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[Ithurael]

leonia42 wrote...

Not sure how this is news, they said a LONG time ago that this is the end of the Shepard trilogy. Pretty sure that means no more Shepard. Could mean anything for IT though.

They said it would be the end of shepard and the current story arch.

one article stated they may be looking at a prequel
www.oxm.co.uk/46781/bioware-mass-effect-4-wont-feature-shepard-may-not-follow-mass-effect-3/

10 to 1 everything is speculations until the game is released (or at the very least announced) but bioware is very clear on one thing: no moar shepard:crying:

IDK, i am happy and sad at that thought

[masster blaster]

I don't really know what to believe to be honest. They said no abc endings, but we got abc endings, and now d ending. They said no Reaper off swith, but we got Destroy off switch. So I don't know if they will be no Shepard, or Shepard at all in ME4. They were also very clear that we wouldn't get ABC endings. Yet we did.

Also if Bioware leaves the ending like this, then I don't want to play no more ME games. What is the possibility they will do this again. I would actually just give up on Bioware because I would get too invested in the story, and characters, so if they leave the next ending for interpitation, then I am done period.

[Ithurael]

masster blaster wrote...

I don't really know what to believe to be honest. They said no abc endings, but we got abc endings, and now d ending. They said no Reaper off swith, but we got Destroy off switch. So I don't know if they will be no Shepard, or Shepard at all in ME4. They were also very clear that we wouldn't get ABC endings. Yet we did.

Also if Bioware leaves the ending like this, then I don't want to play no more ME games. What is the possibility they will do this again. I would actually just give up on Bioware because I would get too invested in the story, and characters, so if they leave the next ending for interpitation, then I am done period.

A part of me thinks that they may have learned to not over-hype their products and be more honest to fans. These days I think that the statements bioware makes post ME3 sh*t-storm are more genuine (slightly)

[MegumiAzusa]

It is interesting how people jump from

The hero [...] will not resemble Commander Shepard

to

There will be no Commander Shepard

[masster blaster]

So the hero will not resemble commander Shepard because he is commander Shepard get it.

[Ithurael]

MegumiAzusa wrote...

It is interesting how people jump from

The hero [...] will not resemble Commander Shepard

to

There will be no Commander Shepard

This does say there is no more shepard.

www.vg247.com/2012/10/19/mass-effect-4-star-we-dont-want-shepard-2-bioware/

“There is one thing we are absolutely sure of – there will be no more Shepard, and the trilogy is over.”

Modifié par Ithurael, 19 octobre 2012 - 01:25 .

[paxxton]

The new hero won't resemble Cmdr. Shepard cause Shepard will undergo plastic surgery once again.

[MegumiAzusa]

masster blaster wrote...

I don't really know what to believe to be honest. They said no abc endings, but we got abc endings, and now d ending.

So all your decisions you made before don't matter? You tell us having the true Rachni still alive is the same as only having Reaper puppets? Curing the Genophage under Wreav is the same as with Wrex, or not curing it at all?

They said no Reaper off swith, but we got Destroy off switch.

Oh is it? Just look at the title of this thread. Also even if it's real it's no simple off switch, it still has lots of implications.

[MaximizedAction]

paxxton wrote...

Eryri wrote...

demersel wrote...

 "BioWare Montreal producer Fabrice Condominas confirmed to VG247 that Shepard's story is finished, and the captain will not be featured in Mass Effect 4, or whatever the next entry in the series is titled."

Who the hell is he? and bioware montreal is the studio that is making ME multiplayer, so how would he know in the first place? 

And just who is this "Captain Shepard" to whom you refer Gamespot?

Yeah, that one is suspicious. Don't they know Shepard is the Commander?

Sure but, you know, Commander Shepard's storyline will be finished (probably) until March. Everytime someone says that that cheesy 'commander' is made sure of being added. And what is a possible rank after that? Hmmm?

(edit: this is of course meant jokingly.)

Modifié par MaximizedAction, 19 octobre 2012 - 01:28 .

[paxxton]

Captain

[MegumiAzusa]

MaximizedAction wrote...

paxxton wrote...

Eryri wrote...

demersel wrote...

 "BioWare Montreal producer Fabrice Condominas confirmed to VG247 that Shepard's story is finished, and the captain will not be featured in Mass Effect 4, or whatever the next entry in the series is titled."

Who the hell is he? and bioware montreal is the studio that is making ME multiplayer, so how would he know in the first place? 

And just who is this "Captain Shepard" to whom you refer Gamespot?

Yeah, that one is suspicious. Don't they know Shepard is the Commander?

Sure but, you know, Commander Shepard's storyline will be finished (probably) until March. Everytime someone says that that cheesy 'commander' is made sure of being added. And what is a possible rank after that? Hmmm?

(edit: this is of course meant jokingly.)

It always creeps me out when I get called Commander in Dragon Age

[masster blaster]

Okay two thing Commander Shepard has ended, now it's time to play as Admiral Shepard, or the new hero will not resemble Shepard because he is Shepard.

Bioware went from no Shepard to " The new Hero will not resemble Commander Shepard." Okay well ya new Hero shouldn't look like Shepard, unless it's the child of Shepard, or the new hero is Shepard.

[Gwyphon]

I don't know how to feel. We've spent 3 games growing attached to Shep. They're going to have to pull a pretty great character out to draw me in. We are talking about Bioware though, masters of characterization.

[masster blaster]

Meg here is why.

Mordins
Legions, and
Thanes death mean nothing.

Oh lookk at Synthesis it cures the Geno if you didn't cure it, but oh wait that's right Mordin died trying to do the right thing. Pointless didn't have to die.

Oh Legion wanted his people to become true AI's, oh look Synthesis gives them this, and more. His death pointless.

Oh Thane fighting Kai Leng to stop Cerberus. Oh wait in Control they were right after all, why couldn't I join Cerberus during ME3's beginning. Death pointless. Hell alot of deaths are pointless in ME3, and ME1/ME2. I could same more about Destroy, and refuse, but that's if you take things literaly, yet IT I hope is true.

[Ithurael]

masster blaster wrote...

Meg here is why.

Mordins
Legions, and
Thanes death mean nothing.

Oh lookk at Synthesis it cures the Geno if you didn't cure it, but oh wait that's right Mordin died trying to do the right thing. Pointless didn't have to die.

Oh Legion wanted his people to become true AI's, oh look Synthesis gives them this, and more. His death pointless.

Oh Thane fighting Kai Leng to stop Cerberus. Oh wait in Control they were right after all, why couldn't I join Cerberus during ME3's beginning. Death pointless. Hell alot of deaths are pointless in ME3, and ME1/ME2. I could same more about Destroy, and refuse, but that's if you take things literaly, yet IT I hope is true.

As long as IT is true to you what else matters if bioware doesn't implement it into canon?

[Lokanaiya]

Maybe this is just me, but I don't think Shepard should appear as anything other than an Easter egg if we're not controlling him. I can deal with having to move on to a different character, but it would just be weird to regularly see Shepard (especially as a mentor figure) if we don't have any impact on what he does or says.

But maybe this is part of why there's so much autodialogue in ME3.. So we can get used to having less control over Shepard

[MegumiAzusa]

spotlessvoid wrote...

The problem with the ending is it's too vague. Is it all an indoctrination attempt? An overlay on the Citadel? An overlay on Earth? Only some of it a hallucination? Is it literal? Is it literal but the consequences in the slide show false? That is way too much ambiguity.

That's not like Inception/Total Recall/Bladerunner because those are meant to be a choice between two scenarios. The Mass Effect endings are really up for debate on almost everything.

If they never give any answers, it's going to feel like they just threw a little bit of everything in and they don't actually have the scenarios thought out. Which is a total cop out. If the majority of your fan base thinks it's so convoluted that they find it impossible to conceive it has deeper meaning, and the rest can't even fully agree on what that deeper meaning truly is...you've failed at storytelling. This isn't just a work of art, it's also very much a commercial product. A relatively expensive one too.

If the fans defending the deeper meaning ending mostly think additional content is needed, then it's probably needed. The indoctrination/hallucination elements are there, but it's inconclusive exactly what it means and what actually transpires.

The people looking the hardest at everything are fairly uniformly asking for elaboration. That really says a lot

What should BW do to make it less ambiguous while not saying "yep it's that"? I mean just the similarities of "Breathe." and "Wake up." are like slapping in your face but most people don't even want to see it as such.

[Ghrelt]

Lokanaiya wrote...

Maybe this is just me, but I don't think Shepard should appear as anything other than an Easter egg if we're not controlling him. I can deal with having to move on to a different character, but it would just be weird to regularly see Shepard (especially as a mentor figure) if we don't have any impact on what he does or says.

But maybe this is part of why there's so much autodialogue in ME3.. So we can get used to having less control over Shepard

Easter egg, or epic bossfight!

[Restrider]

Ladies and Gentlemen,
I proudly present the results of the last poll. The list has been updated and I would like to encourage you to take part at the new poll and the survey about your choice at your first playthrough.
I would also like to have you spread the word about these polls to anyone who is interested in this topic.

[MegumiAzusa]

masster blaster wrote...

Meg here is why.

Mordins
Legions, and
Thanes death mean nothing.

Oh lookk at Synthesis it cures the Geno if you didn't cure it, but oh wait that's right Mordin died trying to do the right thing. Pointless didn't have to die.

Oh Legion wanted his people to become true AI's, oh look Synthesis gives them this, and more. His death pointless.

Oh Thane fighting Kai Leng to stop Cerberus. Oh wait in Control they were right after all, why couldn't I join Cerberus during ME3's beginning. Death pointless. Hell alot of deaths are pointless in ME3, and ME1/ME2. I could same more about Destroy, and refuse, but that's if you take things literaly, yet IT I hope is true.

Which is exactly why it's no simple Reaper off switch. This is exactly why it's no ABC ending.
I actually haven't had a save where I not cured the Genophage and picked Synthesis so I can't much comment, but as Mordin said "someone else might have gotten it wrong"? If you've got a non cured genophage synthesis ending where Krogans show up then maybe Mordin died in vain, but it's still you choice, and it's the consequence of multiple choices. It's not that they don't matter. Compare it to an ending where Shepard shot Mordin and tell me it's the same as Mordin dying while curing the Genophage. It might be the same result to some degree, but it's vastly different in what implications it brings.
The same is true for Legion.
Thane on the other hand stopped Kai Leng from killing the Council, or at least the Salarian Councilor, which might not matter to you, and isn't shown later, but it still matters. It's basically a small scale "save the DA" choice in ME1.

[MegumiAzusa]

Ellythe wrote...

Lokanaiya wrote...

Maybe this is just me, but I don't think Shepard should appear as anything other than an Easter egg if we're not controlling him. I can deal with having to move on to a different character, but it would just be weird to regularly see Shepard (especially as a mentor figure) if we don't have any impact on what he does or says.

But maybe this is part of why there's so much autodialogue in ME3.. So we can get used to having less control over Shepard

Easter egg, or epic bossfight!

Statues of Shep on the Citadel!

[paxxton]

nm

Modifié par paxxton, 19 octobre 2012 - 02:00 .

[paxxton]

Restrider wrote...





Ladies and Gentlemen,
I proudly present the results of the last poll. The list has been updated and I would like to encourage you to take part at the new poll and the survey about your choice at your first playthrough.
I would also like to have you spread the word about these polls to anyone who is interested in this topic.

Why don't u start polls for reasons 7-10?

[TSA_383]

paxxton wrote...

TSA_383 wrote...

Do we know when today the patch is getting released?

What patch?

Eh?

[paxxton]

TSA_383 wrote...

paxxton wrote...

TSA_383 wrote...

Do we know when today the patch is getting released?

What patch?

Eh?

No patch. I quoted your post from 15 days ago by mistake.