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[MegumiAzusa]

NebuchadnezzaRT wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

Wait Meg you said that thing was trying to overide EDI? Synthesis anyone. EDI is not her self, and nor is anybody.

No, listen. Overlord, David, was trying to upload itself off world. After destroying the satelite dishes you denied it/him access to comm buouys. The Normandy was the nearest transmitting source capable of taking in the VI hybrid. Thus, at the end of the Overlord DLC you have to stop the VI from uploading to the Normandy (The station PA speakers explain this during the fight.)

I could just never understand how David/VI managed to control you like that. I mean by "uploading" you into that virtual world.

Did he manage to take control of the VI for just an instance? Allowing himself to be saved by you?

Why didn't the VI just disable all the doors and stuff? Why lock your squadmates in that room but let you escape?

Maybe it has something to do with your cibernetic implants?

My guess is that this was the organic side struggling. You also have these shoutouts "PLEASE, MAKE IT STOP" but still the Geth are attacking you. Also the Geth you fight seem to be just virtual representations of the forming conciousness, same as with the upload which is also just a representation.

Also I like the similarity of the bubble/data node around David to the data nodes in the Geth mission, and the bubble Legion is in in the Dreadnaught mission.

[MegumiAzusa]

NebuchadnezzaRT wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

Wait Meg you said that thing was trying to overide EDI? Synthesis anyone. EDI is not her self, and nor is anybody.

high ems: The door opens, Shepard has hope and sees her friends get out (that is also why the LI is always the first to get out)

I thought Joker always got out first? (I haven't done the endings for a long while, and have only done 1 EC playthrough)

Ok, the first variable after Joker. But that doesn't change much of the point I was making, does it?

[NebuchadnezzaRT]

Overlord had a lot of connecting context in ME3!

Yea, the delivery of music and dialogue during Overlord tops LotSB for best ME2 dlc for me haha

[masster blaster]

Wait why wasn't David seen in Grimssion Academy? Didn't we could send him to the academy? He should be there, but is he? I never played Overlord to be honest.

[NebuchadnezzaRT]

MegumiAzusa wrote...

NebuchadnezzaRT wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

Wait Meg you said that thing was trying to overide EDI? Synthesis anyone. EDI is not her self, and nor is anybody.

high ems: The door opens, Shepard has hope and sees her friends get out (that is also why the LI is always the first to get out)

I thought Joker always got out first? (I haven't done the endings for a long while, and have only done 1 EC playthrough)

Ok, the first variable after Joker. But that doesn't change much of the point I was making, does it?

No, I gotcha. I wasn't trying to dissprove you. I just had trouble remembering 

[NebuchadnezzaRT]

masster blaster wrote...

Wait why wasn't David seen in Grimssion Academy? Didn't we could send him to the academy? He should be there, but is he? I never played Overlord to be honest.

see top post MB

[MegumiAzusa]

NebuchadnezzaRT wrote...

Exactly! Overlord has been my main argument against Control and Synthesis endings!

Hmm, small wonder, if you free David he lets you into the armory at Grissom Academy. "Lots of guns"

Which ending do you use a gun?

I know, I know, I really pulled that one outta nowhere but there isn't much else to talk about...

That was actually a reference to the first Matrix, which is ironically also something we see on the sheet for the ending

[Raistlin Majare 1992]

masster blaster wrote...

Wait why wasn't David seen in Grimssion Academy? Didn't we could send him to the academy? He should be there, but is he? I never played Overlord to be honest.

He is in Grissom Academy if you played Overlord (and sent him to the academy obviusly, but who dsoent?) and he unlocks a armory containing a few upgrades.

Though that is minor compared to the small conversation with him. He clearly is feeling much better and says:

"I have been counting" - David
"Anything in paticular?" - Shepard
"The number of days you lengthened my life" - David.

It is a sweet line. He also appologizes to EDI for trying to hack her if you have her with you.

Modifié par Raistlin Majare 1992, 18 octobre 2012 - 07:09 .

[masster blaster]

Okay Neb thanks. Meg ya "lot's of guns." Is from the first Matrix. I see what Bioware did there. Bioware:" We took what we wanted from them made it our own. This isn't about me our you."

[NebuchadnezzaRT]

MegumiAzusa wrote...

NebuchadnezzaRT wrote...

Exactly! Overlord has been my main argument against Control and Synthesis endings!

Hmm, small wonder, if you free David he lets you into the armory at Grissom Academy. "Lots of guns"

Which ending do you use a gun?

I know, I know, I really pulled that one outta nowhere but there isn't much else to talk about...

That was actually a reference to the first Matrix, which is ironically also something we see on the sheet for the ending

Ha! I see that reference now! 

I wonder if David knows kung-fu also..

[MegumiAzusa]

Raistlin Majare 1992 wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

Wait why wasn't David seen in Grimssion Academy? Didn't we could send him to the academy? He should be there, but is he? I never played Overlord to be honest.

He is in Grissom Academy if you played Overlord (and sent him to the academy obviusly, but who dsoent?) and he unlocks a armory containing a few upgrades.

Though that is minor compared to the small conversation with him. He clearly is feeling much better and says:

"I have been counting" - David
"Anything in paticular?" - Shepard
"The number of days you lengthened your life" - David.

It is a sweet line. He also appologizes to EDI for trying to hack her if you have her with you.

Tears crawled into my eyes at that scene just because of the music

[Dwailing]

NebuchadnezzaRT wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

NebuchadnezzaRT wrote...

Exactly! Overlord has been my main argument against Control and Synthesis endings!

Hmm, small wonder, if you free David he lets you into the armory at Grissom Academy. "Lots of guns"

Which ending do you use a gun?

I know, I know, I really pulled that one outta nowhere but there isn't much else to talk about...

That was actually a reference to the first Matrix, which is ironically also something we see on the sheet for the ending

Ha! I see that reference now! 

I wonder if David knows kung-fu also..

Man, that reminds me of just how much I wanted the fight with Kai Leng to be some kind of awesome hand to hand fight between him and Shepard.  Why BioWare?  Whhhhhhyyyyyyy!!!!????

[NebuchadnezzaRT]

SwobyJ wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

LazyTechGuy wrote...

TSA_383 wrote...

FifthBeatle wrote...

Also, question for everyone: if the scene with Shepard, Anderson, and TIM is all in Shepard's head, where do you guys think the real TIM is?

Omega?
Certainly his motivations for taking the place need to be made more clear...

Oh man, I know it's not really a possibility, but how fantastic would it have been if Omega was post-ending (like Arrival) and TIM, presumed KIA of course, walked out at some point during Omega?  That'd be quite a teaser, either for ME3 or the future game.

What did Martin Sheen always say while laughing at us? "I'm not done yet."

I always consider that.

I mean, he could just mean "I'm not done in Mass Effect after Mass Effect 2, so you'll see me in ME3." but I'm not 100% sure.

 I'm 100% sure he meant Mass Effect 3 haha

Still love Martin Sheen! <3

[Raistlin Majare 1992]

MegumiAzusa wrote...

Raistlin Majare 1992 wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

Wait why wasn't David seen in Grimssion Academy? Didn't we could send him to the academy? He should be there, but is he? I never played Overlord to be honest.

He is in Grissom Academy if you played Overlord (and sent him to the academy obviusly, but who dsoent?) and he unlocks a armory containing a few upgrades.

Though that is minor compared to the small conversation with him. He clearly is feeling much better and says:

"I have been counting" - David
"Anything in paticular?" - Shepard
"The number of days you lengthened your life" - David.

It is a sweet line. He also appologizes to EDI for trying to hack her if you have her with you.

Tears crawled into my eyes at that scene just because of the music

ME3 had lots of tear inducing moments...Mordin is still the one which touched me the deepest, the scene, the music, him singing "Scientist Salarian" as he works and the knowledge of what you have accomplished in that moment made me cry deeply

Off course his sacrifice is entirely pointless if you pick Synthesis <_<

[masster blaster]

Wel there are dlc to be made, so Martin Sheen itsn't done yet.

[DeathWingKingUltimate]

Sorry guys out of the place question but i want to know did Bioware told us why Shepared can't be indoctrinated? because i remember in the arrival he knocked off by object Rho and spend complete 2 days in the influence of Harbinger. So why he suddenly woke up? any explanation?

[NebuchadnezzaRT]

Dwailing wrote...

Man, that reminds me of just how much I wanted the fight with Kai Leng to be some kind of awesome hand to hand fight between him and Shepard.  Why BioWare?  Whhhhhhyyyyyyy!!!!????

Haha I don't think Marine hand-to-hand would have been a match for Kai Leng's... whatever he had. Besides it probably would have turned into an "omni-blade vs. wakizashi" fight.

Adding a scene that combined forcing the omniblade down my throat, the addition of swords into the far future, and Deception Kai Leng probably would have made me sell ME3 before I watched AngryJoe which led me here

[NebuchadnezzaRT]

DeathWingKingUltimate wrote...

Sorry guys out of the place question but i want to know did Bioware told us why Shepared can't be indoctrinated? because i remember in the arrival he knocked off by object Rho and spend complete 2 days in the influence of Harbinger. So why he suddenly woke up? any explanation?

I don't remember Bioware saying that.

(Take note I'm not attacking you ) In fact I remember Bioware saying quite the opposite- That IT is just a valid interpretation of the endings as any other. More so than some, actually.

And, DWKU, this whole thread is devoted to an explanation of what happened during Arrival!
If you prefer visual media, in my opinion, Prettz Zell (youtube username) has made an IT video that really goes into Arrival and more!

Modifié par NebuchadnezzaRT, 18 octobre 2012 - 07:18 .

[NebuchadnezzaRT]

masster blaster wrote...

Wel there are dlc to be made, so Martin Sheen itsn't done yet.

He was quoted saying that after ME2 came out. Or before ME3 came out. I forget.

[Raistlin Majare 1992]

NebuchadnezzaRT wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

Man, that reminds me of just how much I wanted the fight with Kai Leng to be some kind of awesome hand to hand fight between him and Shepard.  Why BioWare?  Whhhhhhyyyyyyy!!!!????

Haha I don't think Marine hand-to-hand would have been a match for Kai Leng's... whatever he had. Besides it probably would have turned into an "omni-blade vs. wakizashi" fight.

Adding a scene that combined forcing the omniblade down my throat, the addition of swords into the far future, and Deception Kai Leng probably would have made me sell ME3 before I watched AngryJoe which led me here

To be honest with the strength enhancements Shepard has gotten (going toe to toe with a Yagh anyone) I think a fist fight with Kai Leng would have been a pretty short afair.

Modifié par Raistlin Majare 1992, 18 octobre 2012 - 07:17 .

[Raistlin Majare 1992]

DeathWingKingUltimate wrote...

Sorry guys out of the place question but i want to know did Bioware told us why Shepared can't be indoctrinated? because i remember in the arrival he knocked off by object Rho and spend complete 2 days in the influence of Harbinger. So why he suddenly woke up? any explanation?

I dont think Bioware has ever said Shepard could not be Indoctrinated and really there is no reason he shouldnt.

As for why he woke up it might be his implants. He has alot of Synthetic parts and it might have done so that a sedative dose which could normally keep a human asleep only knocks Shepard out temporarily. Just a guess though.

[DeathWingKingUltimate]

NebuchadnezzaRT wrote...

DeathWingKingUltimate wrote...

Sorry guys out of the place question but i want to know did Bioware told us why Shepared can't be indoctrinated? because i remember in the arrival he knocked off by object Rho and spend complete 2 days in the influence of Harbinger. So why he suddenly woke up? any explanation?

I don't remember Bioware saying that.

(Take note I'm not attacking you ) In fact I remember Bioware saying quite the opposite- That IT is just a valid interpretation of the endings as any other. More so than some, actually.

Well my bad, what i meant was probably if Bioware never told us that shepard is indoct proof then he was already in indoctrination process because he should have indoctrinated like everyone else at the base, hiting by Object Rho pulse and spending 2 days under Object Rho's influence is no joke.