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Was the Ending a Hallucination? - Indoctrination Theory Mark III!


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Davik Kang

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MegumiAzusa wrote...
Why remove it then? Also why wasn't it in medium ems where you still couldn't choose Synthesis? It just can't be assumed that it was referring to it in the first place.

Ah right I get you now, was getting it the wrong way round.  Trying to do too many things at once sorry.  Any luck with a mid-EMS vid?

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I think I may have found out actually. Was looking through the London files to see if there were any hints and one of the file names has Oxford Circus in it. 

Thank you for this and the architechture thing.

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It's a bit symbolic right? That there are no Reapers (the main enemy) and you only fight beings that are indoctrinated almost the entire time of the end...it's almost like BioWare put it so the only enemy is pretty much indoctrination. Oh wait. ;) Think about it. All we are doing is fighting ourselves. Beings changed to fight for the enemy. We rarely do actually go against the main enemy. 

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BleedingUranium wrote...

TJBartlemus wrote...

What did you guys think of the links I gave? (anyone???)


Sorry, I thought they were cool! Posted Image

YAY top of 1500! Posted Image

Second! Anyway I'm gonna go get the lone-wolf title! Bye.

Edit: Fourth... And I did like those links (the Facebook one about the series!)

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Hrothdane wrote...

ZerebusPrime wrote...

I just want to step back and reflect for a moment. I posted the idea about Anderson being indoctrinated somewhere in the middle of the second Indoctrination thread. I do not claim to be the first person to come to that conclusion, but it's sure interesting to see just how much more weight that idea holds now than it did then.

London is a trap. A smarter approach would have been to use boarding teams to infiltrate the Citadel. The whole of Hammer could have been directed to cut their way into the structure however possible.


A shame how that can happen. Sometimes the thread just moves too fast and the right people don't see your post.

I know that feeling :(


I have had more than a few posts like that.  This wasn't one of them!  It was read, quoted, and requoted for a few pages.  Since then, I've watched as people heard from people who had read that post (and people who heard from people who heard from people who read my post) and combined with people who had also come to the conclusion on their own or heard it from other people who so ond and so forth.  The idea has steadily gained momentum, albeit not as quickly as the Turn Coates Theory.

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Restrider wrote...

I'd also like to promote my little side thread.
It has not necessarily something to do with IT, but is also a neat little topic, imho.


I voted for the Geth Posted Image

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401 Kill wrote...
Anyway I'm gonna go get the lone-wolf title! Bye.


Good luck!

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@TJ: The website looks simple but the presentation is clear and readable.

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Holy crap! My sister is on TV!

I'll be back in a little bit. I need to see this.

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estebanus wrote...

Holy crap! My sister is on TV!

Really?

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estebanus wrote...

Holy crap! My sister is on TV!

I'll be back in a little bit. I need to see this.

1 in 4 people will be on T.V in their life-time.

No really that sounds pretty cool!

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paxxton wrote...

@TJ: The website looks simple but the presentation is clear and readable.


It's only a week old. Still figuring how I want it...but thanks!!! Also remember...only forum totally welcome to IT and 100% troll free. Please sign up!! (Just press "register")

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401 Kill wrote...

estebanus wrote...

Holy crap! My sister is on TV!

I'll be back in a little bit. I need to see this.

1 in 4 people will be on T.V in their life-time.

No really that sounds pretty cool!


When my father was in the military he was on TV several times. Once on a daily talk show and another on a Nova episode. (Plus several other times) He wasn't even a high rank either.

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ZerebusPrime wrote...
 the Turn Coates Theory.

Turn Coats very good very good.  Excellent.

In the room where you speak to Anderson, there are newspaper shards falling through the roof, out of the sky.  They pass straight through the floor.  Could be a clipping issue but there are lots of these and imo they are intentional.  There's something similar with the kid at the start.

On the newspaper cuttings, there appear to be images of a girl and a boy.

In the sky, very high up, a Kodiac shuttle is just floating.  What's going on?  Where are we?  Still in the Normandy?

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Okay guys/gals.
I'd like you to think about one of the concepts in the list where I can fit in Anderson's behaviour in London (give me some good links/hints) and where I can fit in the datapad that shows that the beam may be a huge con.

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Something just seems off

He said the Leviathan gave them form, I gave them function, they gave me purpose.


That's just odd. They gave him purpose? So he harvested the first Reaper on a whim?

I find it hard to believe the AI created fake Reapers shaped like Leviathan. And if it wasn't shaped like Leviathan and not a sentient entity....what exactly is Reaper about it?

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spotlessvoid wrote...

Something just seems off

He said the Leviathan gave them form, I gave them function, they gave me purpose.


That's just odd. They gave him purpose? So he harvested the first Reaper on a whim?

I find it hard to believe the AI created fake Reapers shaped like Leviathan. And if it wasn't shaped like Leviathan and not a sentient entity....what exactly is Reaper about it?

Harbinger was a proof of concept, to see if harvesting was even possible. It was perfect and the Intelligence went on a killing madness.

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Then why doesnt he just say first Reaper? Most Reapers are true Reapers. Even the lil' ones

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Ladies and Gentlemen,
the results for the seventh poll are out. The list has been updated and I would like to encourage you to participate at the eigth poll and my long-time survey about your choice at your first playthrough. Spread the word!
I also made another survey on a totally unrelated topic that still needs to be resolved.

And please think about a way to incorporate Anderson's behaviour in London and the datapad hinting that the beam is a huge con into one of the IT's Top Ten points. I'd also appreciate it, if you could provide me with links.
I am out for today.
I guess by the time I'll come back, I'll have to read through 20 pages.
Good fight, good night.

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spotlessvoid wrote...

Something just seems off

He said the Leviathan gave them form, I gave them function, they gave me purpose.


That's just odd. They gave him purpose? So he harvested the first Reaper on a whim?

I find it hard to believe the AI created fake Reapers shaped like Leviathan. And if it wasn't shaped like Leviathan and not a sentient entity....what exactly is Reaper about it?


Maybe the Reapers were initially Synthetic versions of the Leviathans built by the Leviathans.  Like we have humanoid synthetics, their synthetics would have resembled themselves.  They could have been like soldiers, sent out to space to find civilisations for them to round up, so that they could pay tribute.

Maybe the Kid was given control of them, to stop civilisations becoming to advanced and building their own AIs.  And eventually, the Kid turned their own logic against them, and used their own Synthetics to make the first of many True Reapers, synthesising the organic and the synthetic for the first time (in building the Harbinger). 

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spotlessvoid wrote...

Then why doesnt he just say first Reaper? Most Reapers are true Reapers. Even the lil' ones

Maybe he tried several times on different species and it failed but went well with Leviathans. Or he wanted to honor his creators by considering Harbinger the first true Reaper.

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Or true meaning the model Reaper.

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spotlessvoid wrote...

Something just seems off

He said the Leviathan gave them form, I gave them function, they gave me purpose.


That's just odd. They gave him purpose? So he harvested the first Reaper on a whim?

I find it hard to believe the AI created fake Reapers shaped like Leviathan. And if it wasn't shaped like Leviathan and not a sentient entity....what exactly is Reaper about it?


Before it made the first Reaper the Intelligence created an army of paws that searched the galaxy gathering data.
From that data it came out with a solution (purpose), it created Harbinger (form) to solve the supposed problem (function).

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TJBartlemus wrote...

401 Kill wrote...

estebanus wrote...

Holy crap! My sister is on TV!

I'll be back in a little bit. I need to see this.

1 in 4 people will be on T.V in their life-time.

No really that sounds pretty cool!


When my father was in the military he was on TV several times. Once on a daily talk show and another on a Nova episode. (Plus several other times) He wasn't even a high rank either.

What rank was your father, if you don't mind me asking? My sister is currently a primary lieutenant, but she's well on her way to a promotion.
In that interview I just saw, she was simply talking about what exactly she and her fellow soldiers were doing down there in Cyprus, you know, training programs and such.

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Though FFZero thinks it's rather Blackfriars Bridge, hard to tell, but in any case that's about the spot.

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Restrider wrote...


Ladies and Gentlemen,
the results for the seventh poll are out. The list has been updated and I would like to encourage you to participate at the eigth poll and my long-time survey about your choice at your first playthrough. Spread the word!
I also made another survey on a totally unrelated topic that still needs to be resolved.

And please think about a way to incorporate Anderson's behaviour in London and the datapad hinting that the beam is a huge con into one of the IT's Top Ten points. I'd also appreciate it, if you could provide me with links.
I am out for today.
I guess by the time I'll come back, I'll have to read through 20 pages.
Good fight, good night.



wait, what is the datapad hinting that the beam is a huge con?