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[BatmanTurian]

TJBartlemus wrote...

demersel wrote...

Davik. Thank you for confirming it. You see, all those techs are just projections of the reaper - the vids are all fake. If there were real? where are they? It's not like they had time to evacuate - it was a surprise attack. The human reaper you find in the cronos station is the real TIM. He is just not fifnished yet. The more fifnished he gets - the less human he behaves.

What??  Confused I am...what have I missed in the last 24 hours?

dermesal is convinced TIM is a Reaper downloaded into a human body. That's the short of it. Also that all the times we see him aren't real. They're projections or holograms.

[Davik Kang]

demersel wrote...
Davik. Thank you for confirming it. You see, all those techs are just projections of the reaper - the vids are all fake. If there were real? where are they? It's not like they had time to evacuate - it was a surprise attack. The human reaper you find in the cronos station is the real TIM. He is just not fifnished yet. The more fifnished he gets - the less human he behaves.

I haven't confirmed anything.  I'm just saying what I'm seeing.

When you report to Anderson afterwards, he seems almost uninterested in the development that the Citadel is coming to Earth and that all galactic forces and the final battle will be orientated there.  He just says "well it's good we'll see you sooner rather than later".

Still specualtive but damn, he does take it all in his stride.  Maybe that's what good soldiers/leaders do.

Does anyone have a transcript of everything the VI says on this station?  I missed a couple of things.

[TJBartlemus]

demersel wrote...

In ME2 Harbinger is curious about the concept - so he cundacts an experimant - in his secret lab in a safe enviroment, his personal back yard - to see whot comes out of that. He wants to control everything. TIM-reaper wants to be in charge and sabotages harbinger's work. 
Again, TIM-Reaper is cross with harbinger for some reason. He may hove gone rogue. (just like cerberus did with the allience)

 Are you serious (you believe this happened) or are you just shooting out ideas? 

[ajk_Jack]

BatmanTurian wrote...

TJBartlemus wrote...

demersel wrote...

Davik. Thank you for confirming it. You see, all those techs are just projections of the reaper - the vids are all fake. If there were real? where are they? It's not like they had time to evacuate - it was a surprise attack. The human reaper you find in the cronos station is the real TIM. He is just not fifnished yet. The more fifnished he gets - the less human he behaves.

What??  Confused I am...what have I missed in the last 24 hours?

dermesal is convinced TIM is a Reaper downloaded into a human body. That's the short of it. Also that all the times we see him aren't real. They're projections or holograms.

It all started on about page 1480 where demersel pointed out the silhouette of TIM in his chair looks like a Reaper, which it does. He continued by expanding on that and its implications.

[BansheeOwnage]

DoomsdayDevice wrote...

Wow, I only played Overlord once... luckily we have Bill Casey:

Bill Casey wrote...

Gavin Archer: This is a hybrid intelligence the likes of which I have never seen. I don't know where the man ends and the machine begins.

Shepard: You should have considered that before you started the experiment.
_______________________________________________

Gavin Archer: I'm begging you, don't do anything rash.

Shepard: Rash? Like forcing your brother into an experiment?

Gavin Archer: I know how this must look, but I never intended any harm to come to him. You must believe me
______________________________________________

Gavin Archer: Any war we fight with the Geth will be bloody. I was asked to find a way to avoid that.

Shepard: Who gave you the right to play God?

Gavin Archer: People who were too afraid to make difficult decisions themselves. When they pray for a miracle, they're really praying for men like me to make the tough choices. If my work spares a million mothers morning the loss of a million sons, my conscience will rest easy.
_______________________________________________

Gavin Archer: It would be the perfect weapon. -- Victory without casualties! We could avoid war with the Geth altogether. That was the plan, anyway.
_______________________________________________

Shepard: What went wrong with the experiment?

Gavin Archer: David volunteered to interface with the VI to give it genuine consciousness. Theoretically it should have been safe, but... with artificial intelligence there is no such thing as safe.

Shepard: Then you shouldn't have attempted it.

God damn. This puts the final nail in the coffin for control and synthesis. Over and out.

Just replace David with Shepard in that bolded sentence.

Heavy, heavy, undeniable 'control/synthesis is a no-no' foreshadowing.

Agreed. In fact, I am not of the opinion that Overlord is the go-to DLC for IT. More than Leviathan. Leviathan all but confirms it's a hallucination, but this totally invalidates 2 choices. Nice.

[TJBartlemus]

ajk_Jack wrote...

BatmanTurian wrote...

TJBartlemus wrote...

demersel wrote...

Davik. Thank you for confirming it. You see, all those techs are just projections of the reaper - the vids are all fake. If there were real? where are they? It's not like they had time to evacuate - it was a surprise attack. The human reaper you find in the cronos station is the real TIM. He is just not fifnished yet. The more fifnished he gets - the less human he behaves.

What??  Confused I am...what have I missed in the last 24 hours?

dermesal is convinced TIM is a Reaper downloaded into a human body. That's the short of it. Also that all the times we see him aren't real. They're projections or holograms.

It all started on about page 1480 where demersel pointed out the silhouette of TIM in his chair looks like a Reaper, which it does. He continued by expanding on that and its implications.

Picture??

[BatmanTurian]

ajk_Jack wrote...

BatmanTurian wrote...

TJBartlemus wrote...

demersel wrote...

Davik. Thank you for confirming it. You see, all those techs are just projections of the reaper - the vids are all fake. If there were real? where are they? It's not like they had time to evacuate - it was a surprise attack. The human reaper you find in the cronos station is the real TIM. He is just not fifnished yet. The more fifnished he gets - the less human he behaves.

What??  Confused I am...what have I missed in the last 24 hours?

dermesal is convinced TIM is a Reaper downloaded into a human body. That's the short of it. Also that all the times we see him aren't real. They're projections or holograms.

It all started on about page 1480 where demersel pointed out the silhouette of TIM in his chair looks like a Reaper, which it does. He continued by expanding on that and its implications.

Which was fine, but now I'm just trying to be polite about my disagreement with what he is now proposing.

[demersel]

He's not a reaper downloaded into human body. He's just some neraly killed reaper that is rebuilding himself, and in the process he, while he isn't a complete reaper assimilated Jack Harper into his identity - and liked being a human. Possiblby that is entity that was the darelict reaper - He ddecided to change his body and become something new.

[BansheeOwnage]

BatmanTurian wrote...

Dreadnoughts could conceivably lower their mass with Eezo. That said, you could be right. It could be one more thing that never existed.

It existed. The shockwave knocked Anderson and Shepard down. Plus, I think dreadnaughts could lower their mass enough to simply hover, if reapers can lower it enough to land.

[CmdrShep80]

Wow the thread about the ambient noise on the Normandy is interesting (the posts from earlier). Will try to look for it later

[TJBartlemus]

BatmanTurian wrote...

TJBartlemus wrote...

demersel wrote...

Davik. Thank you for confirming it. You see, all those techs are just projections of the reaper - the vids are all fake. If there were real? where are they? It's not like they had time to evacuate - it was a surprise attack. The human reaper you find in the cronos station is the real TIM. He is just not fifnished yet. The more fifnished he gets - the less human he behaves.

What??  Confused I am...what have I missed in the last 24 hours?

dermesal is convinced TIM is a Reaper downloaded into a human body. That's the short of it. Also that all the times we see him aren't real. They're projections or holograms.

First off he might be on to something. My twist on his idea is that TIM is real and a reaper is downloaded into his mind from meeting the artifact (the one that changed his eyes). You know what that download is called? Indoctrination. He is just saying the same thing but in different terms/words. (Am I touching upon the idea or am I just totally wrong??)

[BatmanTurian]

TJBartlemus wrote...

ajk_Jack wrote...

BatmanTurian wrote...

TJBartlemus wrote...

demersel wrote...

Davik. Thank you for confirming it. You see, all those techs are just projections of the reaper - the vids are all fake. If there were real? where are they? It's not like they had time to evacuate - it was a surprise attack. The human reaper you find in the cronos station is the real TIM. He is just not fifnished yet. The more fifnished he gets - the less human he behaves.

What??  Confused I am...what have I missed in the last 24 hours?

dermesal is convinced TIM is a Reaper downloaded into a human body. That's the short of it. Also that all the times we see him aren't real. They're projections or holograms.

It all started on about page 1480 where demersel pointed out the silhouette of TIM in his chair looks like a Reaper, which it does. He continued by expanding on that and its implications.

Picture??

http://social.biowar...7/1480#14585308

[ajk_Jack]

TJBartlemus wrote...

Picture??

One amongst many

Edit: I was beaten to it. 

Modifié par ajk_Jack, 20 octobre 2012 - 08:23 .

[demersel]

TJBartlemus wrote...

demersel wrote...

In ME2 Harbinger is curious about the concept - so he cundacts an experimant - in his secret lab in a safe enviroment, his personal back yard - to see whot comes out of that. He wants to control everything. TIM-reaper wants to be in charge and sabotages harbinger's work. 
Again, TIM-Reaper is cross with harbinger for some reason. He may hove gone rogue. (just like cerberus did with the allience)

 Are you serious (you believe this happened) or are you just shooting out ideas? 

Both. 

[BatmanTurian]

TJBartlemus wrote...

BatmanTurian wrote...

TJBartlemus wrote...

demersel wrote...

Davik. Thank you for confirming it. You see, all those techs are just projections of the reaper - the vids are all fake. If there were real? where are they? It's not like they had time to evacuate - it was a surprise attack. The human reaper you find in the cronos station is the real TIM. He is just not fifnished yet. The more fifnished he gets - the less human he behaves.

What??  Confused I am...what have I missed in the last 24 hours?

dermesal is convinced TIM is a Reaper downloaded into a human body. That's the short of it. Also that all the times we see him aren't real. They're projections or holograms.

First off he might be on to something. My twist on his idea is that TIM is real and a reaper is downloaded into his mind from meeting the artifact (the one that changed his eyes). You know what that download is called? Indoctrination. He is just saying the same thing but in different terms/words. (Am I touching upon the idea or am I just totally wrong??)

No I think he means another individual reaper, like Sovereign or Harbinger. He says not downloaded into TIM. I'm not sure what he means.

[BatmanTurian]

BansheeOwnage wrote...

BatmanTurian wrote...

Dreadnoughts could conceivably lower their mass with Eezo. That said, you could be right. It could be one more thing that never existed.

It existed. The shockwave knocked Anderson and Shepard down. Plus, I think dreadnaughts could lower their mass enough to simply hover, if reapers can lower it enough to land.

I know, I was just trying to be nice and supportive.

[TJBartlemus]

demersel wrote...

He's not a reaper downloaded into human body. He's just some neraly killed reaper that is rebuilding himself, and in the process he, while he isn't a complete reaper assimilated Jack Harper into his identity - and liked being a human. Possiblby that is entity that was the darelict reaper - He ddecided to change his body and become something new.

Is this really demersel? For real? First off the spelling and punctuation is totally off. Second...demersel doesn't just make crazy "theories" out of nowhere without substantial proof. He does sometimes makes radical ideas but not this radical.

[401 Kill]

TJBartlemus wrote...

demersel wrote...

He's not a reaper downloaded into human body. He's just some neraly killed reaper that is rebuilding himself, and in the process he, while he isn't a complete reaper assimilated Jack Harper into his identity - and liked being a human. Possiblby that is entity that was the darelict reaper - He ddecided to change his body and become something new.

Is this really demersel? For real? First off the spelling and punctuation is totally off. Second...demersel doesn't just make crazy "theories" out of nowhere without substantial proof. He does sometimes makes radical ideas but not this radical.

I'm... Pretty sure this is Demersel. 

[DoomsdayDevice]

Demersel is either totally drunk, or his account got hacked. xD

[demersel]

TJBartlemus wrote...

First off he might be on to something. My twist on his idea is that TIM is real and a reaper is downloaded into his mind from meeting the artifact (the one that changed his eyes). You know what that download is called? Indoctrination. He is just saying the same thing but in different terms/words. (Am I touching upon the idea or am I just totally wrong??)

That is exactly what i am saying. With an addition, that by the time of ME3 at least, And maybe even ME2 TIM is not actually a human anymore - he used to be in jack Haraper, AND he liked being Jack Harper, being a human. - by the time of ME3/possibly ME3 he dosn't have a physical body anymore. And possibly that human reaper we found at cerberus base is NOT the same one we destroyed at collector base, but rather the one that cerberus was building - and he is the real illusive man. (maybe it is the same and they just salvaget it, but still by the start of ME3 he already downloaded into it)

[BansheeOwnage]

BatmanTurian wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

BatmanTurian wrote...

Dreadnoughts could conceivably lower their mass with Eezo. That said, you could be right. It could be one more thing that never existed.

It existed. The shockwave knocked Anderson and Shepard down. Plus, I think dreadnaughts could lower their mass enough to simply hover, if reapers can lower it enough to land.

I know, I was just trying to be nice and supportive.

__________________

[BatmanTurian]

demersel wrote...

TJBartlemus wrote...

First off he might be on to something. My twist on his idea is that TIM is real and a reaper is downloaded into his mind from meeting the artifact (the one that changed his eyes). You know what that download is called? Indoctrination. He is just saying the same thing but in different terms/words. (Am I touching upon the idea or am I just totally wrong??)

That is exactly what i am saying. With an addition, that by the time of ME3 at least, And maybe even ME2 TIM is not actually a human anymore - he used to be in jack Haraper, AND he liked being Jack Harper, being a human. - by the time of ME3/possibly ME3 he dosn't have a physical body anymore. And possibly that human reaper we found at cerberus base is NOT the same one we destroyed at collector base, but rather the one that cerberus was building - and he is the real illusive man. (maybe it is the same and they just salvaget it, but still by the start of ME3 he already downloaded into it)

I'm really having trouble following this, but maybe it's because English is not your first language.

[GethPrimeMKII]

What if multiplayer is just a simulation?

[BatmanTurian]

BansheeOwnage wrote...

BatmanTurian wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

BatmanTurian wrote...

Dreadnoughts could conceivably lower their mass with Eezo. That said, you could be right. It could be one more thing that never existed.

It existed. The shockwave knocked Anderson and Shepard down. Plus, I think dreadnaughts could lower their mass enough to simply hover, if reapers can lower it enough to land.

I know, I was just trying to be nice and supportive.

__________________

lol

[Bill Casey]

It could be a Reaper posing as demersel...
We've never met him in person...

Modifié par Bill Casey, 20 octobre 2012 - 08:31 .