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AresKeith wrote...

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Oh cool the Krogan are taking out the Brutes. Awesome, Banshee vs Rachni!
Whoaaa, did you see those two freighters ram that Reaper!?
Etc etc...
And then...."Wake up"


Dammit!! Not again!

I just don't see the interest a year later. Except for pro-enders, who are already happy. So why bother pouring resources into something that will only make the fans who are already happy, happy?


and many IT'ers are happy as well, because they believe it is true. just because there are some who belive either IT is true or not, does no make it so.

and I have not met many (if any) literalists who is happy with the ending, they may not think IT is true, but they still the the endings are garbage.

in fact the only true happy ones are the very Passionate IT'ers...... 

...And Seival:sick:


Can anybody take Seival seriously after ME3?

He seemed good enough at the beginning, producing productive threads about the ending. Then, he created the control thread, which was his first step down the road of complete lunacy. He delved deeper and deeper into those realms, creating threads like the stargazer support thread, the Normandy crash scene support thread. By the time he created the 2nd ultimate endings support thread, there was nothing left of the old Seival.


Then his cult threads about converting "Anti-enders" into "Pro-enders" and moving all IT thread into fan creation forum

Ugh, I've seen him be far worse than that.

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Arrival. God, I hated that mission.


Arrival is awesome. :P

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Estebanus-

If I can paragon interrupt starchild and he just goes oh okay here's the keys to Harbinger, he tends to drift left, would I be happy?

No

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I don't get it. Whats the big deal? We knew right away, that if IT is any sort of true - we only get something of a confirmation at the end of DLC cycle. If at all in this game and not the next. Now - recent news - about Shepard not being in ME4 (or whatever it is) - if at all true - they are good news. If IT is any truth at all (I say "if" here, just being polite) - then this is them straight out telling us to chill and not to worry - it will be adressed in the DLC. Simple as that. So far only one DLC is out. And 1 - it is awesome, 2 - it is about nothing but indoctrination. Now I bet that Omega WILL not be any sort of IT reveal. But it will be close to it, and it will be awesome. And btw, while we're at it - name one ME DLC that isn't any good? (besides pinnacle - MP has that niche covered)

Arrival. God, I hated that mission.


whats wrong with you?????

It wasn't the story in the mission that bothered me, it was more the construction of the levels you had to figt through. It seemed more like a chore to me than anything else.

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Arrival was pretty Meh for me too, but it did have its good moments with the Stealth type mission

And I would have liked more temperary squadmates in ME3

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Estebanus-

If I can paragon interrupt starchild and he just goes oh okay here's the keys to Harbinger, he tends to drift left, would I be happy?

No

So your real beef with the ending is that the catalyst, this AI, actually exists?

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estebanus wrote...

Arrival. God, I hated that mission.


Arrival is my favourite ME DLC Posted Image

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Arrival was pretty Meh for me too, but it did have its good moments with the Stealth type mission

And I would have liked more temperary squadmates in ME3

According to the original leaked script of ME3, you were actually supposed to have several missions with former squaddies and other people.

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estebanus wrote...

AresKeith wrote...

Arrival was pretty Meh for me too, but it did have its good moments with the Stealth type mission

And I would have liked more temperary squadmates in ME3

According to the original leaked script of ME3, you were actually supposed to have several missions with former squaddies and other people.


Yea I knew about that, thats one of things that annoyed me about ME3

And them getting rid of Kal'Reegar and Shiala too

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]It wasn't the story in the mission that bothered me, it was more the construction of the levels you had to figt through. It seemed more like a chore to me than anything else.


In that case Leviathan was even worse - level design there is just plain terrible. 

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An AI badass and autonomous enough to usurp the Leviathan, create Harbinger, invent the Citadel and Relays...yet is stuck on some faulty programming loop? Lulz

Starchild being some idiot savant AI who can turn the entire galaxy on it's head yet is permanently frozen like some pc, stuck in a logical loop that's immediately retarded to anyone with two neurons .....that's just stupid.

EDI can rewrite her core programing, but the AI who radically altered the entire galaxy is just some sad little shackled bot?

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AresKeith wrote...

estebanus wrote...

AresKeith wrote...

Arrival was pretty Meh for me too, but it did have its good moments with the Stealth type mission

And I would have liked more temperary squadmates in ME3

According to the original leaked script of ME3, you were actually supposed to have several missions with former squaddies and other people.


Yea I knew about that, thats one of things that annoyed me about ME3

And them getting rid of Kal'Reegar and Shiala too


Shiala didn't die. Though I do wish she was in the game. Why couldn't we romance Shiala? Or Kasumi? Or Samara? Posted Image Those are literally my top three Posted Image

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estebanus wrote...
]It wasn't the story in the mission that bothered me, it was more the construction of the levels you had to figt through. It seemed more like a chore to me than anything else.


In that case Leviathan was even worse - level design there is just plain terrible. 

I don't think so.

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Estebanus-

If I can paragon interrupt starchild and he just goes oh okay here's the keys to Harbinger, he tends to drift left, would I be happy?

No

So your real beef with the ending is that the catalyst, this AI, actually exists?


Not my only beef. But yes, starchild, or more accurately his logic is beyond believability

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BleedingUranium wrote...

AresKeith wrote...

estebanus wrote...

AresKeith wrote...

Arrival was pretty Meh for me too, but it did have its good moments with the Stealth type mission

And I would have liked more temperary squadmates in ME3

According to the original leaked script of ME3, you were actually supposed to have several missions with former squaddies and other people.


Yea I knew about that, thats one of things that annoyed me about ME3

And them getting rid of Kal'Reegar and Shiala too


Shiala didn't die. Though I do wish she was in the game. Why couldn't we romance Shiala? Or Kasumi? Or Samara? Posted Image Those are literally my top three Posted Image

Because not every single damn thing out there wants to spread their legs for Shepard. The only one I'd liked to have romance would be Shiala, because a possibly romance was foreshadowed mightily in ME2.

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BleedingUranium wrote...

AresKeith wrote...

estebanus wrote...

AresKeith wrote...

Arrival was pretty Meh for me too, but it did have its good moments with the Stealth type mission

And I would have liked more temperary squadmates in ME3

According to the original leaked script of ME3, you were actually supposed to have several missions with former squaddies and other people.


Yea I knew about that, thats one of things that annoyed me about ME3

And them getting rid of Kal'Reegar and Shiala too


Shiala didn't die. Though I do wish she was in the game. Why couldn't we romance Shiala? Or Kasumi? Or Samara? Posted Image Those are literally my top three Posted Image


I know she didn't die, but I heard she was appear in the game but got cut out like Kal'Reegar

But they could bring Kal back with a Palaven themed DLC

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estebanus wrote...

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estebanus wrote...
]It wasn't the story in the mission that bothered me, it was more the construction of the levels you had to figt through. It seemed more like a chore to me than anything else.


In that case Leviathan was even worse - level design there is just plain terrible. 

I don't think so.


Specifically the mission to get Ann, that one was annoying. If ever a mission dragged on waaaay longer than it should have, it was that one.

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Estebanus-

If I can paragon interrupt starchild and he just goes oh okay here's the keys to Harbinger, he tends to drift left, would I be happy?

No

So your real beef with the ending is that the catalyst, this AI, actually exists?


Not my only beef. But yes, starchild, or more accurately his logic is beyond believability


Well, technically, the reapers always did say that their reasoning was beyond our understanding:wizard:

In all reality though. Ya his reasons are silly and non-sensical. However, the reapers are the bad guys, it is ok for them to have circular logic.

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I'd say Lotsb and Arrival are both incredible

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estebanus wrote...

spotlessvoid wrote...

Estebanus-

If I can paragon interrupt starchild and he just goes oh okay here's the keys to Harbinger, he tends to drift left, would I be happy?

No

So your real beef with the ending is that the catalyst, this AI, actually exists?


Not my only beef. But yes, starchild, or more accurately his logic is beyond believability

So theoretically, let's say that you have the possibility to utterly destroy its logic and tell it how flawed and corrupted its very being is to the point where it essentially becomes a laughing stock, and get a destroy ending where only the reapers are killed, and the geth and the rest of the galaxy isn't effected by it at all. Not only that, but you get a reunion scene as well.
You'd still hate the ending and call it complete bullcrap and that everything about it sucks?

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estebanus wrote...

BleedingUranium wrote...

AresKeith wrote...

estebanus wrote...

AresKeith wrote...

Arrival was pretty Meh for me too, but it did have its good moments with the Stealth type mission

And I would have liked more temperary squadmates in ME3

According to the original leaked script of ME3, you were actually supposed to have several missions with former squaddies and other people.


Yea I knew about that, thats one of things that annoyed me about ME3

And them getting rid of Kal'Reegar and Shiala too


Shiala didn't die. Though I do wish she was in the game. Why couldn't we romance Shiala? Or Kasumi? Or Samara? Posted Image Those are literally my top three Posted Image

Because not every single damn thing out there wants to spread their legs for Shepard. The only one I'd liked to have romance would be Shiala, because a possibly romance was foreshadowed mightily in ME2.


Then I vote we trade Allers, Ashley, and Jack for my three Posted Image

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BleedingUranium wrote...

estebanus wrote...

demersel wrote...

estebanus wrote...
]It wasn't the story in the mission that bothered me, it was more the construction of the levels you had to figt through. It seemed more like a chore to me than anything else.


In that case Leviathan was even worse - level design there is just plain terrible. 

I don't think so.


Specifically the mission to get Ann, that one was annoying. If ever a mission dragged on waaaay longer than it should have, it was that one.

I can agree with you on that one. That mission was definitely overdone. Shepard was way too close to Ann from the beginning of that mission for it to take that much time.

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I know she didn't die, but I heard she was appear in the game but got cut out like Kal'Reegar

But they could bring Kal back with a Palaven themed DLC


Oh, I didn't know that. That's really odd, actually, because her voice actress voices a lot of random people in ME3. Posted Image

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BleedingUranium wrote...

estebanus wrote...

BleedingUranium wrote...

AresKeith wrote...

estebanus wrote...

AresKeith wrote...

Arrival was pretty Meh for me too, but it did have its good moments with the Stealth type mission

And I would have liked more temperary squadmates in ME3

According to the original leaked script of ME3, you were actually supposed to have several missions with former squaddies and other people.


Yea I knew about that, thats one of things that annoyed me about ME3

And them getting rid of Kal'Reegar and Shiala too


Shiala didn't die. Though I do wish she was in the game. Why couldn't we romance Shiala? Or Kasumi? Or Samara? Posted Image Those are literally my top three Posted Image

Because not every single damn thing out there wants to spread their legs for Shepard. The only one I'd liked to have romance would be Shiala, because a possibly romance was foreshadowed mightily in ME2.


Then I vote we trade Allers, Ashley, and Jack for my three Posted Image

Samara alread turned you down, and a justicar tends to mean it when she says no, I reckon. Kasumi has never shown any form of romantic interest in Shepard whatsoever. She'd much rather go for Jacob. The only one that really would make sense would have to be Shiala.
So yeah, swap Allers for Shiala!

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Estebanus -

I'd still find it hard to believe he could be that retarded. There would still be massive plot holes. It would have been barely palatable as the launch ending. I'd be pretty disappointed that's the best they could do after a year. I'd also be convinced there never was a plan and everything they said before and after launch was a lie.

So, no. It would be the final nail

Modifié par spotlessvoid, 22 octobre 2012 - 07:43 .