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[401 Kill]

D.Sharrah wrote...

paxxton wrote...

D.Sharrah wrote...

Been doing a playthrough to try and get set-up for Omega...is there a consensus on when "it will fit naturally with the current storyline" ...I was thinking about trying to have everything done up to Sanctuary...

Act 2 is the part Omega DLC should be played in.

Well I just finished the Citadel Coup attempt...but I still have so much time before Omega is released...I guess I could focus on MP...

Nooo! Get Tali on your squad right now!

[plfranke]

401 Kill wrote...

AresKeith wrote...

401 Kill wrote...

estebanus wrote...

Restrider wrote...
I have to say that ME 2 main plot was not the best of the whole tilogy.
Yet, the main plot is not what ME 2 is about.
ME 2 expands the universe vastly and shows us a lot of new places and deepens already known characters and introduces new characters adequately. That's what made ME 2 great.

Exactly. It was character-based, not story-based.

And they plan on removing the greatest charecter of them all in ME4. I don't buy it
If ME4 comes around and Shepard is not in it, I will say that they have no idea what they are doing, and give up on the Mass Effect series.
I have not given up on them yet.

How so?

Shepard is the face of Mass Effect. Shepard is the avatar of the player. I could never imagine a Mass Effect without Shepard, it will just sadden me. If they take away Shepard from the player, I don't even want to see it. It will not be a true Mass Effect game, along with the absence of Shepards squad.

If the story of Shepard is brought to a satisfying conclusion by the time mass effect 4 is released then the game can function without Shepard. If the breath scene is left the way it is and there is no expansion on end game content then no mass effect 4 cannot function without Shepard.

[estebanus]

BansheeOwnage wrote...

estebanus wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

estebanus wrote...

How can a Macguffin be seen as great writing? A weapon that up until the ending essentially is a long-lost reaper-off button?

EDIT: top. Meh.

Well, I agree that literal is terrible writing. But in IT, it is unknown if the crucible is actually an off button or not. There is ample foreshadowing that it's a trap.

A Macguffin is not always bad. A deus ex machina, if done properly, is not always bad (see Doctor Who). Also, we don't know for certain just WHAT the Crucible does. It might not be the Reaper off switch it seems to be.

In order for a macguffin to be good, it must be foreshadowed at least in some way. This didn't happen with the crucible. It got dumped right on our laps, completely outta the blue, right at the game's beginning.

Which would be totally, totally, awesome if it was a reaper trap.

Then it weren't a macguffin, and the galaxy royally f*cked.

[BansheeOwnage]

estebanus wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

D.Sharrah wrote...

Could be wrong...but I think its that you seem anti-IT now...whereas before you were a staucnh supporter...not that it's wrong - but sometimes change takes time to get used to...

Edit: 'd in so many ways...

Estebanus is just angry at ME I think. Much like I would be if the literal version proves true. But it hasn't yet.

I'm not angry at Mass Effect. I'm just angry in general, right now.

I thought so. You can talk to me about it, only if you want.

[BansheeOwnage]

plfranke wrote...

If the story of Shepard is brought to a satisfying conclusion by the time mass effect 4 is released then the game can function without Shepard. If the breath scene is left the way it is and there is no expansion on end game content then no mass effect 4 cannot function without Shepard.

Simply put, but accurate.

[BansheeOwnage]

401 Kill wrote...
Shepard is the face of Mass Effect. Shepard is the avatar of the player. I could never imagine a Mass Effect without Shepard, it will just sadden me. If they take away Shepard from the player, I don't even want to see it. It will not be a true Mass Effect game, along with the absence of Shepards squad.

If it's set a while in the future (I.E. no squad) then  and .

[AresKeith]

401 Kill wrote...

AresKeith wrote...

401 Kill wrote...

estebanus wrote...

Restrider wrote...
I have to say that ME 2 main plot was not the best of the whole tilogy.
Yet, the main plot is not what ME 2 is about.
ME 2 expands the universe vastly and shows us a lot of new places and deepens already known characters and introduces new characters adequately. That's what made ME 2 great.

Exactly. It was character-based, not story-based.

And they plan on removing the greatest charecter of them all in ME4. I don't buy it
If ME4 comes around and Shepard is not in it, I will say that they have no idea what they are doing, and give up on the Mass Effect series.
I have not given up on them yet.

How so?

Shepard is the face of Mass Effect. Shepard is the avatar of the player. I could never imagine a Mass Effect without Shepard, it will just sadden me. If they take away Shepard from the player, I don't even want to see it. It will not be a true Mass Effect game, along with the absence of Shepards squad.

I can understand that, they made Shepard a great character in Mass Effect. But if they continue on Shepards story even more it will grow stale over time.

My only issue about ME4 with no Shepard is how they ending it in ME3. Give Shepard a proper conclusion before you go on to another character years ahead

[estebanus]

plfranke wrote...

401 Kill wrote...

AresKeith wrote...

401 Kill wrote...

estebanus wrote...

Restrider wrote...
I have to say that ME 2 main plot was not the best of the whole tilogy.
Yet, the main plot is not what ME 2 is about.
ME 2 expands the universe vastly and shows us a lot of new places and deepens already known characters and introduces new characters adequately. That's what made ME 2 great.

Exactly. It was character-based, not story-based.

And they plan on removing the greatest charecter of them all in ME4. I don't buy it
If ME4 comes around and Shepard is not in it, I will say that they have no idea what they are doing, and give up on the Mass Effect series.
I have not given up on them yet.

How so?

Shepard is the face of Mass Effect. Shepard is the avatar of the player. I could never imagine a Mass Effect without Shepard, it will just sadden me. If they take away Shepard from the player, I don't even want to see it. It will not be a true Mass Effect game, along with the absence of Shepards squad.

If the story of Shepard is brought to a satisfying conclusion by the time mass effect 4 is released then the game can function without Shepard. If the breath scene is left the way it is and there is no expansion on end game content then no mass effect 4 cannot function without Shepard.

Apparently, ME4 will also be entirely different than ME3, or any of the other ones. The setting will be entirely different.
I really hope that if IT will be confirmed, then through a DLC for ME3. I'm still looking forward to the end of the DLC cycle and this supposed citadel DLC. I just don't want to pay an additional 60€ for an ending that should've been there in the first place.

[401 Kill]

BansheeOwnage wrote...

plfranke wrote...

If the story of Shepard is brought to a satisfying conclusion by the time mass effect 4 is released then the game can function without Shepard. If the breath scene is left the way it is and there is no expansion on end game content then no mass effect 4 cannot function without Shepard.

Simply put, but accurate.

Exactly.

Half a breath in rubble is not satisfying.

A house on Rannoch is.

[estebanus]

401 Kill wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

plfranke wrote...

If the story of Shepard is brought to a satisfying conclusion by the time mass effect 4 is released then the game can function without Shepard. If the breath scene is left the way it is and there is no expansion on end game content then no mass effect 4 cannot function without Shepard.

Simply put, but accurate.

Exactly.

Half a breath in rubble is not satisfying.

A house on Rannoch is.

Or at least a goddamn burial after finishing what you started. Or little blue babies. Both work for me.

[401 Kill]

estebanus wrote...

401 Kill wrote...

 

Apparently, ME4 will also be entirely different than ME3, or any of the other ones. The setting will be entirely different. 
I really hope that if IT will be confirmed, then through a DLC for ME3. I'm still looking forward to the end of the DLC cycle and this supposed citadel DLC. I just don't want to pay an additional 60€ for an ending that should've been there in the first place.

Oh my god I could not agree with you more. Then maybe ME4 would be playable.

[estebanus]

401 Kill wrote...

estebanus wrote...

401 Kill wrote...

 

Apparently, ME4 will also be entirely different than ME3, or any of the other ones. The setting will be entirely different. 
I really hope that if IT will be confirmed, then through a DLC for ME3. I'm still looking forward to the end of the DLC cycle and this supposed citadel DLC. I just don't want to pay an additional 60€ for an ending that should've been there in the first place.

Oh my god I could not agree with you more. Then maybe ME4 would be playable.

I'll buy it, regardless. But only if it isn't a prequel.

Modifié par estebanus, 21 octobre 2012 - 10:52 .

[estebanus]

BansheeOwnage wrote...

estebanus wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

D.Sharrah wrote...

Could be wrong...but I think its that you seem anti-IT now...whereas before you were a staucnh supporter...not that it's wrong - but sometimes change takes time to get used to...

Edit: 'd in so many ways...

Estebanus is just angry at ME I think. Much like I would be if the literal version proves true. But it hasn't yet.

I'm not angry at Mass Effect. I'm just angry in general, right now.

I thought so. You can talk to me about it, only if you want.

Not a big chance of you keeping me up any longer! It's almost 1:00 AM and I need to get up early tomorrow.

[BansheeOwnage]

estebanus wrote...

401 Kill wrote...

estebanus wrote...

401 Kill wrote...

 

Apparently, ME4 will also be entirely different than ME3, or any of the other ones. The setting will be entirely different. 
I really hope that if IT will be confirmed, then through a DLC for ME3. I'm still looking forward to the end of the DLC cycle and this supposed citadel DLC. I just don't want to pay an additional 60€ for an ending that should've been there in the first place.

Oh my god I could not agree with you more. Then maybe ME4 would be playable.

I'll buy it, regardless. But only if it isn't a prequel.

A prequel would be stupid.

[Restrider]

I know, I look like some spamming troll right now, but someone has to make the hard decisions:

Ladies and Gentlemen,
the results for the eigth poll are out. The list has been updated and I would like to encourage you to participate at the ninth poll and my long-time survey about your choice at your first playthrough. Spread the word!
I also made another survey on a totally unrelated topic that still needs to be resolved.

And please think about a way to incorporate Anderson's behaviour in London and the datapad hinting that the beam is a huge con into one of the IT's Top Ten points. I'd also appreciate it, if you could provide me with links.

I'm out.

Modifié par Restrider, 21 octobre 2012 - 10:56 .

[BansheeOwnage]

estebanus wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

estebanus wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

D.Sharrah wrote...

Could be wrong...but I think its that you seem anti-IT now...whereas before you were a staucnh supporter...not that it's wrong - but sometimes change takes time to get used to...

Edit: 'd in so many ways...

Estebanus is just angry at ME I think. Much like I would be if the literal version proves true. But it hasn't yet.

I'm not angry at Mass Effect. I'm just angry in general, right now.

I thought so. You can talk to me about it, only if you want.

Not a big chance of you keeping me up any longer! It's almost 1:00 AM and I need to get up early tomorrow.

Alright, goodnight then.  

[estebanus]

BansheeOwnage wrote...

estebanus wrote...

401 Kill wrote...

estebanus wrote...

401 Kill wrote...

 

Apparently, ME4 will also be entirely different than ME3, or any of the other ones. The setting will be entirely different. 
I really hope that if IT will be confirmed, then through a DLC for ME3. I'm still looking forward to the end of the DLC cycle and this supposed citadel DLC. I just don't want to pay an additional 60€ for an ending that should've been there in the first place.

Oh my god I could not agree with you more. Then maybe ME4 would be playable.

I'll buy it, regardless. But only if it isn't a prequel.

A prequel would be stupid.

More stupid than ME3, I'd imagine.

[401 Kill]

estebanus wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

estebanus wrote...

401 Kill wrote...

estebanus wrote...

401 Kill wrote...
 

Apparently, ME4 will also be entirely different than ME3, or any of the other ones. The setting will be entirely different. 
I really hope that if IT will be confirmed, then through a DLC for ME3. I'm still looking forward to the end of the DLC cycle and this supposed citadel DLC. I just don't want to pay an additional 60€ for an ending that should've been there in the first place.

Oh my god I could not agree with you more. Then maybe ME4 would be playable.

I'll buy it, regardless. But only if it isn't a prequel.

A prequel would be stupid.

More stupid than ME3, I'd imagine.

Assuming the endings are literal.

[BansheeOwnage]

401 Kill wrote...

estebanus wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

estebanus wrote...

401 Kill wrote...

estebanus wrote...

401 Kill wrote...
 

Apparently, ME4 will also be entirely different than ME3, or any of the other ones. The setting will be entirely different. 
I really hope that if IT will be confirmed, then through a DLC for ME3. I'm still looking forward to the end of the DLC cycle and this supposed citadel DLC. I just don't want to pay an additional 60€ for an ending that should've been there in the first place.

Oh my god I could not agree with you more. Then maybe ME4 would be playable.

I'll buy it, regardless. But only if it isn't a prequel.

A prequel would be stupid.

More stupid than ME3, I'd imagine.

Assuming the endings are literal.

Assuming that, much, much more stupid.

[Humakt83]

Some people have unhealthy fixation with Shepard and Normandy squadmates. I'm up for prequel, but not First-Contact War, that would be boring and it is already seen through comics and novel.

Let us control either Krogan or Asari and experience the Rachni Wars and Krogan Rebellions in a lot greater detail.

Screw humans.

[paxxton]

Humakt83 wrote...

Some people have unhealthy fixation with Shepard and Normandy squadmates. I'm up for prequel, but not First-Contact War, that would be boring and it is already seen through comics and novel.

Let us control either Krogan or Asari and experience the Rachni Wars and Krogan Rebellions in a lot greater detail.

Screw humans.

What about the period between Revelation and ME2? We could play as Anderson.

Modifié par paxxton, 21 octobre 2012 - 11:23 .

[BatmanTurian]

http://social.biowar...2120/2#14595477
check out how po'd HYR 2.0 got about me for when I went into his thread about why refusers should pick control. He had to b*tch about me in another thread, the one Seival made for " a truce between Anti and IT'ers. Called me a tool, said I was butthurt, then called me a child. Pot meet kettle.

Kid's just mad I blocked him and reported him.

Modifié par BatmanTurian, 21 octobre 2012 - 11:27 .

[TSA_383]

estebanus wrote...

401 Kill wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

plfranke wrote...

If the story of Shepard is brought to a satisfying conclusion by the time mass effect 4 is released then the game can function without Shepard. If the breath scene is left the way it is and there is no expansion on end game content then no mass effect 4 cannot function without Shepard.

Simply put, but accurate.

Exactly.

Half a breath in rubble is not satisfying.

A house on Rannoch is.

Or at least a goddamn burial after finishing what you started. Or little blue babies. Both work for me.

...What if they plan to have the "Shepard lives!" thing as a surprise you experience whilst playing as another character?
For example, the Normandy is MIA, you're tasked with tracking it down (not playing as shepard obviously), then when you find it you discover that the apparently-dead-twice hero of Earth is....alive?

Anyway, have I missed anything cool?

OH! Do we have anyone at Edmonton this weekend?

Modifié par TSA_383, 21 octobre 2012 - 11:28 .

[excelon]

Then Shepard can become a companion.

[TSA_383]

https://twitter.com/...6/photo/1/large
^ME panel going on just now - props to the Tali cosplayer, but seriously, do we have anyone there?