Aller au contenu

Photo

Was the Ending a Hallucination? - Indoctrination Theory Mark III!


  • Ce sujet est fermé Ce sujet est fermé
80611 réponses à ce sujet

#36951
BatmanTurian

BatmanTurian
  • Members
  • 4 735 messages

SwobyJ wrote...

It depends on my class. Some have it 5% per day, but this teacher... doesn't.

Instead, he has 20% off immediately, and able to submit it within 7 days.

So I'm going to be doing Saturday Rift Beta playing for Extra Life charity.
(Wooo I actually finished all the quests in one of the Lv 50-51 zones already! It was... kinda epic for an MMORPG :o)
Then Sunday is fully homework, and I can bring my assignment to his office tomorrow.


And to bring it back to Mass Effect, my boyfriend told me that his friend (who works for Bioware now) posted on Facebook at some point (I'm trying to get an answer on that) that Mass Effect 3's ending is 'breathtaking' haha.

That's it, actually. If I knew anything special, I wouldn't be sharing it here anyway :P, or anywhere.


I bought and preordered Rift and played it during the open beta into opening day. Played it for three months after that and stopped. I couldn't get into it. I think it's because Warhammer killed mmo's for me and maybe I grew out of them or something. I used to like them, but now I find them tedious. Good for you and Byne if you guys enjoy them though. Different people have different tastes.

Modifié par BatmanTurian, 20 octobre 2012 - 08:20 .


#36952
HectorBalsk

HectorBalsk
  • Members
  • 3 messages
PLEASE CAN SOMEONE MAKE A MOD FOR THIS!!! I want the indoc story/ending instead of the crap endings provided in the original AND extended cut. Also I am upset I'm expected to pay for ending content that should have been apart of the game in the first place that honestly still sucks! I wont be buying any of the dlcs btw. WTF is the point, same **** ending so why play the game again for dlc story lines that take place in the middle of the game after I already beat the game? Most people don't consider buying dlcs until they are already done the game, seems like a really bad way to make money off dlcs(HINT HINT BIOWARE)...I mean hell, you're not getting my money for them as it feels like a waste. WHY BIOWARE WHY?!? WHY COULDN'T YOU HAVE JUST DONE THE INDOC STORY?!? I really hoped that was what you were planning all along :*(. I'm a little late in joining this thread I know, but it only goes to show that the ending is STILL pissing off even the newer people coming to the mass effect franchise. I'm just blown away that it seems all the dlcs consist of content that SHOULD have already been in the game. SO PLEASE, TO THE TECH SAVVY FANS PLEASE FIX THIS STORY! That's a dlc I would pay money for, even if it's a mod. I had such high hopes, it feels like if every movie James Cameron ever made he'd walk out at the end and Uwe Boll stepped in and ruined it. I seriously hope this isn't a new trend for bioware.

#36953
BatmanTurian

BatmanTurian
  • Members
  • 4 735 messages

HectorBalsk wrote...

PLEASE CAN SOMEONE MAKE A MOD FOR THIS!!! I want the indoc story/ending instead of the crap endings provided in the original AND extended cut. Also I am upset I'm expected to pay for ending content that should have been apart of the game in the first place that honestly still sucks! I wont be buying any of the dlcs btw. WTF is the point, same **** ending so why play the game again for dlc story lines that take place in the middle of the game after I already beat the game? Most people don't consider buying dlcs until they are already done the game, seems like a really bad way to make money off dlcs(HINT HINT BIOWARE)...I mean hell, you're not getting my money for them as it feels like a waste. WHY BIOWARE WHY?!? WHY COULDN'T YOU HAVE JUST DONE THE INDOC STORY?!? I really hoped that was what you were planning all along :*(. I'm a little late in joining this thread I know, but it only goes to show that the ending is STILL pissing off even the newer people coming to the mass effect franchise. I'm just blown away that it seems all the dlcs consist of content that SHOULD have already been in the game. SO PLEASE, TO THE TECH SAVVY FANS PLEASE FIX THIS STORY! That's a dlc I would pay money for, even if it's a mod. I had such high hopes, it feels like if every movie James Cameron ever made he'd walk out at the end and Uwe Boll stepped in and ruined it. I seriously hope this isn't a new trend for bioware.


IT is the ending. Nothing is added. It's taken directly from the ending. So, unless you're joking or trolling, I don't think you quite understand IT.

#36954
BleedingUranium

BleedingUranium
  • Members
  • 6 118 messages

HectorBalsk wrote...

*snip*


The only thing that needs to be changed to make the end IT is the way you look at it. Posted Image

Modifié par BleedingUranium, 20 octobre 2012 - 08:47 .


#36955
Andromidius

Andromidius
  • Members
  • 2 997 messages

Raistlin Majare 1992 wrote...
Now I have said these things before, but one idea is that it might somehow be used to reconfigure the Citadel turnings its Mass Relay into a Mass Accelerator cannon of ridicolous size, kinda like the shot which took out the Derelict Reaper.


Oh yeah.  We were assuming Leviathan was the cause of the Derelict Reaper.

Now we pretty much know that's not the case, Leviathan doesn't fight like that.  Which leaves the question open to what did do that?

#36956
BatmanTurian

BatmanTurian
  • Members
  • 4 735 messages

Andromidius wrote...

Raistlin Majare 1992 wrote...
Now I have said these things before, but one idea is that it might somehow be used to reconfigure the Citadel turnings its Mass Relay into a Mass Accelerator cannon of ridicolous size, kinda like the shot which took out the Derelict Reaper.


Oh yeah.  We were assuming Leviathan was the cause of the Derelict Reaper.

Now we pretty much know that's not the case, Leviathan doesn't fight like that.  Which leaves the question open to what did do that?


Which makes me wonder if conventional warfare might be possible if a reverse-engineered Mass Accelerator cannon of rediculous size were created. If I remember correctly, Cerberus was working on a project like that.... HMMMM ;)

Modifié par BatmanTurian, 20 octobre 2012 - 09:02 .


#36957
Guest_SwobyJ_*

Guest_SwobyJ_*
  • Guests

BansheeOwnage wrote...

magnetite wrote...

A quote from Retribution:

"The simple minded focused on the holes in the story; they needed an explanation for every loose end. The intelligent filled in the holes themselves, using logic, reason, and creative thinking to weave the threads together..."

That is so true, least when it comes to the ending reaction.

Awesome. You want something truly perfect?

Behold.


Oh geez.

This was all bloody engineered.


Well played.

#36958
demersel

demersel
  • Members
  • 3 868 messages
THe Rio Installation looks a lot like The Panhea thing from DE:HR. Which really needs to be at least adressed - in a sense of what a hell is that thing's purpose?

#36959
Guest_SwobyJ_*

Guest_SwobyJ_*
  • Guests

BatmanTurian wrote...

SwobyJ wrote...

It depends on my class. Some have it 5% per day, but this teacher... doesn't.

Instead, he has 20% off immediately, and able to submit it within 7 days.

So I'm going to be doing Saturday Rift Beta playing for Extra Life charity.
(Wooo I actually finished all the quests in one of the Lv 50-51 zones already! It was... kinda epic for an MMORPG :o)
Then Sunday is fully homework, and I can bring my assignment to his office tomorrow.


And to bring it back to Mass Effect, my boyfriend told me that his friend (who works for Bioware now) posted on Facebook at some point (I'm trying to get an answer on that) that Mass Effect 3's ending is 'breathtaking' haha.

That's it, actually. If I knew anything special, I wouldn't be sharing it here anyway :P, or anywhere.


I bought and preordered Rift and played it during the open beta into opening day. Played it for three months after that and stopped. I couldn't get into it. I think it's because Warhammer killed mmo's for me and maybe I grew out of them or something. I used to like them, but now I find them tedious. Good for you and Byne if you guys enjoy them though. Different people have different tastes.


I'm a huge fan of Trion and even visited their Rift studio in 2010 for a Gamer Day, met the devs, played the game before beta started, etc.

But I still totally understand people not enjoying Rift in its first few to several months. I get the WoW-clone remarks and the sense of boredum people feel just from playing the basic content.

However, I think Rift right now is absolutely different from what it started as. It's actually damn nice and always has something to do, in a good way.

Here's something from beta (NDA has lifted. Storm Legion adds two continents): youtu.be/rqmB9-xhEkE

But if MMOs are something one is done with, they're just...done. No game can bring that back - only time can, if that.

#36960
gunslinger_ruiz

gunslinger_ruiz
  • Members
  • 1 650 messages

BatmanTurian wrote...

Andromidius wrote...

Raistlin Majare 1992 wrote...
Now I have said these things before, but one idea is that it might somehow be used to reconfigure the Citadel turnings its Mass Relay into a Mass Accelerator cannon of ridicolous size, kinda like the shot which took out the Derelict Reaper.


Oh yeah.  We were assuming Leviathan was the cause of the Derelict Reaper.

Now we pretty much know that's not the case, Leviathan doesn't fight like that.  Which leaves the question open to what did do that?


Which makes me wonder if conventional warfare might be possible if a reverse-engineered Mass Accelerator cannon of rediculous size were created. If I remember correctly, Cerberus was working on a project like that.... HMMMM ;)


Leviathan wasn't the cause if the Derelict Reaper (the 37 million year old one, ME2 mission), that one was killed by giant mass accelerator weapon (defunct, according to TIM). Leviathan was responible for the Reaper corpse the Batarians recovered from Dis, covered up, studied, Salarians had recordings of it before the cover up. Nicknamed the "Leviathan of Dis" I believe. However, we come to find out the real Leviathan isn't the Reaper corpse, it's the thing that killed it.

Modifié par gunslinger_ruiz, 20 octobre 2012 - 09:37 .


#36961
BatmanTurian

BatmanTurian
  • Members
  • 4 735 messages

demersel wrote...

THe Rio Installation looks a lot like The Panhea thing from DE:HR. Which really needs to be at least adressed - in a sense of what a hell is that thing's purpose?


It looks like a desalinator to create more fresh water for a large city and a hydroelectric plant in one to me. Possibly a kelp farm as well? I'm not sure if I'm remembering it correctly. Hard to remember details when you're dodging shots and killing things.

#36962
gunslinger_ruiz

gunslinger_ruiz
  • Members
  • 1 650 messages
Sidenote: The Crucible as a Mass Accelerator weapon, the idea, I believe was first mentioned in Arian Dynas's script. May have been someone else's to suggest it to him, but his script is worth a look if anyone can find a link.

#36963
BleedingUranium

BleedingUranium
  • Members
  • 6 118 messages

gunslinger_ruiz wrote...

BatmanTurian wrote...

Andromidius wrote...

Raistlin Majare 1992 wrote...
Now I have said these things before, but one idea is that it might somehow be used to reconfigure the Citadel turnings its Mass Relay into a Mass Accelerator cannon of ridicolous size, kinda like the shot which took out the Derelict Reaper.


Oh yeah.  We were assuming Leviathan was the cause of the Derelict Reaper.

Now we pretty much know that's not the case, Leviathan doesn't fight like that.  Which leaves the question open to what did do that?


Which makes me wonder if conventional warfare might be possible if a reverse-engineered Mass Accelerator cannon of rediculous size were created. If I remember correctly, Cerberus was working on a project like that.... HMMMM ;)


Leviathan wasn't the cause if the Derelict Reaper (the 37 million year old one, ME2 mission), that one was killed by giant mass accelerator weapon (defunct, according to TIM). Leviathan was responible for the Reaper corpse the Batarians recovered from Dis, covered up, studied, Salarians had recordings of it before the cover up. Nicknamed the "Leviathan of Dis" I believe. However, we come to find out the real Leviathan isn't the Reaper corpse, it's the thing that killed it.


Correct on all counts Posted Image

#36964
BatmanTurian

BatmanTurian
  • Members
  • 4 735 messages

gunslinger_ruiz wrote...

BatmanTurian wrote...

Andromidius wrote...

Raistlin Majare 1992 wrote...
Now I have said these things before, but one idea is that it might somehow be used to reconfigure the Citadel turnings its Mass Relay into a Mass Accelerator cannon of ridicolous size, kinda like the shot which took out the Derelict Reaper.


Oh yeah.  We were assuming Leviathan was the cause of the Derelict Reaper.

Now we pretty much know that's not the case, Leviathan doesn't fight like that.  Which leaves the question open to what did do that?


Which makes me wonder if conventional warfare might be possible if a reverse-engineered Mass Accelerator cannon of rediculous size were created. If I remember correctly, Cerberus was working on a project like that.... HMMMM ;)


Leviathan wasn't the cause if the Derelict Reaper (the 37 million year old one, ME2 mission), that one was killed by giant mass accelarator weapon (defunct, according to TIM). Leviathan was responible for the Reaper corpse the Batarians recovered from Dis, covered up, studied, Salarians had recordings of it before the cover up. Nicknamed the "Leviathan of Dis" I believe. However, we come to find out the real Leviathan isn't the Reaper corpse, it's the thing that killed it.


Uh, i wasn't saying that. Androm was saying that. I was saying that I think Cerberus was possibly working on reverse-engineering the MAC that "killed" the Derelict.

#36965
demersel

demersel
  • Members
  • 3 868 messages
 Fun-made, but strangly deep and compeling

Posted Image

#36966
BatmanTurian

BatmanTurian
  • Members
  • 4 735 messages

gunslinger_ruiz wrote...

Sidenote: The Crucible as a Mass Accelerator weapon, the idea, I believe was first mentioned in Arian Dynas's script. May have been someone else's to suggest it to him, but his script is worth a look if anyone can find a link.


Yeah, I've read it and I think it's a possibility. I think Raistlin and I talked to Arian about it.

#36967
BleedingUranium

BleedingUranium
  • Members
  • 6 118 messages

BatmanTurian wrote...

gunslinger_ruiz wrote...

Sidenote: The Crucible as a Mass Accelerator weapon, the idea, I believe was first mentioned in Arian Dynas's script. May have been someone else's to suggest it to him, but his script is worth a look if anyone can find a link.


Yeah, I've read it and I think it's a possibility. I think Raistlin and I talked to Arian about it.


I like it, but I like the Mass Indoctrination Device idea better Posted Image

#36968
BatmanTurian

BatmanTurian
  • Members
  • 4 735 messages

demersel wrote...

 Fun-made, but strangly deep and compeling

Posted Image


Is she.... coming apart... like in synthesis? WTF. Plus green eyes... implications... unpleasant.

#36969
BatmanTurian

BatmanTurian
  • Members
  • 4 735 messages

BleedingUranium wrote...

BatmanTurian wrote...

gunslinger_ruiz wrote...

Sidenote: The Crucible as a Mass Accelerator weapon, the idea, I believe was first mentioned in Arian Dynas's script. May have been someone else's to suggest it to him, but his script is worth a look if anyone can find a link.


Yeah, I've read it and I think it's a possibility. I think Raistlin and I talked to Arian about it.


I like it, but I like the Mass Indoctrination Device idea better Posted Image


I think it might have started out as a MAC designed and created by organics but the Reapers discovered it and turned the blueprints of it into a MID.

#36970
gunslinger_ruiz

gunslinger_ruiz
  • Members
  • 1 650 messages

BatmanTurian wrote...


Uh, i wasn't saying that. Androm was saying that. I was saying that I think Cerberus was possibly working on reverse-engineering the MAC that "killed" the Derelict.


Was only trying to clarify for whoever may have been mixing the two Reapers up. Or maybe I just read it wrong.

#36971
demersel

demersel
  • Members
  • 3 868 messages
Ok, who here knows anything about Mass Effect Infiltrator? Who played it?

#36972
BatmanTurian

BatmanTurian
  • Members
  • 4 735 messages

gunslinger_ruiz wrote...

BatmanTurian wrote...


Uh, i wasn't saying that. Androm was saying that. I was saying that I think Cerberus was possibly working on reverse-engineering the MAC that "killed" the Derelict.


Was only trying to clarify for whoever may have been mixing the two Reapers up. Or maybe I just read it wrong.


It's cool. I was just clarifying too. ^_^

#36973
BatmanTurian

BatmanTurian
  • Members
  • 4 735 messages

demersel wrote...

Ok, who here knows anything about Mass Effect Infiltrator? Who played it?


http://masseffect.wi...ct:_Infiltrator

#36974
gunslinger_ruiz

gunslinger_ruiz
  • Members
  • 1 650 messages

BleedingUranium wrote...

BatmanTurian wrote...

gunslinger_ruiz wrote...

Sidenote: The Crucible as a Mass Accelerator weapon, the idea, I believe was first mentioned in Arian Dynas's script. May have been someone else's to suggest it to him, but his script is worth a look if anyone can find a link.


Yeah, I've read it and I think it's a possibility. I think Raistlin and I talked to Arian about it.


I like it, but I like the Mass Indoctrination Device idea better Posted Image


I think anything is possible, but you've got to leave some level of hope in the story ;)

If the Crucible is an Indoctrination Device then we're pretty much SOL, you can't beat the Reapers conventionally, even if the fleet took out all the Reapers around Earth there's plenty more in the galaxy (and beyond) to crush whats left fo the allied fleet.

If the Crucible did nothing, then your only hope for victory, your survival, would be nothing short of a miracle.

I've always been a fan of the "Backlash" theory. Failing to indoctrinate Shepard, his/her will too powerful, Harbinger and the majority of Reaper ships are temporarily disabled/stunned, just long enough for allies around the galaxy to inflict major damage on Reaper numbers before they can recover. Reapers would still be a threat, but their numbers would be severely depleted. Much like Saren's feedback pulse stunned Sovereign, but on a much larger scale due to Harbinger being fully rejected by Shepard.

Problem: according to the codex, Reapers don't seem to suffer from the same flaw as Sovereign did.
Potention answer: Shepard isn't possed like Saren was at the end of ME1, he/she would fully reject the indoctrination signal, (potentially) sending a different type of feedback along the signal.

#36975
demersel

demersel
  • Members
  • 3 868 messages

BatmanTurian wrote...

demersel wrote...

Ok, who here knows anything about Mass Effect Infiltrator? Who played it?


http://masseffect.wi...ct:_Infiltrator


Not enough. To general. I need the description of the mission on the ice planet.  And also some specific details are needed.