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[CmdrShep80]

Hrothdane wrote...

ZerebusPrime wrote...

I just want to step back and reflect for a moment. I posted the idea about Anderson being indoctrinated somewhere in the middle of the second Indoctrination thread. I do not claim to be the first person to come to that conclusion, but it's sure interesting to see just how much more weight that idea holds now than it did then.

London is a trap. A smarter approach would have been to use boarding teams to infiltrate the Citadel. The whole of Hammer could have been directed to cut their way into the structure however possible.

A shame how that can happen. Sometimes the thread just moves too fast and the right people don't see your post.

I know that feeling

I do too.  Sometimes it takes a repost.  Other times it takes a few people to go back where they left off to get to it.  Usually when I see the thread it's close to 10 pages from where I last left off

[CmdrShep80]

So I did what everyone said to do, update the individual add ons.  Mind you I've only updated the main game and dl all the dlcs.  So out of all the add ons,

Earth - up to date
Firefight - had a 17.84 MB update
From Ashes - up to date
Groundside Resistance - up to date
Leviathan - up to date
M55 Argus Assault Rifle - couldn't find a way to update anything
Mass Effect 3 Soundtrack - 742.59 MB update
N7 Collector's Edition Materials - up to date
Rebellion - up to date
Resurgance - up to date
Retaliation - up to date

I wonder what was in the updated materials, particularly for the soundtrack?

[MegumiAzusa]

BansheeOwnage wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

Seival wrote...

...I created such poll. All pro-IT-ers and anti-IT-ers could vote, if they really interested in resolving the IT situation once and for all. And I'm afraid there is no other way to resolve the situation completely.

There is another solution.

I'm on top! (No, that's not the solution. Not yet anyway!)

Your post changed the pagenumber, created new possibilities, but you can't make them happen

Also I just remembered:
Guardian: "The fact that you are standing here, the first organic ever, proofs it, but it also proofs my solution wont work anymore."
Shep: "So now what?"
Low EMS Guardian: "That depends on you."
High EMS Guaridan: "We find a new solution."

It's interesting how in low EMS it depends on Shepard as in did he destroy the Collector base or not, and how "we find a new solution" in that context maybe not just refers to the Guardian and the Reapers but Shep included.

Hey that makes more sense than what the kid said.

I dislike how the second part of the post isn't picked up though

[MegumiAzusa]

CmdrShep80 wrote...

So I did what everyone said to do, update the individual add ons.  Mind you I've only updated the main game and dl all the dlcs.  So out of all the add ons,

Earth - up to date
Firefight - had a 17.84 MB update
From Ashes - up to date
Groundside Resistance - up to date
Leviathan - up to date
M55 Argus Assault Rifle - couldn't find a way to update anything
Mass Effect 3 Soundtrack - 742.59 MB update
N7 Collector's Edition Materials - up to date
Rebellion - up to date
Resurgance - up to date
Retaliation - up to date

I wonder what was in the updated materials, particularly for the soundtrack?

Sounds more like file corruption for me. Never had a case where I had to update manually, and I never had any updates shown for these dlcs.

Modifié par MegumiAzusa, 21 octobre 2012 - 02:16 .

[FifthBeatle]

BleedingUranium wrote...

spotlessvoid wrote...

Awesome, I've got MB and BT speculating with me!

So what exactly is the crucible? Is it a real Super Weapon? Maybe it's only function is to get Shepard to walk into the beam.


They've been setting this up all along

" The ****'s chess, it ain't checkers!"


Of course, if the crucible isn't a super weapon...how the hell do we beat the Reapers?

I think that facility near Rio is building something that could save us, or at least give us an edge. You know how everyone's always saying we can't build our own mass relays? And how still using them is developing along the paths the Reapers desire? And how at the end of ME1 we use a secret non-Reaper relay to get into the Citadel? Yeah... 

Well, we do know that someone visted Ilos after Shepard went there. So it seems reasonable that they studied the Conduit. 

Personally, the Crucible is just too suspicous to be taken as given. The name alone signals that is so much more than just a battery. 

[CmdrShep80]

MegumiAzusa wrote...

CmdrShep80 wrote...

So I did what everyone said to do, update the individual add ons.  Mind you I've only updated the main game and dl all the dlcs.  So out of all the add ons,

Earth - up to date
Firefight - had a 17.84 MB update
From Ashes - up to date
Groundside Resistance - up to date
Leviathan - up to date
M55 Argus Assault Rifle - couldn't find a way to update anything
Mass Effect 3 Soundtrack - 742.59 MB update
N7 Collector's Edition Materials - up to date
Rebellion - up to date
Resurgance - up to date
Retaliation - up to date

I wonder what was in the updated materials, particularly for the soundtrack?

Sounds more like file corruption for me. Never had a case where I had to update manually, and I never had any updates shown for these dlcs.

I know neither did I but I think it was Restrider who said click on each one and try to update manually because he had an update in them.

[spotlessvoid]

The entire purpose of the Beam is that it's for Shepard.

The Reapers need a willing and worthy organic to become the mind of a Harbinger class Reaper. By getting high enough ems, Shepard proves his worth. The only thing left is to see if he will willingly submit to Harbinger. Choosing synthesis is the ultimate betrayal of organic life and means becoming one with the Reapers. Like what happens with Saren
Thinking you can control the Reapers is ludicrous. Choosing that means you still think you can come out on top. You are not ready to become an autonomous Reaper mind. You are however already partially indoctrinated, and the vices will tighten. Like what happens with TIM
Destroy is understanding that you must end the Reapers no matter what. You refuse to submit and know the danger of the Reapers. Like everyone who isn't indoctrinated.

Synthesis is in the middle and looks like the beam. Shepard having to both prove his worth and submit to the Reapers before they upload his mind to become the new Reaper by having him walk into the beam makes sense of several things.
Like the crucible plans being allowed to continue to exist. Or the Reapers being so nonchalant about the crucible being built and deployed. It also makes sense of Harbinger making sure he kills everyone but Shepard during the beam run, or not turning it off during Hammers attack. The Beam was always meant for him. He just needed to be ready to submit.

Synthesis : Become a Reaper
Control: Become Indoctrinated
Destroy: Breathe !
Low Ems control: You already went down the path by saving the Collector base and you have not proven worthy. Become Indoctrinated. Or husked.
Low Ems destroy: You suck, and have my permission to die.

Ultra Nihilistic Alternative options
Synthesis: Become Reaper
Control: Harbiner assumes control using your implants
Destroy: Become Indoctrinated. Now take a breath and go do some damage!
Low EMS control: Husk
Low EMS destroy: Die. Already told you

So what about refuse? Still not sure. Better hope for puzzle theory Shepard.

The Crucible (the red herring) is perhaps nothing more than a pointless and massive waste of time and resources, put into play just to keep organics focused on anything but directly confronting the Reapers. Its also how the Reapers accomplish getting Shepard to the Beam so he can be tested.

The driving thing behind the theory is that Synthesis is obviously horrible, requires higher ems, looks like and is in the middle position like the Beam. Still need to work out the details and would love any feedback or obliteration of this idea.

Modifié par spotlessvoid, 21 octobre 2012 - 02:52 .

[spotlessvoid]

BleedingUranium wrote...

spotlessvoid wrote...

Awesome, I've got MB and BT speculating with me!

So what exactly is the crucible? Is it a real Super Weapon? Maybe it's only function is to get Shepard to walk into the beam.


They've been setting this up all along

" The ****'s chess, it ain't checkers!"


Of course, if the crucible isn't a super weapon...how the hell do we beat the Reapers?

I think that facility near Rio is building something that could save us, or at least give us an edge. You know how everyone's always saying we can't build our own mass relays? And how still using them is developing along the paths the Reapers desire? And how at the end of ME1 we use a secret non-Reaper relay to get into the Citadel? Yeah... 

Might be why the crucible was put in play, to divert us from coming up with a real solution

[plfranke]

spotlessvoid wrote...

BleedingUranium wrote...

spotlessvoid wrote...

Awesome, I've got MB and BT speculating with me!

So what exactly is the crucible? Is it a real Super Weapon? Maybe it's only function is to get Shepard to walk into the beam.


They've been setting this up all along

" The ****'s chess, it ain't checkers!"


Of course, if the crucible isn't a super weapon...how the hell do we beat the Reapers?

I think that facility near Rio is building something that could save us, or at least give us an edge. You know how everyone's always saying we can't build our own mass relays? And how still using them is developing along the paths the Reapers desire? And how at the end of ME1 we use a secret non-Reaper relay to get into the Citadel? Yeah... 

Might be why the crucible was put in play, to divert us from coming up with a real solution

I've thought of this before, but we only find the crucible at the very last minute. If we spent our entire cycle diverting all our resources to the crucible then that would be something, but what solution could there possibly be when the Reapers are already in the galaxy?

[ZerebusPrime]

Something just hit me.

Remember how the Decision Chamber looks like a Dialogue Wheel?

Remember the lack of Middle options on the Dialogue Wheel throughout most of the game?

Did the lack of middle options make you miss them and maybe wish you could take a middle road?

They were buttering us up for Synthesis from the very start.

Modifié par ZerebusPrime, 21 octobre 2012 - 03:06 .

[CmdrShep80]

ZerebusPrime wrote...

Something just hit me.

Remember how the Decision Chamber looks like a Dialogue Wheel?

Remember the lack of Middle options on the Dialogue Wheel throughout most of the game?

Did the lack of middle options make you miss them and maybe wish you could take a middle road?

They were buttering us up for Synthesis from the very start.

I think so too

[spotlessvoid]

@plfranke

Well I think the Reapers hate taking losses. The galaxy wasn't willing to believe in the Reapers until they actually show up.

[plfranke]

That's acceptable as if you were losing even one capital ship per harvest you wouldn't be gaining anything and you wouldn't be protecting organics either because they'd be lost eventually. So in order for the harvest to be perfect there would have to be no reaper losses at all.

[401 Kill]

plfranke wrote...

That's acceptable as if you were losing even one capital ship per harvest you wouldn't be gaining anything and you wouldn't be protecting organics either because they'd be lost eventually. So in order for the harvest to be perfect there would have to be no reaper losses at all.

Not only do they hate taking losses, they don't expect to have any. 
Think about it, they send one destroyer in to sabatoge the entire atmosphere of Tuchanka. They sent one Destroyer to Rannoch to defend their base there. If the Reapers were not so arrogant, they would have at least planned in the event that some loss occurred. They have no back-up plan. 

Modifié par 401 Kill, 21 octobre 2012 - 03:32 .

[Dwailing]

CmdrShep80 wrote...

ZerebusPrime wrote...

Something just hit me.

Remember how the Decision Chamber looks like a Dialogue Wheel?

Remember the lack of Middle options on the Dialogue Wheel throughout most of the game?

Did the lack of middle options make you miss them and maybe wish you could take a middle road?

They were buttering us up for Synthesis from the very start.

I think so too

And adding to this: remember what BioWare said in defence of the lack of a neutral option? I believe that it was that now that the Reapers are here, there's no time for compromise. People are either with Shepard or against him. And what is Synthesis? A compromise. I mean, at least with Control you're trying to prevent the Reapers from ever doing this again. In Synthesis, you're pretty much IGNORING the Reapers.

[401 Kill]

On a different note, Soloing Gold is so hard, it took me 73 minutes to beat 1 Gold match! I have one left for the Lone Wolf Title. That will be all.

[spotlessvoid]

Well theres no reason for the galaxy to build the crucible. They dont believe in Reapers. And the Reapers dont need them preoccupied until they show up anyways..

[Dwailing]

401 Kill wrote...

On a different note, Soloing Gold is so hard, it took me 73 minutes to beat 1 Gold match! I have one left for the Lone Wolf Title. That will be all.

That's nothing. I know a guy who soloed PLATINUM. That's right, he got the Lone Wolf banner with a PLATINUM solo. Be in awe.

[401 Kill]

spotlessvoid wrote...

Well theres no reason for the galaxy to build the crucible. They dont believe in Reapers. And the Reapers dont need them preoccupied until they show up anyways..

Take this idea and slap it on Refuse. There is no way that the next cycle can defeat the Reapers. The current cycle was even warned by the Protheans, and still, nobody listened!

[spotlessvoid]

Maybe the Reapers only really care about Harbinger and Sovereign class Reapers.
See my little theory above. Makes sense. Of course it also makes sense in IT that there are certain Reapers with"free will"and others who are slaves, synthetic, or not even sentient

[Big_Boss9]

401 Kill wrote...

On a different note, Soloing Gold is so hard, it took me 73 minutes to beat 1 Gold match! I have one left for the Lone Wolf Title. That will be all.

Use a Kroguard with Reegar on Geth/Glacier. You'll find yourself having much better results. Personally, I find the Ghost to be the best choice if you decide to take on platinum soloing, but your mileage may vary.

Dwailing wrote...

That's nothing. I know a guy who soloed PLATINUM. That's right, he got the Lone Wolf banner with a PLATINUM solo. Be in awe.

Nah, but the guy on BSN who soloed platinum with a volus adept is definitely a god amongst men.

Modifié par Big_Boss9, 21 octobre 2012 - 03:44 .

[401 Kill]

Dwailing wrote...

401 Kill wrote...

On a different note, Soloing Gold is so hard, it took me 73 minutes to beat 1 Gold match! I have one left for the Lone Wolf Title. That will be all.

That's nothing. I know a guy who soloed PLATINUM. That's right, he got the Lone Wolf banner with a PLATINUM solo. Be in awe.

*Bows down like Shepard in the desicion chamber*

"Oh, you want me to jump into the beam? Sure thing!"

[401 Kill]

Big_Boss9 wrote...

401 Kill wrote...

On a different note, Soloing Gold is so hard, it took me 73 minutes to beat 1 Gold match! I have one left for the Lone Wolf Title. That will be all.

Use a Kroguard with Reegar on Geth/Glacier. You'll find yourself having much better results. Personally, I find the Ghost to be the best choice for platinum soloing, but your mileage may vary.

I tried that but died on wave 3, Krogaurd vs Geth on Tuchanca with Hurricane worked for me.

[spotlessvoid]

Well maybe Liaras beacons are special and they make actual sense, unlike the Prothean ones which were designed just for Protheans. Why design something for future races that only your race can understand? Because.

[Dwailing]

spotlessvoid wrote...

Well maybe Liaras beacons are special and they make actual sense, unlike the Prothean ones which were designed just for Protheans. Why design something for future races that only your race can understand? Because.

I feel compelled to point out that the beacons were damaged (I believe). Also, remember that the Protheans thought they were going to come back. Remember the flashbacks on Eden Prime?

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Modifié par Dwailing, 21 octobre 2012 - 03:49 .