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Was the Ending a Hallucination? - Indoctrination Theory Mark III!


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paxxton

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401 Kill wrote...

paxxton wrote...

I'm almost certain we'll get to know more about the Crucible's purpose and it's connection to Omega in the upcoming DLC.

Maybe Cerberus could be viewing Collector tech that could help with the Crucible?

I think that Omega and the Crucible work in conjunction, like poles in a battery, they make "current" flow.

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So I finished reading Retribution at around 4:30 this afternoon. I really enjoyed it, and it does provide me with some deeper insight on Reaper indoctrination and the ending stuff.

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magnetite wrote...

So I finished reading Retribution at around 4:30 this afternoon. I really enjoyed it, and it does provide me with some deeper insight on Reaper indoctrination and the ending stuff.

The more stuff you play, read, watch, etc. your aresnal of knowledge grows as well. ITers have armed ourselves with much information. The ending is designed for people who pay attention.

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magnetite wrote...

So I finished reading Retribution at around 4:30 this afternoon. I really enjoyed it, and it does provide me with some deeper insight on Reaper indoctrination and the ending stuff.


And how BW should have used that Kai Leng lol

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Seival...
You admittedly hate IT. You consider a compromise to be us agreeing to some theory you've created that you acknowledge not even believing in.
Heres a compromise for you:

Believe whatever you want and let us believe whatever we want.

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lol
seival: I want to resolve this without any unneeded emotions

then just leave lol

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Yep. I'm thinking about buying some of the comics and reading those. I didn't find any of them at the bookstore (Chapters), but maybe they didn't sell them there. Or maybe I wasn't looking for them in the right section.

And how BW should have used that Kai Leng lol


I agree, although, it's a bit late for that. 

Modifié par magnetite, 21 octobre 2012 - 01:21 .


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Shepard's armor in breath scene looks just like his armor post Harbinger blast. Even if that part isn't real, that armor doesn't seem like what it would like after a shuttle crash. Seems unlikely the indoctrination attempt starts any earlier than Harbinger's blast. The damage is pretty serious

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spotlessvoid wrote...

Seival...
You admittedly hate IT. You consider a compromise to be us agreeing to some theory you've created that you acknowledge not even believing in.
Heres a compromise for you:

Believe whatever you want and let us believe whatever we want.

And herein lies the real problem Seival fails to acknowledge, everyone wants to be right and wants to one-up the other for the sake of saying "I told you so", EVEN if it means that a game would be reduced to poor writing/lore breaking choices or that the company would die because YES people actually do take this habit that far.

WOW, IT is not actually the problem? Who could have known!

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spotlessvoid wrote...

Seival...
You admittedly hate IT. You consider a compromise to be us agreeing to some theory you've created that you acknowledge not even believing in.
Heres a compromise for you:

Believe whatever you want and let us believe whatever we want.


Sure. This is were we are right now...

...But this is called postponing the solution. And I think it can't end well. Too many examples in RL when postponing doesn't end well. I really don't want to see new waves of hate and holy wars (both on BSN and out of it) each time new ME3 patch or DLC comes out. We all know that most of holy wars are about conventional victory and IT. Only these two topics cause all the trouble in fact.

...This is just my opinion of course, but time will tell if I was right or not.

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spotlessvoid wrote...

Seival...
You admittedly hate IT. You consider a compromise to be us agreeing to some theory you've created that you acknowledge not even believing in.
Heres a compromise for you:

Believe whatever you want and let us believe whatever we want.

This would be fine if your faction wasn't repeatedly demanding acknowledgement in coming DLC/ME4.

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We're supposed to argue over the ending...
That's the point...

You guys are indoctrinated...
And you are blissfully unaware of it...

You're supposed to be all "No! I'm in Control! Nobody is telling me what to do!"

And we're all supposed to be like "Listen to yourself! You're indoctrinated!"

Modifié par Bill Casey, 21 octobre 2012 - 01:40 .


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Xil don't ****** me off right now. This is serious I done this crap before and it didn't end well. So don't incourage Servial please don't I have tried this and it failed.

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lol masster chill out you take stuff way too seriously. For that matter Seival does too. You guys act like a few people arguing on bsn is the end of the world.

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plfranke wrote...

lol masster chill out you take stuff way too seriously. For that matter Seival does too. You guys act like a few people arguing on bsn is the end of the world.


Isn't that what Forums are for?

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Plfranke where you here when I was creating a way to get anti, and ITers to unite. It didn't go well, infact it caused a huge flame war. So I am not chilling out. It's bad Servial is called and idiot in both Anti, and ITer threads. I am trying to tell him to not do this. I always tell people that he is not, but this...I have to snap him out of it.

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BansheeOwnage wrote...

Seival wrote...

...I created such poll. All pro-IT-ers and anti-IT-ers could vote, if they really interested in resolving the IT situation once and for all. And I'm afraid there is no other way to resolve the situation completely.

There is another solution.

I'm on top! (No, that's not the solution. Not yet anyway!)

Your post changed the pagenumber, created new possibilities, but you can't make them happen :P

Also I just remembered:
Guardian: "The fact that you are standing here, the first organic ever, proofs it, but it also proofs my solution wont work anymore."
Shep: "So now what?"
Low EMS Guardian: "That depends on you."
High EMS Guaridan: "We find a new solution."

It's interesting how in low EMS it depends on Shepard as in did he destroy the Collector base or not, and how "we find a new solution" in that context maybe not just refers to the Guardian and the Reapers but Shep included.

Modifié par MegumiAzusa, 21 octobre 2012 - 02:11 .


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Bill Casey wrote...

We're supposed to argue over the ending...
That's the point...

You guys are indoctrinated...
And you are blissfully unaware of it...

You're supposed to be all "No! I'm in Control! Nobody is telling me what to do!"

And we're all supposed to be like "Listen to yourself! You're indoctrinated!"

Yeah, he's right. Why would they want speculations if there was nothing to speculate about?

Moreover, if they want us to speculate, why are you trying to stop us?

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Because... he needs you to believe...

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plfranke wrote...

lol masster chill out you take stuff way too seriously. For that matter Seival does too. You guys act like a few people arguing on bsn is the end of the world.


Well, it IS year 2012.

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MegumiAzusa wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

Seival wrote...

...I created such poll. All pro-IT-ers and anti-IT-ers could vote, if they really interested in resolving the IT situation once and for all. And I'm afraid there is no other way to resolve the situation completely.

There is another solution.

I'm on top! (No, that's not the solution. Not yet anyway!)

You post changed the pagenumber, created new possibilities, but you can't make them happen :P

Also I just remembered:
Guardian: "The fact that you are standing here, the first organic ever, proofs it, but it also proofs my solution wont work anymore."
Shep: "So now what?"
Low EMS Guardian: "That depends on you."
High EMS Guaridan: "We find a new solution."

It's interesting how in low EMS it depends on Shepard as in did he destroy the Collector base or not, and how "we find a new solution" in that context maybe not just refers to the Guardian and the Reapers but Shep included.

Hey that makes more sense than what the kid said.

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Bill Casey wrote...

Because... he needs you to believe...

Our belief is... not... required?

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ThisOneIsPunny wrote...

spotlessvoid wrote...

Seival...
You admittedly hate IT. You consider a compromise to be us agreeing to some theory you've created that you acknowledge not even believing in.
Heres a compromise for you:

Believe whatever you want and let us believe whatever we want.

And herein lies the real problem Seival fails to acknowledge, everyone wants to be right and wants to one-up the other for the sake of saying "I told you so", EVEN if it means that a game would be reduced to poor writing/lore breaking choices or that the company would die because YES people actually do take this habit that far.

WOW, IT is not actually the problem? Who could have known!

It's weird. I'd much prefer the awesome and non-lore-breaking IT to bad writing, even if that means I was wrong.

You are arrogant Shepard. You will learn.

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Humakt83 wrote...

plfranke wrote...

lol masster chill out you take stuff way too seriously. For that matter Seival does too. You guys act like a few people arguing on bsn is the end of the world.


Well, it IS year 2012.

Don't make me bring Neil deGrasse Tyson into this

Modifié par Greylycantrope, 21 octobre 2012 - 01:54 .


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spotlessvoid wrote...

Awesome, I've got MB and BT speculating with me!

So what exactly is the crucible? Is it a real Super Weapon? Maybe it's only function is to get Shepard to walk into the beam.


They've been setting this up all along

" The ****'s chess, it ain't checkers!"


Of course, if the crucible isn't a super weapon...how the hell do we beat the Reapers?


I think that facility near Rio is building something that could save us, or at least give us an edge. You know how everyone's always saying we can't build our own mass relays? And how still using them is developing along the paths the Reapers desire? And how at the end of ME1 we use a secret non-Reaper relay to get into the Citadel? Yeah...