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Was the Ending a Hallucination? - Indoctrination Theory Mark III!


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byne wrote...

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byne wrote...

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Knock-knock.


York who?

Your catch!


Jolly good old chap. :D

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estebanus wrote...

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@TSA_383 Seriously? You sure maybe it was just the quality of the picture I mean why would they show something that spoilerific?


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Decide for yourself :lol:

Wow I really don't know what to say about that maybe it's just the quality of the screenshot or maybe you have an option of blowing up Omega but honestly who would wanna do that? Omega is Awesome!

I am still of the opinion that the very bright thing you're seeing there must either be the galactic core, or the system's sun. Also, the Normandy is clearly flying towards Omega, not away from it. Now why would a ship fly towards an exploding space station?

Hmm. I'm not seeing exactly how the Normandy is facing here. Where is the front?

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BansheeOwnage wrote...

I don't know. Remember the asteroid in Arrival? It was much smaller than the Citadel and it wasn't trasnported. (Yes, I know size has nothing to do with mass.) Though, that is probably because the asteroid didn't calculate its mass right. Posted Image

TOP! :D


The Asteroid was being slammed into the relay...
I supposed the relay could have opened a mass free corridor so the asteroid slammed into the relay faster...

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Something I've been pondering the last couple days. They said Shepard was implanted with cybernetics, but is it possible that it could be Reaper tech? They didn't exactly say what those cybernetics were. For example, they said EDI was partially made from parts of Sovereign if I recall. So is it possible for Shepard to have Reaper tech in him as well?

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I think the Prothean VI would detect reaper tech...
Sticking reaper crap in your face is usually the last stage of indoctrination...

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Oh right, like rapid indoctrination (eg. husks). How silly of me.

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Bill Casey wrote...

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I don't know. Remember the asteroid in Arrival? It was much smaller than the Citadel and it wasn't trasnported. (Yes, I know size has nothing to do with mass.) Though, that is probably because the asteroid didn't calculate its mass right. Posted Image

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The Asteroid was being slammed into the relay...
I supposed the relay could have opened a mass free corridor so the asteroid slammed into the relay faster...

No dude I think the relay was using Throw.

In all seriousness though, does the direction of the relay's user affect anything? Does a ship have to be travelling parallel to the relay?

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" I never worked with so many black boxes Shepard." What was in them I don't know.

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BansheeOwnage wrote...

I don't know. Remember the asteroid in Arrival? It was much smaller than the Citadel and it wasn't trasnported. (Yes, I know size has nothing to do with mass.) Though, that is probably because the asteroid didn't calculate its mass right. Posted Image

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Who says it was smaller? You know, those relays are not that small. Normandy is really tiny comapred to them. And that asteroid was much bigger than a relay. If anything they are comparable. 

The citadel:
Total Length (Open):[/b] 44.7km
Diameter (Open):[/b] 12.8km
Population:[/b] 13.2 million 
Gross Weight:[/b] 7.11 billion metric tons
Asteroid really looks like he can be of the same size or even bigger. 

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Oh and um did any of you get/found the Batarian govenor? I found him, and he is funny as hell. Blamed the humans, but when Reapers came he called forth his brothers and sisters of the galaxy. 5he councile races/ everyone including the humans.

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BansheeOwnage wrote...

In all seriousness though, does the direction of the relay's user affect anything? Does a ship have to be travelling parallel to the relay?

From what I've seen, this is the case...
You punch in your relay destination, the amount of mass you want to transit, and it opens up a mass free corridor that you fly through...

Modifié par Bill Casey, 19 octobre 2012 - 04:51 .


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 Also - some interesting things i found in Arrival's description - - When you ask about the logistics of the project, i.e. crashing an asteroid into a Mass Relay, Kenson will say that it isn’t that hard as the parts are already available in Omega’s salvage yards. All it needs is thrust and guidance and if you get the right amount of power, and a decent VI to drive it, then all you really have to do is point and shoot.-  If Shepard asks how she was arrested, Kenson will say that they have been smuggling starship parts from Omega. Apparently guidance systems, thrusters, and an aftermarket Eezo core are labeled by the batarians as suspicious. Kenson will finish by saying that a few days ago, she took a few of the men on a scouting mission, and the batarians then pounced on them, but they didn’t find the actual base.

So... It is as i said - the war can be won just throuwing asteroids at reapers and the relays! And the equipment to make this possible is aplenty at Omega! 
Moreover all those thing specifically were labeled suspicious by batarian government (which we know to be under reaper control by this point!)  
I knew it was important! We take back omega - and we've got ourselves a start at making an arsenal of projectile asteroids to kill all the reapers!! Omega can taw them in and install all the needed equipment! EDI is much better than some VI, but even Shepard VI would do as a targeting system! And the crucible could be used as a great power source! - here - they ultimate weapon to kill all the reapers! 

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demersel wrote...

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I don't know. Remember the asteroid in Arrival? It was much smaller than the Citadel and it wasn't trasnported. (Yes, I know size has nothing to do with mass.) Though, that is probably because the asteroid didn't calculate its mass right. Posted Image

TOP! :D


Who says it was smaller? You know, those relays are not that small. Normandy is really tiny comapred to them. And that asteroid was much bigger than a relay. If anything they are comparable. 

The citadel:
Total Length (Open):[/b] 44.7km
Diameter (Open):[/b] 12.8km
Population:[/b] 13.2 million 
Gross Weight:[/b] 7.11 billion metric tons
Asteroid really looks like he can be of the same size or even bigger. 



Yeah, I don't know, I'm working off of a mental image of the asteroid, so...

But here is a comparison screenshot for the relay.
http://1.bp.blogspot...20-09-53-55.bmp

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Fill those asteroids with geth and suicide troops, like batarians - to board the damaged reapers and kill their hearts from with in, like we did it with the derelict reaper - and we've got ourselves a victory right there. (geth when the platform is destroyd can upload into a new one. Batarinas will probably volonteer anyway)

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BansheeOwnage wrote...

Yeah, I don't know, I'm working off of a mental image of the asteroid, so...

But here is a comparison screenshot for the relay.
http://1.bp.blogspot...20-09-53-55.bmp


Those are from a dream - they do not count as actual size comparement. ))

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I want to throw some asteroids at reapers! I want to wage some shock and awe terror warfare!

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Fill those asteroids with geth and suicide troops, like batarians - to board the damaged reapers and kill their hearts from with in, like we did it with the derelict reaper - and we've got ourselves a victory right there. (geth when the platform is destroyd can upload into a new one. Batarinas will probably volonteer anyway)

I would think Turians would be more likely to volunteer considering that's exactly what they did on Palaven. Though, it's kind of unfair to generalize a species like that. I'm sure many from all species would, and many wouldn't.

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BansheeOwnage wrote...

Yeah, I don't know, I'm working off of a mental image of the asteroid, so...

But here is a comparison screenshot for the relay.
http://1.bp.blogspot...20-09-53-55.bmp


That evil picture lol

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BansheeOwnage wrote...

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Fill those asteroids with geth and suicide troops, like batarians - to board the damaged reapers and kill their hearts from with in, like we did it with the derelict reaper - and we've got ourselves a victory right there. (geth when the platform is destroyd can upload into a new one. Batarinas will probably volonteer anyway)

I would think Turians would be more likely to volunteer considering that's exactly what they did on Palaven. Though, it's kind of unfair to generalize a species like that. I'm sure many from all species would, and many wouldn't


I'm just saying that geth are perfect for the mission, since they are immune to indoctrination, and they don't really care if the platform is destroyed.  Of course any one could be volunteer - but if geth are around - it would be unwise - they could compromise the mission by getting indoctrinated, and it is a waste of troops, if the geth are around - if they are not around (all killed by the quarians) - then we'll have to take those chances - but batarians would be the first - they have no home anymore, and killig an enemy with a suicide squads, by smashing an asteroid into them sounds exactly like the sort of thing they be happy to do. 

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We haven't yet threw an asteroid into something in ME3, and it is kind of a ME tradition! I want it! I want ot throw an asteroid at the citadel! (face it, if we get rid of the reapers, the citadel and the mass relays will have to go. )

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demersel wrote...

We haven't yet threw an asteroid into something in ME3, and it is kind of a ME tradition! I want it! I want ot throw an asteroid at the citadel! (face it, if we get rid of the reapers, the citadel and the mass relays will have to go. )

Not really. The reapers would be dead. Who cares at that point?

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BansheeOwnage wrote...

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We haven't yet threw an asteroid into something in ME3, and it is kind of a ME tradition! I want it! I want ot throw an asteroid at the citadel! (face it, if we get rid of the reapers, the citadel and the mass relays will have to go. )

Not really. The reapers would be dead. Who cares at that point?


Sadly, the Reapers, are not the giant cuttlefish spaceships. The reapers are an idea. And while the technology that suggests that idea exist - they exist. 

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demersel wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

demersel wrote...

We haven't yet threw an asteroid into something in ME3, and it is kind of a ME tradition! I want it! I want ot throw an asteroid at the citadel! (face it, if we get rid of the reapers, the citadel and the mass relays will have to go. )

Not really. The reapers would be dead. Who cares at that point?


Sadly, the Reapers, are not the giant cuttlefish spaceships. The reapers are an idea. And while the technology that suggests that idea exist - they exist. 

It is unknown whether you could be indoctrinated if the reapers no longer existed. My guess (and headcanon) is no. You can't convince someone to follow a doctine that doesn't exist. Indoctrination works by convincing you to become passive towards the reapers.

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It is unknown whether you could be indoctrinated if the reapers no longer existed. My guess (and headcanon) is no. You can't convince someone to follow a doctine that doesn't exist. Indoctrination works by convincing you to become passive towards the reapers.


No. Remember - reapers were once born out of idea that indoctrinated individuals got - once there was enough of them - they've build the first reaper out of the leviathans. 

Indoctrination = thouht patterns/data packages
Organic mind = blue box

Inoctrination + organic mind = AI. (read the codex entry about AI)

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Does anyone know a video that has Hackett explaining to Shepard just before TIM's base that TIM is insane? It's really hard to find. :/

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