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Was the Ending a Hallucination? - Indoctrination Theory Mark III!


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TJBartlemus wrote...

paxxton wrote...
Nothing can compare with the power emanating from this piece. Posted Image


You know what the first bit of that song reminds me of? This:



So BioWare did put in a Critical Mission failure but just subtly. :wizard:

Indeed. There are some coincidental similarities. Posted Image

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spotlessvoid wrote...

So if Omega is playable at any point like Leviathan, how much can they really reveal?

I hope it is only playable after the coup... That would seem like the appropriate time to do a Cerberus mission pack.

However, if you can play it at any time, there might be references to Mars. Not much about Cerberus could be revealed such early in the game. I don't see how they could make it work.

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Debate is on guys, will be back after :D

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Reposting that leak about Omega and Citadel DLCs TSA posted a couple days ago. Take this with a large bucket of salt. Posted Image

Also, correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't this from the same guy that had the whole list of rumoured upcoming DLC? And called the Retaliation DLC by name, as well as the Venom shotgun and Executioner pistol by name? If so, take it with a slightly smaller bucket of salt. Posted Image

I have to admit though, it certainly looks like a believable storyline. It even sets up Protheans in MP, and we are short a Sentinel and Vanguard. Posted Image

"Mass Effect 3 Omega DLC Spoilers

Shepard helps Aria T'Loak retake Omega
At the station suddenly attack us legions of Collectors.

Shepard learns the truth about Omega {station for the production collectors by reapers}
In addition, he finds the capsule of the Protheans.
We also learn why Illusion Man needed Omega
{transport the remains of the human reaper from outside the Omega 4 relay, and created the army on the basis of technology gained from the collectors base}
We will learn about the past Aria T'Loak about the death
of her daughter, and her former relationship with Wrex.
Harbinger will also return and Raymond Ashe

And much much more{A lot of the content}


Mass Effect 3 Guardian DLC Spoilers

The truth is close.Discover the mysteries and secrets
hidden in the heart of every civilization.

What is the Citadel. Is just the heart of every advanced
civilization?
Or perhaps lies in the interior of information that no
one has ever discovered?

Shepard gets into the mysteries part of the Citadel and
discover brutal truth about the Keepers and a trap which
is the Citadel.
The truth has never been so close.Go through the portal
and visit the dark world of Reapers{"Homeworld"}
{The place where the Keepers are created}
Learn more about indoctrination,discover how work the
collective intelligence and more.

Discover the truth in January



#38380
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TJBartlemus wrote...

paxxton wrote...
Nothing can compare with the power emanating from this piece. Posted Image


You know what the first bit of that song reminds me of? This:



So BioWare did put in a Critical Mission failure but just subtly. :wizard:


Seival has top comment Posted Image That guy is everywhere Posted Image

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NebuchadnezzaRT wrote...

Debate is on guys, will be back after :D

Oh yeah! I forgot about that! I shall also tune in!

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Aren't the Keepers made on the Citadel?

Also, anyone who calls TIM the illusion man instantly loses credibility.

What kind of trap can the citadel be other than what it already is?

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401 Kill wrote...

NebuchadnezzaRT wrote...

Debate is on guys, will be back after :D

Oh yeah! I forgot about that! I shall also tune in!

Here you go: http://www.youtube.com/user/politics

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paxxton wrote...

TJBartlemus wrote...

paxxton wrote...
Nothing can compare with the power emanating from this piece. Posted Image


You know what the first bit of that song reminds me of? This:



So BioWare did put in a Critical Mission failure but just subtly. :wizard:

Indeed. There are some coincidental similarities. Posted Image


IT is full of them...

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spotlessvoid wrote...

Aren't the Keepers made on the Citadel?

Also, anyone who calls TIM the illusion man instantly loses credibility.

What kind of trap can the citadel be other than what it already is?

Their phone/mobile device could have auto-corrected it:P. I typed in "what" and it corrected it to "Jawahar" once...

The keepers have been largely ignored since ME1, you would think that after the Reapers invaded, they would remove the keepers, due to Shepard knowing they work for the Reapers.

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BleedingUranium wrote...

Also, correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't this from the same guy that had the whole list of rumoured upcoming DLC? And called the Retaliation DLC by name, as well as the Venom shotgun and Executioner pistol by name? If so, take it with a slightly smaller bucket of salt. Posted Image


Retaliation was leaked first and separately...
This took that leak and added stuff to it...

Make it a super size family bucket of salt...

Modifié par Bill Casey, 23 octobre 2012 - 01:27 .


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401 Kill wrote...

spotlessvoid wrote...

Aren't the Keepers made on the Citadel?

Also, anyone who calls TIM the illusion man instantly loses credibility.

What kind of trap can the citadel be other than what it already is?

Their phone/mobile device could have auto-corrected it:P. I typed in "what" and it corrected it to "Jawahar" once...

The keepers have been largely ignored since ME1, you would think that after the Reapers invaded, they would remove the keepers, due to Shepard knowing they work for the Reapers.



I was thinking English might not be their first language, but yeah, could be a phone too Posted Image

Hopefully scanning the goddamn 21 Keepers will pay off Posted Image

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Bill Casey wrote...

BleedingUranium wrote...

Also, correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't this from the same guy that had the whole list of rumoured upcoming DLC? And called the Retaliation DLC by name, as well as the Venom shotgun and Executioner pistol by name? If so, take it with a slightly smaller bucket of salt. Posted Image


Retaliation was leaked first and separately...
This took that leak and added stuff to it...

Make it a super size family bucket of salt...


Hahaha, well it's interesting even if it turns out to be false Posted Image

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BleedingUranium wrote...

It even sets up Protheans in MP, and we are short a Sentinel and Vanguard. Posted Image.

Female Quarian Sentinel, and Prothean Vangaurd.

Problem solved;).

Modifié par 401 Kill, 23 octobre 2012 - 01:37 .


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BleedingUranium wrote...

Reposting that leak about Omega and Citadel DLCs TSA posted a couple days ago. Take this with a large bucket of salt. Posted Image

Also, correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't this from the same guy that had the whole list of rumoured upcoming DLC? And called the Retaliation DLC by name, as well as the Venom shotgun and Executioner pistol by name? If so, take it with a slightly smaller bucket of salt. Posted Image

I have to admit though, it certainly looks like a believable storyline. It even sets up Protheans in MP, and we are short a Sentinel and Vanguard. Posted Image

"Mass Effect 3 Omega DLC Spoilers

Shepard helps Aria T'Loak retake Omega
At the station suddenly attack us legions of Collectors.

Shepard learns the truth about Omega {station for the production collectors by reapers}
In addition, he finds the capsule of the Protheans.
We also learn why Illusion Man needed Omega
{transport the remains of the human reaper from outside the Omega 4 relay, and created the army on the basis of technology gained from the collectors base}
We will learn about the past Aria T'Loak about the death
of her daughter, and her former relationship with Wrex.
Harbinger will also return and Raymond Ashe

And much much more{A lot of the content}


Mass Effect 3 Guardian DLC Spoilers

The truth is close.Discover the mysteries and secrets
hidden in the heart of every civilization.

What is the Citadel. Is just the heart of every advanced
civilization?
Or perhaps lies in the interior of information that no
one has ever discovered?

Shepard gets into the mysteries part of the Citadel and
discover brutal truth about the Keepers and a trap which
is the Citadel.
The truth has never been so close.Go through the portal
and visit the dark world of Reapers{"Homeworld"}
{The place where the Keepers are created}
Learn more about indoctrination,discover how work the
collective intelligence and more.

Discover the truth in January


Now Omega looks like a good one. I might have to get it if reviews say it gives good info and doesn't just skirt the issue of things. I'm not nuts about two hours of fighting straight. Hopefully it will be a mix of stuff and options for conversations to learn things. Collectors back? Harbinger back? I was glad to be done with them. They creeped me out massively. Worse than reapers.

Are IT people from this thread going to start a spoiler thread with details about it? I'd prefer to read reviews from people here rather than others who just value something for gameplay rather than story.


Edited to add: IF Guardian is true and not over dramatized, it should trigger changes to the ending rather than just dialogue with the brat. Honestly, if you find secrets about civilizations and all that other stuff, wouldn't that change treatment of the citadel? It's probably going to be set up so you learn stuff but have no ability to change outcomes (obviously), but if you learn anything that hints to what you see the citadel as once you go through that beam, wouldn't that change things massively from Shepard's perspective? I'd be all over it as Shepard. I'd clear it of people and be looking for a way to keep it out of reaper control. So that's got to be way more exaggeration about Guardian than what we'll get because as they make it seem, it should put the citadel at a level of almost lockdown. And what happened to that data file from Vigil on Ilos (was it vigil?)? I'd hope someone got that and decided to get into the system and start investigating asap. Edi would be perfect. But nope. None of that will happen because it would be something smart shepard would do. Turn their weapon against them before they even know it.

Modifié par starlitegirlx, 23 octobre 2012 - 01:48 .


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Byne?

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 Actually I believe the DLC list was released before Retaliation was even announced. :?

Also...have you guys seen this yet?

http://social.biowar.../index/10973597

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TJBartlemus wrote...

 Actually I believe the DLC list was released before Retaliation was even announced. :?

Also...have you guys seen this yet?

http://social.biowar.../index/10973597

I thought it was out after Retaliation was announced/leaked but before the Groundside Resistance (which contained the Executioner and Venom) 

And hang on I'm checkin your link.

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NebuchadnezzaRT wrote...

TJBartlemus wrote...

 Actually I believe the DLC list was released before Retaliation was even announced. :?

Also...have you guys seen this yet?

http://social.biowar.../index/10973597

I thought it was out after Retaliation was announced/leaked but before the Groundside Resistance (which contained the Executioner and Venom) 

And hang on I'm checkin your link.


Nah, pretty sure before. Like a week before or so. Everyone dismissed it cause it seemed to lack legitness. Seems pretty real now. ;)

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TJBartlemus wrote...


Also...have you guys seen this yet?

http://social.biowar.../index/10973597

Wow, I completely forgot about that. I mean it's something Bioware has done before! Why are people so blind?

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TJBartlemus wrote...

 Actually I believe the DLC list was released before Retaliation was even announced. :?

Also...have you guys seen this yet?

http://social.biowar.../index/10973597

Oh my, that thread...

That is brilliant. Bioware are Masters of illusion. They have already done this before, said the ending was a "Perfect Illusion" yet so many people still think it is real!

Modifié par 401 Kill, 23 octobre 2012 - 02:07 .


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I mentioned before a loooong time ago how Bioware has always stuck a twist in their storylines.

KotOR- You are Revan, the previous Dark Lord of the Sith, Youtube search "KotOR Revelations" you should find my favorite in-game cutscene.

Jade Empire - Master Li, your lifelong mentor and teacher turns out to be the Great Emperor Sun Li, the Glorious Strategist. And he orchestrated the entire game so he could seize control (a 20 year long plan) Look up the ending where you submit to his foresight and let him eliminate you so his plan will become complete. Chilling ending.

And now Neverwinter Nights!

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NebuchadnezzaRT wrote...

I mentioned before a loooong time ago how Bioware has always stuck a twist in their storylines.

KotOR- You are Revan, the previous Dark Lord of the Sith, Youtube search "KotOR Revelations" you should find my favorite in-game cutscene.

Jade Empire - Master Li, your lifelong mentor and teacher turns out to be the Great Emperor Sun Li, the Glorious Strategist. And he orchestrated the entire game so he could seize control (a 20 year long plan) Look up the ending where you submit to his foresight and let him eliminate you so his plan will become complete. Chilling ending.

And now Neverwinter Nights!

401 Kill's hope increased by 10

But seriously, it would be the odd-one-out if IT turned out to be false. 

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Yes, the Neverwinter Nights ending.  Thing is, they forgot to add the part where Shepard breaks free of the illusion.... unless you count the breath scene.  Maybe they wanted to make an homage to NWN without copying it all the way?

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I feel like EA wouldn't let them alienate certain fans who "chose wrongly" so they had to "legitimize" those other endings. Leaving us to "speculate everywhere"

Mass Effect is too great a story for it not to follow the same rule as those other wonderful games. No wonder Gamble, Casey, and all of them get mad at people. Sometimes it feels so obvious...