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Was the Ending a Hallucination? - Indoctrination Theory Mark III!


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Restrider wrote...

@ Banshee
Yeah, I got used to Garrus and Liara as my tag team. Don't know why.
Even when I replay the trilogy, I have to force myself to change it up, to get a different experience.
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Voted for the beam run. Though, the citadel is very odd as well.

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“You'll get answers to everything. That was one of the key things. Regardless
of how we did everything, we had to say, yes, we're going to provide
some answers to these people.”
- Casey Hudson

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The answer is "Bad Writing".
Or IT?

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Restrider wrote...

The answer is "Bad Writing".
Or IT?

I'm more inclined to believe the former than the latter.

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estebanus wrote...

Restrider wrote...

The answer is "Bad Writing".
Or IT?

I'm more inclined to believe the former than the latter.


:crying:

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estebanus wrote...

Restrider wrote...

The answer is "Bad Writing".
Or IT?

I'm more inclined to believe the former than the latter.

Bad writing makes less sense than the starkid's logic...

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“The team has been planning
for this for years, since the beginning of the Mass Effect franchise.
Largely the same team, most of the same leads have worked on this for
years and years. They’ve thought about [the ending] for years and years.
It’s not something they’ve had to solve in a week or a month even, but
over the course of five or ten years.”

- Ray Muzyka

So, they planned it for years...

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BansheeOwnage wrote...

estebanus wrote...

Restrider wrote...

The answer is "Bad Writing".
Or IT?

I'm more inclined to believe the former than the latter.

Bad writing makes less sense than the starkid's logic...

If the only alternative is the IT being true, then I suppose that bad writing wins for me.

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estebanus wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

estebanus wrote...

Restrider wrote...

The answer is "Bad Writing".
Or IT?

I'm more inclined to believe the former than the latter.

Bad writing makes less sense than the starkid's logic...

If the only alternative is the IT being true, then I suppose that bad writing wins for me.

Why? There is infinitely more evidence for IT. I am an evidence person.

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BansheeOwnage wrote...

“The team has been planning
for this for years, since the beginning of the Mass Effect franchise.
Largely the same team, most of the same leads have worked on this for
years and years. They’ve thought about [the ending] for years and years.
It’s not something they’ve had to solve in a week or a month even, but
over the course of five or ten years.”

- Ray Muzyka

So, they planned it for years...


Bioware never planned ahead in ME

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estebanus wrote...

HomesV500 wrote...

estebanus wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

Guys I have been wondering what if depending on your chcoies, How you treated your squadmates former, and now, and Paragon, or Renegade paths will effect Shepard from getting up from the rubble?

What if Bioware makes our LI cry when they see Shepard all... F*** up? Would you cry, or feel like killing Harbinger slowly for making you LI cry?

If Liara cries from seeing my Shepard hurt, then I seriously doubt her emotional stability. For god's sake, she recovered Shepard's corpes when it was nothing but iced meat and shattered bones! Seeing the love of her life a little banged up probably wouldn't affect her too much.

^ This Liara is mentally tough she'll just be happy to see Shepard alive.

Exactly. She'd be happy, not sad!

In that case, I'd go over and hug Harbinger! Posted Image
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BansheeOwnage wrote...

“The team has been planning
for this for years, since the beginning of the Mass Effect franchise.
Largely the same team, most of the same leads have worked on this for
years and years. They’ve thought about [the ending] for years and years.
It’s not something they’ve had to solve in a week or a month even, but
over the course of five or ten years.”

- Ray Muzyka

So, they planned it for years...

Bullsh*t. The lead writer even admitted that they hadn't already planned the entire storyline and ending for ME3 by the ending of ME1. The basics were there, as in the reapers invading, but nothing else.

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estebanus wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

“The team has been planning
for this for years, since the beginning of the Mass Effect franchise.
Largely the same team, most of the same leads have worked on this for
years and years. They’ve thought about [the ending] for years and years.
It’s not something they’ve had to solve in a week or a month even, but
over the course of five or ten years.”

- Ray Muzyka

So, they planned it for years...

Bullsh*t. The lead writer even admitted that they hadn't already planned the entire storyline and ending for ME3 by the ending of ME1. The basics were there, as in the reapers invading, but nothing else.

I guess we'll never know. What I do know is they planned a lot of over-arching plots a while in advance.

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BansheeOwnage wrote...

estebanus wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

estebanus wrote...

Restrider wrote...

The answer is "Bad Writing".
Or IT?

I'm more inclined to believe the former than the latter.

Bad writing makes less sense than the starkid's logic...

If the only alternative is the IT being true, then I suppose that bad writing wins for me.

Why? There is infinitely more evidence for IT. I am an evidence person.

That depends on how you view it. Ingame evidence dictates that you're right. However, if viewed from another perspective, those things may just as well appear as bad writing to other people, or inconsistency in the story.
However, BioWare's response to the IT has made it pretty clear. For me, at least.

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estebanus wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

estebanus wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

estebanus wrote...

Restrider wrote...

The answer is "Bad Writing".
Or IT?

I'm more inclined to believe the former than the latter.

Bad writing makes less sense than the starkid's logic...

If the only alternative is the IT being true, then I suppose that bad writing wins for me.

Why? There is infinitely more evidence for IT. I am an evidence person.

That depends on how you view it. Ingame evidence dictates that you're right. However, if viewed from another perspective, those things may just as well appear as bad writing to other people, or inconsistency in the story.
However, BioWare's response to the IT has made it pretty clear. For me, at least.

"Bioware" mostly meaning a couple of community managers. What I want to hear, is Casey Hudson (and or Mac Walters) come out and defend their "artistic vision". I want to hear from the almost totally silent writers. I want an end, once and for all.

Modifié par BansheeOwnage, 21 octobre 2012 - 09:15 .


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BansheeOwnage wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

Eryri wrote...

I thought so too. That weird little scene where Shepard sensed the presence of the beacon on Thessia seemed to be screaming foreshadowing that he / she was "The One (T.M.)", with some unique role to play. But if the literal endings are true, then we could have chucked any random organic down the chute to bring about the age of green sparkles.

Which is why it makes no sense that the kid would continue the cycle in refuse...

The Reaper noises take any credibility from that scene imo.

You mean SO BE IT?

Even though I loooove the smilie in that video and always start to laugh I was thinking about http://www.youtube.c...ggXsj0Bss#t=52s

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MegumiAzusa wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

Eryri wrote...

I thought so too. That weird little scene where Shepard sensed the presence of the beacon on Thessia seemed to be screaming foreshadowing that he / she was "The One (T.M.)", with some unique role to play. But if the literal endings are true, then we could have chucked any random organic down the chute to bring about the age of green sparkles.

Which is why it makes no sense that the kid would continue the cycle in refuse...

The Reaper noises take any credibility from that scene imo.

You mean SO BE IT?

Even though I loooove the smilie in that video and always start to laugh I was thinking about http://www.youtube.c...ggXsj0Bss#t=52s

I never heard that before. Huh.

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MaximizedAction wrote...

ZerebusPrime wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

Btw is it just me or are the 3 huge structures around the beam 3 Reapers who dug in? If yes it's like "Indoctrination for everyone!" 8D


Possibly.  Gotta love how the characters are just staring at the beam as though in a trance in this picture.


Assuming you're not joking.

Those outer spikes are pretty high.
If those are indeed Reaper capital ships then it's not the Sovereign class ones we've seen. Any Reapers from the end sequence of ME2 that have huuuge ass backs? Either there are Reapers who can extend their back (the Destroyer in London got massive gun on it, so it's possible).

But I think it wouldn't be a too big of a deal for the Reapers to just build that thing. After all, it could have the purpose of luring Shep there. That's a goal that's probably worth such an investment. :D

No I was not joking. Also think about it. Sovereign was about 2km in length, compare that to the Empire State Building which is merely 381m (or 443.2m if you add the tip), the WTC was 417/415m (or 526.7m) and the fin that is what we see here is about 1/3 of the Reapers size.
You could only argue that there are 3 smaller ones that look identical, though I agree I would just say they are downscaled.

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BansheeOwnage wrote...

"Bioware" mostly meaning a couple of community managers. What I want to hear, is Casey Hudson (and or Mac Walters) come out and defend their "artistic vision". I want to hear from the almost totally silent writers. I want an end, once and for all.


Hudson did issue one statement waaaay waaay back in what seemed like the 5th century BC.

They wanted the ending to be open to interpretation as well as to keep people talking. Mac wanted 'speculations for everyone. To them, every interpretation is valid.

They only thing bioware has vehemently denied is more post-ending DLC and now Shepard in ME4.

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BansheeOwnage wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

Eryri wrote...

I thought so too. That weird little scene where Shepard sensed the presence of the beacon on Thessia seemed to be screaming foreshadowing that he / she was "The One (T.M.)", with some unique role to play. But if the literal endings are true, then we could have chucked any random organic down the chute to bring about the age of green sparkles.

Which is why it makes no sense that the kid would continue the cycle in refuse...

The Reaper noises take any credibility from that scene imo.

You mean SO BE IT?

Even though I loooove the smilie in that video and always start to laugh I was thinking about http://www.youtube.c...ggXsj0Bss#t=52s

I never heard that before. Huh.

Impossiburu! posted it several times and I think to remember you even answered once. Guess you forgot about that :P

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MegumiAzusa wrote...

Impossiburu! posted it several times and I think to remember you even answered once. Guess you forgot about that :P

Strange. I don't usually forget something like that. :/

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Ithurael wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

"Bioware" mostly meaning a couple of community managers. What I want to hear, is Casey Hudson (and or Mac Walters) come out and defend their "artistic vision". I want to hear from the almost totally silent writers. I want an end, once and for all.


Hudson did issue one statement waaaay waaay back in what seemed like the 5th century BC.

They wanted the ending to be open to interpretation as well as to keep people talking. Mac wanted 'speculations for everyone. To them, every interpretation is valid.

They only thing bioware has vehemently denied is more post-ending DLC and now Shepard in ME4.

Yoy know what I want? I want ME4 to come out so we can see how many of the pre-release comments turn out to be false. I imagine a lot of people will be waiting for reviews before buying the next ME game...

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BansheeOwnage wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

Impossiburu! posted it several times and I think to remember you even answered once. Guess you forgot about that :P

Strange. I don't usually forget something like that. :/

For me it's interesting because it changes the view on two things.
1. It makes in my opinion pretty clear that the Beacon on Thessia is tainted by Reapers.
2. Notice what Liara says? "But now asari see everything as a cosmic whole. There is a universal energy from which all living things are formed." Synthesis anyone?

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BansheeOwnage wrote...

Ithurael wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

"Bioware" mostly meaning a couple of community managers. What I want to hear, is Casey Hudson (and or Mac Walters) come out and defend their "artistic vision". I want to hear from the almost totally silent writers. I want an end, once and for all.


Hudson did issue one statement waaaay waaay back in what seemed like the 5th century BC.

They wanted the ending to be open to interpretation as well as to keep people talking. Mac wanted 'speculations for everyone. To them, every interpretation is valid.

They only thing bioware has vehemently denied is more post-ending DLC and now Shepard in ME4.

Yoy know what I want? I want ME4 to come out so we can see how many of the pre-release comments turn out to be false. I imagine a lot of people will be waiting for reviews before buying the next ME game...


Yep, and now there's a rumor DA3 won't have a save-import

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