrapers to escape the heat of the surface.
Reaper forces met a surprising amount of resistance at Illium. Its leaders were paranoid about keeping their fortunes, and were influential in both Terminus and Citadel space. They acquired a large defense fleet and a high number of fission weapons, and in the brief space battle, used them on the Reaper fleet's troop transports rather their near-impervious capital ships. As a result, the inevitable ground invasion has been slowed to a crawl as the Reapers manufacture more troops.

Fission weapons on Illium. A second Tuchanka is about to appear in the Galaxy.


Hmmm.... :innocent: So what's up Paxxton? What happened to your custom avatar? :huh:

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BatmanTurian wrote...

plfranke wrote...

Your in game evidence for IT is solid, but outside of the game evidence is overwhelmingly against IT.


This just in: Opinions are not facts.


No way!?!?! ;) I never knew that. :P

EDIT - Gotta go... :?

Modifié par TJBartlemus, 17 octobre 2012 - 11:28 .


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plfranke wrote...

Your in game evidence for IT is solid, but outside of the game evidence is overwhelmingly against IT.

Outside game evidence indicates they want some people to take it at face value, some people to see what they did there, and they want these people to discuss it in circles until the end of time...
They want to indoctrinate and divide the audience...

In other words "Theories about all things" and "Lots of Speculation from everybody"

Modifié par Bill Casey, 17 octobre 2012 - 11:32 .


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TJBartlemus wrote...

BatmanTurian wrote...

plfranke wrote...

Your in game evidence for IT is solid, but outside of the game evidence is overwhelmingly against IT.


This just in: Opinions are not facts.


No way!?!?! ;) I never knew that. :P


I know. It seems to be a hard concept for some people to grasp sometimes. I just like to post a Ric Romero reminder.

Modifié par BatmanTurian, 17 octobre 2012 - 11:33 .


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Restrider wrote...

Strange how there are always some random eruptions of trolls/lit(t)eralists in the IT polls and they all try to reason against the theory in such ridiculous ways. I can get it, when people lose hope and are disappointed, but stating that the lit(t)eral endings are more consistent and logical than IT without at least trying to back these statements up with something is just an insult to anyone who has put some thought into the ME series and the ending(s) of ME 3.
And they are all so predictable (insider joke for spotless).


Anyway, it seems to me these little trolls read our thread, then jump into your polls to harass us because they think they will be safe from moderators in the comments section of your polls ( unless I'm wrong and you're posting a new thread every time you make a new poll). I think we should call this to the mods' attention. I've reported posts but I don't know if anything has come of it.

Modifié par BatmanTurian, 17 octobre 2012 - 11:35 .


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ZerebusPrime wrote...

Something just hit me. A recent conversation in multiplayer with a BioWare employee revealed that a lot of people simply don't grab the DLC's, not even the free ones.

...............there are people out there who are playing ME3 without the Extended Cut.


If i could play Mass Effect without the extended cut - i would - sadly i was t oeager to see what it is, and 'purchased" it - which tied it to my account forerver, without any option to disable it. 

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Bill Casey wrote...

plfranke wrote...

Your in game evidence for IT is solid, but outside of the game evidence is overwhelmingly against IT.

Outside game evidence indicates they want some people to take it at face value, some people to see what they did there, and they want these people to discuss it in circles until the end of time...

In other words "Theories about all things" and "Lots of Speculation from everybody"

Outside game evidence such as the community managers, Gamble, and I believe Mac Walters (but I could be wrong) saying that there is no more ending content coming, does not great IT evidence make. There are certain statements that could be taken as cryptic, but it's a tough sale, especially to hardened literalists.

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plfranke wrote...

Bill Casey wrote...

plfranke wrote...

Your in game evidence for IT is solid, but outside of the game evidence is overwhelmingly against IT.

Outside game evidence indicates they want some people to take it at face value, some people to see what they did there, and they want these people to discuss it in circles until the end of time...

In other words "Theories about all things" and "Lots of Speculation from everybody"

Outside game evidence such as the community managers, Gamble, and I believe Mac Walters (but I could be wrong) saying that there is no more ending content coming, does not great IT evidence make. There are certain statements that could be taken as cryptic, but it's a tough sale, especially to hardened literalists.


" The end is the ending"

The ending has been changed twice now by a free and then a paid DLC. Bioware are notorious spinners and liars. We all know that by now. Your argument is invalid.

Modifié par BatmanTurian, 17 octobre 2012 - 11:37 .


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IT doesn't need more ending content to be correct or intended...

Modifié par Bill Casey, 17 octobre 2012 - 11:38 .


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BatmanTurian wrote...

plfranke wrote...

Bill Casey wrote...

plfranke wrote...

Your in game evidence for IT is solid, but outside of the game evidence is overwhelmingly against IT.

Outside game evidence indicates they want some people to take it at face value, some people to see what they did there, and they want these people to discuss it in circles until the end of time...

In other words "Theories about all things" and "Lots of Speculation from everybody"

Outside game evidence such as the community managers, Gamble, and I believe Mac Walters (but I could be wrong) saying that there is no more ending content coming, does not great IT evidence make. There are certain statements that could be taken as cryptic, but it's a tough sale, especially to hardened literalists.


" The end is the ending"

The ending has been changed twice now by a free and then a paid DLC. Your argument is invalid.

the paid dlc added  2 lines with the catalyst. The other ending "change" you're referring to expanded on the literal interperetation of the ending, but did nothing for IT. Bioware's stance on this is that the extended cut represents the conclusion to the story. Any additions to this won't change the core of it.

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Bill Casey wrote...

IT doesn't need more ending content to be correct or intended...


IT is the ending. Even if we never get anything past the breath scene, there's enough there to spin the gears in any open-minded, intelligent person's head.

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Bill Casey wrote...

IT doesn't need more ending content to be correct or intended...

"We'll let the content speak for itself".

It is definitely speaking...

Edit: Just Guess.

Modifié par 401 Kill, 17 octobre 2012 - 11:40 .