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Was the Ending a Hallucination? - Indoctrination Theory Mark III!


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I'm disappointed in both of you...

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BansheeOwnage wrote...

Bill Casey wrote...

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It's so obvious now... I can't believe people think this is baseless...

What is baseless is DLC where Shepard gets up and finishes the fight and blah blah blah...

And here we disagree. I don't care if it's indoctrination and all of the awesome things included with that if this is how it ends. Posted Image

I'm with the literalists if this is how it ends...     Posted Image


Is this the end, or is it starting?
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Bill Casey wrote...

I'm disappointed in both of you...

So be it. Posted Image

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The truth comes to those who seek IT 

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Destroy is the RIGHT choice. ))))

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It may not impress you Bill, but to be honest if I knew for sure there would be no change made to the end - no sequel or DLC or anything - I would not be here. I would most likely abandon my favourite series and have a scar on my personality and life for everything it caused me. I would be perpetually bitter over what it became.And I sure as hell would not be alone.  But what keeps me here?

Hope.

This series has taught me many things, and its themes are important in real life. Without hope...

Modifié par BansheeOwnage, 19 octobre 2012 - 07:28 .


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I just said "makes more sense" not absolutely guaranteed. I don't expect their to be any continuation despite how stupid that would be.

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demersel wrote...

Destroy is the RIGHT choice. ))))

Quite literally.

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The truth comes to those who seek IT 

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BansheeOwnage wrote...

demersel wrote...

Destroy is the RIGHT choice. ))))

Quite literally.


You can't argue with that. If you argue with it you're just retarded. :devil:

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It should go something like this: - "Yo dawg, I heard you liked being literal... Destroy is literaly the right choice - why do you argue against that? Are you retatred? Can't you take things literaly? I thought you like your things literal."

RavenEyry - fixed. 

Modifié par demersel, 19 octobre 2012 - 07:42 .


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demersel wrote...

It should go something like this: - "Hey literalists! I heard you like all the things literal. Destroy is literaly the right choice - why do you argue against that? Are you retatred? Can't you take things literaly? I thought you like your things literal."

Yo dawg, I heard you liked being literal...

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Those, who pick control - tools.
Those, who pick synthesis have a mistake in their DNA
Those, who pick refuse are in denial.
Destroy is the RIGHT choice. ))

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RavenEyry wrote...

demersel wrote...

It should go something like this: - "Hey literalists! I heard you like all the things literal. Destroy is literaly the right choice - why do you argue against that? Are you retatred? Can't you take things literaly? I thought you like your things literal."

Yo dawg, I heard you liked being literal...

That's great! It's like how the literal interpretation is wrong, because certain elements are supposed to be taken non-literally.

Or how the literal version is wrong, because speculations were intended for the ending. Literal has no speculations, obviously.

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BansheeOwnage wrote...

RavenEyry wrote...

demersel wrote...

It should go something like this: - "Hey literalists! I heard you like all the things literal. Destroy is literaly the right choice - why do you argue against that? Are you retatred? Can't you take things literaly? I thought you like your things literal."

Yo dawg, I heard you liked being literal...

That's great! It's like how the literal interpretation is wrong, because certain elements are supposed to be taken non-literally.

Or how the literal version is wrong, because speculations were intended for the ending. Literal has no speculations, obviously.


The things is - even those, who take the endings literaly, and make the literal right choice - destroy (100% literalist) - those people have absolutely NO PROBLEM with the IT. For those people: endings literal? - Great!. Reapers are dead. GG everyone.  Ending is a hallucination? - Great! More awesome Mass Effect! 

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Ending is a hallucination? - Great! More awesome Mass Effect!

Again with the baseless assumption that the ending being an open ended confrontation of the thematic material automatically means there's more to come or a big reveal...

Goddamn it...

Modifié par Bill Casey, 19 octobre 2012 - 07:54 .


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Bill Casey wrote...

Ending is a hallucination? - Great! More awesome Mass Effect!

Again with the baseless assumption that the ending being an open ended confrontation of the thematic material automatically means there's more to come...

Goddamn it...


I feel a lot of frustration with you.  It doesn't mean that there is more to come. Where do you get such an idea? 

The assumtion that there is more Awesome Mass Effect to come is not baseless and not really an assumtion. And it really has nothing to do with the ending being IT or literal. 

I'm so dissapointed in you, Bill Casey. :D

Modifié par demersel, 19 octobre 2012 - 07:57 .


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Ending is a hallucination? - Great! More awesome Mass Effect!

Again with the baseless assumption that the ending being an open ended confrontation of the thematic material automatically means there's more to come or a big reveal...

Goddamn it...

You seem quite annoyed that we are not satisfied with what we have here. Why?

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Bill Casey wrote...

Ending is a hallucination? - Great! More awesome Mass Effect!

Again with the baseless assumption that the ending being an open ended confrontation of the thematic material automatically means there's more to come or a big reveal...

Goddamn it...

Beating the thematic material is really good and philosiphical and such, but it doesn't change that there are reapers whizzing around killing everyone still.

I think it's a really good cliffhanger, but it's still not an ending.

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I'm frustrated because I feel like I'm the only person in the world who both gets and likes the ending the way it is...

It's like people don't appreciate an ending that forces them to figure out what it means on their own...
One that indoctrinates and divides the audience to argue in circles about it until the end of time...

Modifié par Bill Casey, 19 octobre 2012 - 08:01 .


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RavenEyry wrote...

 but it's still not an ending.

It IS an ending...
GAH...

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Bill Casey wrote...

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 but it's still not an ending.

It IS an ending...
GAH...

No it isn't the full plot has yet to be resolved.

I'm frustrated because I feel like I'm the only person in the world who both gets and likes the ending the way it is...

I get and like the ending. I just refuse to be satisfied by the minor hanging plot thread of all intelligent life currently being wiped out.

Modifié par RavenEyry, 19 octobre 2012 - 08:05 .


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I really don't like to argue with the others (non-IT or people who wanted the ending changed), but it seems like no matter what I say, I can't seem to convince people that they're missing out on a really great ending.

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RavenEyry wrote...

No it isn't the full plot has yet to be resolved.

That's what an open ending is...

www.vcu.edu/arts/playwriting/openending.html

Modifié par Bill Casey, 19 octobre 2012 - 08:06 .


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Bill Casey wrote...

I'm frustrated because I feel like I'm the only person in the world who both gets and likes the ending the way it is...

It's like people don't appreciate an ending that forces them to figure out what it means on their own...
One that indoctrinates and divides the audience to argue in circles about it until the end of time...

Calm down there Casey (Hudson). Everyone has different priorities. The number 1 priority for me in Mass Effect, as with countless others, is the characters. This "ending" of yours, does no justice to them, and therefore, it does not satisfy me in the least. Now, I've always been an intellecual person. I love things that make me think. But I get enough of that in "real life". I play video games or watch movies for a good story, and one with proper closure, because "real life" is lacking in good things. Mass Effect's best thing for me has always been its characters...

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