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[D.Sharrah]

For any that have completed the OP for this weekend...congrats, its not exactly easy. For those that haven't...I found Glacier vs Geth, quite doable (actually was able to get 50 melees by the end of wave 4).

A question in general - what is the consensus on the fact that this was a strictly individual challenge? Do you think that community goals are a thing of the past? And more importantly how does this affect the MP story line and how it ties into the SP story line?

[masster blaster]

David, and if you look at Synthesis, and if you think it's an over lay of the beam run it all makes sense. Shepard want be Shepard anymore.

[Davik Kang]

masster blaster wrote...

Well it's funny everyone is acting strange on Earth. Wrex forogt that it was he that wanted to name the child after Morin, not Eve. Also primearc Victus is on Earth. The last leader of the Truian forces, not talking about the other generals, but the heade Leader of the Turians is on Earth.

The council is on the Citadel. The Embassadors of every nation except the Batarians in on the Citadel. Victous leader of the Turians, Wrex Leader of the Krogan, Kirra leader of STG, The Geth primes leaders of the Geth, The Quarian admiral leaders of the Quarians, Hackett,Shepard, and Anderson leaders of Humanity, Bakr is the last military leader of the Batarians is fighting in space, Aria leader of the Terminus systems/ fleets, So many people in the sol system waiting to become Indoctrinated. With all of those leaders on Earth/ fighting in space/ on the Citadel. Do you all realy think the Reaper would miss this chance to Indoctrinate all of these leaders. Hell no.

If the Crucible is a trap, which many of use do, then all of these people I mentioned are targets to become Indoctrinated.

They are already working on Wrex, Victous, Anderson, and our squad mates, but it is Shepard who is becoming the first to fall. Hence the endings.

This post is so true.  Omg.  And look at the highlighted bit.  Like the indoctrinated guys in the vids who can't decide which person had the memory originally.

Also Wrex's speech... says "one word" saved the galaxy from the Rachni.  Maybe reading into it too much again, but a Krogan talking about the power of words rather than the power of action?  Not sure, file in second drawer down...

[Restrider]

The galaxy in a post-war situation (if we canonize Destroy):
There have been many losses in all systems/sectors of the galaxy. You could have a scenario with martial law and rebels/pirates/separatists/supremacists (Cerberus remnants) trying to get a bigger slice of the few resources/tech/intact cities/planets that are left. Shepard has maybe united the galaxy against the Reapers. But his/her maingoal was to fight for the right of self-determination.
The organics are now in a siutation with limited resources and the entitites that could force order have had heavy casualties during the war. Thus you have a power vacuum in more than one place in the galaxy. Older conflicts may arise again (krogan revanchists or a reckoning with the asari that withheld crucial tech) and new conflicts may start (a struggle of the races to impose a new order - not necessarily a full scale war - but some minor conflicts/operations).
Throw in a bunch ofcharacters with very good development and make it more sand-boxy and less railroading and you have a good game.
I'd also like to bring up this thread I opened af few weeks back.

Modifié par Restrider, 20 octobre 2012 - 05:32 .

[masster blaster]

I would say this operation is like the miracl of Palavin. Think about it Collectors show up, and now if you read the miracal of palavin, then Collector swarms were sent to palavin to stop the Krogan.

[Davik Kang]

They avoid all the questions about how they menaged to survive.

It's more than that. Coats with a suspicious look says "if it weren't for Anderson we'd already be dead". (!)

[demersel]

Davik Kang wrote...

They avoid all the questions about how they menaged to survive.

It's more than that. Coats with a suspicious look says "if it weren't for Anderson we'd already be dead". (!)

Yes. And many many more, despite the fact that they don't really say a lot of things. 

It is nice that you guys started to catch up finally. 

[Davik Kang]

demersel wrote...
It is nice that you guys started to catch up finally. 

We're still speculating.  Petulant digs at everyone and presumtions of correctness aren't going to win you any allies here.

[demersel]

Davik Kang wrote...

demersel wrote...
It is nice that you guys started to catch up finally. 

We're still speculating.  Petulant digs at everyone and presumtions of correctness aren't going to win you any allies here.

What digs? What allies? 

[Humakt83]

Davik Kang wrote...

401 Kill wrote...
It makes perfect sense. There is even a datapad in the FOB about how the beam seems to call them in, and those who return are not the same (indoctrinated). And at the end, all of your forces are litterally running towards the beam...

Oh.  My.  God.  And there is a datapad where someone says, everyone who goes in there something something, right, and it gets more muddled, until the calm but at the end, where they say,

"won't go in there.  Know what to do"

or something...

holy moly...

I might have to play P:E again... even though I never normally do that...

It's not a war any more.  It's an investigation, a puzzle, a mystery

I think I've played the P:E 5 times at least. The ending (from the beam) probably over 20 times. Mostly by doing some investigation and trying the different endings before and after EC. 

Some of you might have missed this: http://social.biowar.../index/11995829

Modifié par Humakt83, 20 octobre 2012 - 05:45 .

[Andromidius]

Also, Anderson seems to be available for communications quite regularly. And always has access to the holo communication device, despite it being a relatively new and expensive piece of kit. Quite impressive for a guy who's apperently hiding in backwater downs and sewers on a planet that's been conquerored by Reapers.

I guess Reapers didn't get the memo they are supposed to block communications.

[demersel]

So....when shepard wakes up at the citadel - he's going away from the beam...then he sits down. then collapses again. whe the child is waking him up he's actually at the same spot he collapsed at, after going away from the beam - but he's facing it, stands up and starts coming to it again.

must look really funny if you look at it from afar. ))) But really looks like to be what happened.

[ajk_Jack]

Davik Kang wrote...

Oh.  My.  God.  And there is a datapad where someone says, everyone who goes in there something something, right, and it gets more muddled, until the calm but at the end, where they say,

"won't go in there.  Know what to do"

or something...

holy moly...

I might have to play P:E again... even though I never normally do that...

It's not a war any more.  It's an investigation, a puzzle, a mystery

Dang....You're onto something big.

[ajk_Jack]

D.Sharrah wrote...

For any that have completed the OP for this weekend...congrats, its not exactly easy. For those that haven't...I found Glacier vs Geth, quite doable (actually was able to get 50 melees by the end of wave 4).

A question in general - what is the consensus on the fact that this was a strictly individual challenge? Do you think that community goals are a thing of the past? And more importantly how does this affect the MP story line and how it ties into the SP story line?

According to BW, from here on out there will be an OP every weekend, instead of every other one. I'm thinking every other OP will have a community challenge, the others will be strictly individual.

[jojon2se]

BleedingUranium wrote...

What I like about the "Crucible is an indoctrination device" idea is that the way we'd win would be to "reverse" its effects, or something like that. We'd sabotage it to be an anti-indoctrination device! Then everyone everywhere would cease to be indoctrinated, including the Reapers themselves. This obviously goes together with the idea that all the Reapers are just indoctrinated like everyone else, except Harbinger. That would also fit well with indoctrination being the true enemy in ME, and we'd still get an epic boss battle with Harby!

 ---snip ---

If this were to be the case, I'd trade that bossfight for seeing other reapers turn on Harbinger.
It may be clichéd and I couldn't really see any reaper nations get their bearings back in order and turn so quickly (if at all), after living indoctrinated for so many thousand years, the second the "seed voice", that might permeate the communication field that keeps all the minds within a nation connected, falls silent -- even if it is replaced by a rousing speech from The_oneTM-Shepard's-magical-superior-willpower-and-inspirational-spirit; ...but I like it, dammit. :7

[Davik Kang]

Humakt83 wrote...
Some of you might have missed this: http://social.biowar.../index/11995829

What are we looking at?  The OP?  The footstep sounds are just the guy who walks around the ship.  You can press 'Action" on him to make him salute.

It's probably just a bug.  Near the end, sometimes when I went to crew deck,  Shepard would appear in space and just fall, and die.  If I realoaded she'd eventually be able to go to crew deck.  Happened 2 or 3 times in total.

The laughter is interesting... I'll reload now and check it out.

Themes of darkness and noise are very important and ME3 - like in the dreams, but elsewhere as well...

[demersel]

Andromidius wrote...

Also, Anderson seems to be available for communications quite regularly. And always has access to the holo communication device, despite it being a relatively new and expensive piece of kit. Quite impressive for a guy who's apperently hiding in backwater downs and sewers on a planet that's been conquerored by Reapers.

I guess Reapers didn't get the memo they are supposed to block communications.

By the way...what the perpuse of that device originally was? To connect you with illusive man. If we accept that the Illussive man is actually a reaper..... than it all makes sense... What if you keep talking to it all through ME3?  
What if the QEC technology is actually a direct communication with a reaper? Each QEC is strictly point ot point device to device! How do you call multiple places on that thing? ))) It fits!  TIM is a reaper. QEC technology is actually of reaper origin object Rho has it. 

Modifié par demersel, 20 octobre 2012 - 05:59 .

[masster blaster]

Hello Beam Synthesis. The data pad at the FOB, it literaly telling us that Synthesis is going to change Shepard. " Everything that you are will be sent out." In other word Shepard in general we be gone/ fully Indoctrinated.

[Davik Kang]

demersel wrote...

So....when shepard wakes up at the citadel - he's going away from the beam...then he sits down. then collapses again. whe the child is waking him up he's actually at the same spot he collapsed at, after going away from the beam - but he's facing it, stands up and starts coming to it again.

must look really funny if you look at it from afar. ))) But really looks like to be what happened.

Yeah if it's a hallucination and not a dream.  Could still be in the head though, because if she's on Earth all this time, it doesn't really matter whether she's dreaming or hallucinating.

[CmdrShep80]

Hmm...so the Protheans destroyed the "call home" on the citadel after the Reapers left so the Reapers are back now. They are pretty much most everywhere. But pretty much the entire galaxy's hierarchy is sitting in orbit of Earth with a bunch of Reapers who can indoctrinate them all...

Codex-Reaper "indoctrination" is an insidious means of corrupting organic minds...Should a Reaper subvert a well-placed political or military leader, the resulting chaos can bring down nations.

[masster blaster]

Also the Operation is about Krogan. Miracel at Palaivan is happening. Collectors come back before the new operation stars. The Miracal at Palavivan had Collectors in the artical. Perfect timing if I say so my self. Retaliation.

[CmdrShep80]

Are there any reasons for the star systems without Reapers in them to be that way? For example during the entire game Sur'Kesh never sees any Reapers in its skies. Are they saying Salarians are not worth the effort of harvesting?

[Humakt83]

Davik Kang wrote...

Humakt83 wrote...
Some of you might have missed this: http://social.biowar.../index/11995829

What are we looking at?  The OP?  The footstep sounds are just the guy who walks around the ship.  You can press 'Action" on him to make him salute.

There is laughing (both woman and child), coughing and reportedly even crying. The sounds are faint and random (and you can hear them in engineering deck even), so you need to use headphones, but the ambience of new Normandy is vastly different from ME 1 & 2.

Modifié par Humakt83, 20 octobre 2012 - 06:14 .

[demersel]

everytime you speak through the QEC you're actually speaking with a reaper. Each person speaking on the QEC is speaking with a reaper. And while you do - they indoctrinate you. You didn't speak to Hackett or Anderson on the Normandy. Yuo wer speaking to the reaper. Only time you saw the real Hackett is when he boarded the Normandy. Only time you saw the real Anderson is in Vancouver and London. Before you ask how did Anderson and Hacket know about the contents of your conversation, then - it's because they were also speaking to the same reaper over the QEC that was impersonating you, The reaper actet as a telephone hub! All the calls go through him!! And he can choose what each of the participants gets out of the conversation. Hell, they can probably do that at real time, having both conversations at once. ))