Ce sujet est ferméerr...did you actually read the entire article? because they are essentially saying that Shepard is likely not even going to be involved in ME4.paxxton wrote...
They don't want to make ME4 without Shepard.estebanus wrote...
... What?paxxton wrote...
“We don’t want to make ‘Shepard 2′, or Mass Effect 4 with like, ‘oh there’s no more Shepard but you’re a soldier in the universe’."Arashi08 wrote...
Apparently IGN knows something about it.demersel wrote...
At this point - we don't know anything about next ME game. It may not be even called Mass Effect, let alone Mass Effect 4.
They often compared the war with the reapers with WWII. And you you know what? whe deffininly didn't get to fight much of the of the actual WAR. what we got is more like the initial blitzkrieg.
That proves Shepard is alive. Beyond any reasonable doubt.
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Posté 23 octobre 2012 - 06:11
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Posté 23 octobre 2012 - 06:12
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He might not be very prominent but he'll be featured in ME4.
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Posté 23 octobre 2012 - 06:14
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Yes, I read it. It was me who first brought the news to our thread a few days ago.Arashi08 wrote...
err...did you actually read the entire article? because they are essentially saying that Shepard is likely not even going to be involved in ME4.paxxton wrote...
They don't want to make ME4 without Shepard.estebanus wrote...
... What?paxxton wrote...
“We don’t want to make ‘Shepard 2′, or Mass Effect 4 with like, ‘oh there’s no more Shepard but you’re a soldier in the universe’."Arashi08 wrote...
Apparently IGN knows something about it.demersel wrote...
At this point - we don't know anything about next ME game. It may not be even called Mass Effect, let alone Mass Effect 4.
They often compared the war with the reapers with WWII. And you you know what? whe deffininly didn't get to fight much of the of the actual WAR. what we got is more like the initial blitzkrieg.
That proves Shepard is alive. Beyond any reasonable doubt.
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Posté 23 octobre 2012 - 06:15
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Arashi08 wrote...
err...did you actually read the entire article? because they are essentially saying that Shepard is likely not even going to be involved in ME4.
"more likely" - is it like 3 out of 4?
Or is it more like 9 out 10? 
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Posté 23 octobre 2012 - 06:17
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Shepard is going to appear in Omega DLC!
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Posté 23 octobre 2012 - 06:19
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about as likely as TIM being a giant metal cuttlefish.demersel wrote...
Arashi08 wrote...
err...did you actually read the entire article? because they are essentially saying that Shepard is likely not even going to be involved in ME4.
"more likely" - is it like 3 out of 4?
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Posté 23 octobre 2012 - 06:19
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Eerrr... You're confusing me, Paxxton. A lot. They said that there will be no more Shepard.paxxton wrote...
Yes, I read it. It was me who first brought the news to our thread a few days ago.Arashi08 wrote...
err...did you actually read the entire article? because they are essentially saying that Shepard is likely not even going to be involved in ME4.paxxton wrote...
They don't want to make ME4 without Shepard.estebanus wrote...
... What?paxxton wrote...
“We don’t want to make ‘Shepard 2′, or Mass Effect 4 with like, ‘oh there’s no more Shepard but you’re a soldier in the universe’."Arashi08 wrote...
Apparently IGN knows something about it.demersel wrote...
At this point - we don't know anything about next ME game. It may not be even called Mass Effect, let alone Mass Effect 4.
They often compared the war with the reapers with WWII. And you you know what? whe deffininly didn't get to fight much of the of the actual WAR. what we got is more like the initial blitzkrieg.
That proves Shepard is alive. Beyond any reasonable doubt.
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Posté 23 octobre 2012 - 06:20
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But there will.estebanus wrote...
Eerrr... You're confusing me, Paxxton. A lot. They said that there will be no more Shepard.paxxton wrote...
Yes, I read it. It was me who first brought the news to our thread a few days ago.Arashi08 wrote...
err...did you actually read the entire article? because they are essentially saying that Shepard is likely not even going to be involved in ME4.paxxton wrote...
They don't want to make ME4 without Shepard.estebanus wrote...
... What?paxxton wrote...
“We don’t want to make ‘Shepard 2′, or Mass Effect 4 with like, ‘oh there’s no more Shepard but you’re a soldier in the universe’."Arashi08 wrote...
Apparently IGN knows something about it.demersel wrote...
At this point - we don't know anything about next ME game. It may not be even called Mass Effect, let alone Mass Effect 4.
They often compared the war with the reapers with WWII. And you you know what? whe deffininly didn't get to fight much of the of the actual WAR. what we got is more like the initial blitzkrieg.
That proves Shepard is alive. Beyond any reasonable doubt.
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Posté 23 octobre 2012 - 06:23
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That's what you may think, but that's certainly not what they said.paxxton wrote...
But there will.
They said that the new protagonist won't be a Shepard 2.0, meaning just some other random mook soldier.
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Posté 23 octobre 2012 - 06:24
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I believe what the article is implying is that you won't be playing Shepard in ME4, and that you won't be playing another alliance soldier, ie: Shepard 2.0
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Posté 23 octobre 2012 - 06:25
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On post-choice content: If one look at things rather unflexibly through The-Hero's-Journey spectacles, one could liken the whole bit of indoctrination gameplay as the death/rebirth stage for this installment of the trilogy (akin to Jade Empire's quite literal implementation of it (what we got with the ME2 intro would be on the macro scale, for the whole trilogy)), which would leave us with a few to go.
Transformation? -Maybe taking a given choice (any given choice) makes Harby think he's got you and sends to have you picked up and brought in and then you can infiltrate, if still more-or-less master of your own mind, whereas he might curbstomp a stubborn too-honest-for-their-own-good refuser.
(I'm still favouring refusal, mind :7)
As for unrelated games in the Mass Effect universe; I believe I'd play something on a much smaller scale, like "Mass Effect: Illium Noire", starring detective Anaya, or something.
Transformation? -Maybe taking a given choice (any given choice) makes Harby think he's got you and sends to have you picked up and brought in and then you can infiltrate, if still more-or-less master of your own mind, whereas he might curbstomp a stubborn too-honest-for-their-own-good refuser.
(I'm still favouring refusal, mind :7)
As for unrelated games in the Mass Effect universe; I believe I'd play something on a much smaller scale, like "Mass Effect: Illium Noire", starring detective Anaya, or something.
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Posté 23 octobre 2012 - 06:25
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Mass Effect 4 is only a temp name to refer to the fourth installment in the Mass Effect universe. That doesn't necessarily mean that it will be the final name for it.estebanus wrote...
Yeas, and it's called Mass Effect 4.Arashi08 wrote...
Apparently IGN knows something about it.demersel wrote...
At this point - we don't know anything about next ME game. It may not be even called Mass Effect, let alone Mass Effect 4.
They often compared the war with the reapers with WWII. And you you know what? whe deffininly didn't get to fight much of the of the actual WAR. what we got is more like the initial blitzkrieg.
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Posté 23 octobre 2012 - 06:25
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They said it. Kinda between the lines. But also sufficiently explicitly.estebanus wrote...
That's what you may think, but that's certainly not what they said.paxxton wrote...
But there will.
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Posté 23 octobre 2012 - 06:26
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"There is one thing we are absolutely sure of – there will be no more Shepard, and the trilogy is over."paxxton wrote...
They said it. Kinda between the lines. But also sufficiently explicitly.estebanus wrote...
That's what you may think, but that's certainly not what they said.paxxton wrote...
But there will.
That seems to be clear enough.
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Posté 23 octobre 2012 - 06:27
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agreed. but maybe Paxxton is implying that the article may be hinting at Shepard making a cameo and that this concludes that Shepard is alive. meaning destroy is canon.Ellythe wrote...
I believe what the article is implying is that you won't be playing Shepard in ME4, and that you won't be playing another alliance soldier, ie: Shepard 2.0
Still, that would be a stretch based on the small amount of info we have.
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Posté 23 octobre 2012 - 06:28
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Arashi08 wrote...
about as likely as TIM being a giant metal cuttlefish.demersel wrote...
Arashi08 wrote...
err...did you actually read the entire article? because they are essentially saying that Shepard is likely not even going to be involved in ME4.
"more likely" - is it like 3 out of 4?
Do you want me to give you link to an IGN article that says "no MP for ME3 after all"? )))
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Posté 23 octobre 2012 - 06:28
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“We don’t want (...) ‘oh there’s no more Shepard (...)'."estebanus wrote...
"There is one thing we are absolutely sure of – there will be no more Shepard, and the trilogy is over."paxxton wrote...
They said it. Kinda between the lines. But also sufficiently explicitly.estebanus wrote...
That's what you may think, but that's certainly not what they said.paxxton wrote...
But there will.
That seems to be clear enough.
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Posté 23 octobre 2012 - 06:29
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Can we atleast stay a Spectre in ME4? lol
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They said quite clearly no soldier and not even sure when it's taking place. Could be thousands of years in the future. I wouldn't be surprised if it had star trek similarities without soldiers per say but some other kind of person at the head. Doesn't have to be a soldier, but I'd be surprised if they removed the team and classes element at this point. That's kind of a staple/core component of it. Also, I can't imagine there not being a ship and travel involved. That was also key. So I think we're looking at something that just doesn't involve military.
Perhaps they'll explore some other element of the universe that they haven't even created yet. They'll probably come up with a band of people working together ala Final Fantasy 13. Just not soldiers or military related in any way. They could go STG style and not have it be a soldier but more like a spy. As long as they keep the classes, have a good story and I get a fem'shep' type character to play with my team, I'm in. Also, RPG is a must. They have to keep that part. I'd hate to not have the core RPG stuff we had with ME version 1. But we'll see.
I'm thinking that even though they won't call it soldier, it's going to act similarly just lacking in military aspect. If it's a hero it has to behave similarly though it doesn't have to be a soldier, so that class might not even exist if they stick with classes which I can't imagine them not having. To lose that is to lose essential aspects of the races, and I cannot imagine them losing the races. They are key. maybe they would add a few more, but to not have any of the ones we see would be insane and cost more creation wise since they already have these made. Ah well, I figure we'll know in 2015 or so.
Perhaps they'll explore some other element of the universe that they haven't even created yet. They'll probably come up with a band of people working together ala Final Fantasy 13. Just not soldiers or military related in any way. They could go STG style and not have it be a soldier but more like a spy. As long as they keep the classes, have a good story and I get a fem'shep' type character to play with my team, I'm in. Also, RPG is a must. They have to keep that part. I'd hate to not have the core RPG stuff we had with ME version 1. But we'll see.
I'm thinking that even though they won't call it soldier, it's going to act similarly just lacking in military aspect. If it's a hero it has to behave similarly though it doesn't have to be a soldier, so that class might not even exist if they stick with classes which I can't imagine them not having. To lose that is to lose essential aspects of the races, and I cannot imagine them losing the races. They are key. maybe they would add a few more, but to not have any of the ones we see would be insane and cost more creation wise since they already have these made. Ah well, I figure we'll know in 2015 or so.
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Posté 23 octobre 2012 - 06:32
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Totally taken out of context. What they mean s that they don't want to make a Shepard 2.0.paxxton wrote...
“We don’t want (...) ‘oh there’s no more Shepard (...)'."estebanus wrote...
"There is one thing we are absolutely sure of – there will be no more Shepard, and the trilogy is over."paxxton wrote...
They said it. Kinda between the lines. But also sufficiently explicitly.estebanus wrote...
That's what you may think, but that's certainly not what they said.paxxton wrote...
But there will.
That seems to be clear enough.
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Posté 23 octobre 2012 - 06:35
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They mean both of those.estebanus wrote...
Totally taken out of context. What they mean s that they don't want to make a Shepard 2.0.paxxton wrote...
“We don’t want (...) ‘oh there’s no more Shepard (...)'."estebanus wrote...
"There is one thing we are absolutely sure of – there will be no more Shepard, and the trilogy is over."paxxton wrote...
They said it. Kinda between the lines. But also sufficiently explicitly.estebanus wrote...
That's what you may think, but that's certainly not what they said.paxxton wrote...
But there will.
That seems to be clear enough.
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Posté 23 octobre 2012 - 06:37
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While I think the IT has plenty of convincing points and is very cleverly put together, my biggest question is: why would Bioware wait this long to do anything about it? I mean when we were still only a few weeks after launch of the game, I could see it being a cool "long game" tactic, but we're coming up on nearly 8 months since ME3 came out. As much as I love the theory, so much time has passed that I don't know this is what they had in mind, and if they did, they are risking people just not caring by a certain point (I love ME3 and will buy all the DLC though, but I imagine others will probably get over it and if they have a "big reveal" the impact will be lost)
Actually, it would be fitting with drawing a parallel to how most people live in the real world. Look a few pages back to see my post regarding this. Basically, if they are making a statement about brainwashing and how we are brainwashed everyday of our lives until we actively decide to not be reactive but to choose what we believe and think and how we are going to react, and until we decide to not let society blindly lead us in certain directions and make certain choices for us or to follow willingly because it's easier, then what's the point? We're going to be indoctrinated to a plethora of different beliefs. We're going to rationalize them and justify them and fight for them and over them. Most people are sheeple. Few actually look at the facts and examine things that are right in front of them or dig a little deeper to suss out the thruth. We're told what to think, what to believe, what's right, what's wrong. We're told how to live. How to not live. So much is dictated to us and the majority just let it carve them like a stone.
How many people don't let societal judgments and expectations affect them? How many live truly happily without expecting life to be a certain way because we've been told it should be this certain way? How many believe promises made (naively believe) and then when they aren't kept get bent over it. And how is that different from indoctrination? How is any of it not some form of indoctrination? WE ARE CURRENTLY ALL LIVING IN AN INDOCTRINATED WORLD. Look around you and you'll see it everywhere. Not about reapers but about religion, politics, war, crime, money, power, status, everything really. There are few people who are so self actualized that they look at all of it and see it as lies and more lies. I've lived long enough to learn that everything we are promised and everything we are told is pretty much bull****. All of it stemmed from points of power, people in power wanting to keep the power and control then others who were already deeply indoctrinated to those lines of thinking putting on the peer pressure. That's what I see everywhere. Sheeple being led to the slaughter. Maybe not death, but down a path that is not serving them well. A path where they are miserable in many cases but they are so indoctrinated to beliefs that they hold to it no matter what rather than saying WTF? Why am I stuck in this mode and clinging to this belief that has given me nothing but misery? I've beaten many forms of indoctrination. Probobaly others here have too. It's always served me well. In the game it serves you well too.
So to answer your questions, it's a long con or maybe even a study in watching how people behave, if they stick to the simple answers or dig beyond that. If they become convinced that their path was right despite being told all the way through the game (nevermind the series) that meddling with things (genophage/synthesis) and controlling things (geth/quarian war/ control) always ends in disaster. Living proof of the outcomes. Right there. As shepard, you just came face to face with that and should have learned something. If you were just playing a game, likely you didn't. If you asked questions and thought about it and listened to how people felt about it as you were resolving these conflicts you gained enough (one would help) to realize that nothing good ever comes from controlling or trying to control things you shouldn't and nothing good can ever come from meddling with things you have no right to meddle with even if you truly believe it is the best for the galaxy as the salarians did. They brought back the rachni and then had to fix that by uplifting the krogan and then had to fix that with the genophage.
If I were the creator of this game, I'd let everyone play it and process it and watch it like one big sociological study while milking it for DLC any way I can, then at the last possible moment release something that shows them difinitively that control and systhesis were the worst possible solutions. Or I might walk away without ever saying a thing about IT because they're already indoctrinated and so what's the point? How many people do you know to have a firm belief about something ever really change their mind even when faced with proof regarding that belief and that it's not a healthy one to have? Most people pick a side and stick with a to the death unless it costs them something and then they are forced to reexamine that belief. Few people are truly open minded and few people are willing to go back and reassess things. More likely, they'll be pissed that they were tricked. But were they tricked if the information was always there but they didn't take the time to review it and make a fully informed decision before letting themselves become indoctrinated to some random belief?
Actually, I'd be shocked if they ever came out and said it was IT all along. What would be the point? Yeah, it would make some people think, but most, when faced with information that goes against their beliefs just get angry and dig themselves in deeper to justify said beliefs rather than admit they were wrong or came to a flawed conclusion.
Yep. And that's why I don't think they'll change the ending in any massive way, even though I do hope for an ending DLC or expansion
The rumor War Asset cinematic DLC would be pretty amazing though, to further *illustrate* a united galaxy READY to truly kill the Reapers themselves (aka pick Destroy kthnx).
I understand all you said here, but I still do 'require' a true resolution of this PLOT THREAD (forget the legit idea of a sociological/psychological study here, it is still a product that didn't resolve what it set out to do, as claimed by the creators - yes I know, I know).
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Wowky wrote...
While I think the IT has plenty of convincing points and is very cleverly put together, my biggest question is: why would Bioware wait this long to do anything about it? I mean when we were still only a few weeks after launch of the game, I could see it being a cool "long game" tactic, but we're coming up on nearly 8 months since ME3 came out. As much as I love the theory, so much time has passed that I don't know this is what they had in mind, and if they did, they are risking people just not caring by a certain point (I love ME3 and will buy all the DLC though, but I imagine others will probably get over it and if they have a "big reveal" the impact will be lost)
The obvious answers are DLC and, eventually, ME4.
It's clear that ME3 is going to be the LAST Mass Effect game for the current generation of games consoles - ME4 will likely arrive on PC at the same time as the next Xbox, and the next Playstation.
But hype for ME4 will likely be generated in a large part by the ongoing story of Mass Effect 3.
If the Mass Effect 3 story had been clear cut, if it had all been tied up neatly, then people would have finished with the game after what - a month? Two? Three at the most?
As it stands, people are still looking for hidden meanings, discussing the ending, the story, delving into the lore over 8 months afterwards. We're probably going to continue receiving DLC for Mass Effect 3's single player and multiplayer for the next 12 months. ME3 is effectively a marketing machine that will drive interest on to the NEXT game in the series... and so, to generate the most hype and the most interest in the next game, Bioware will leave us guessing and leave the final sting in the tail for last.
So, will we get a big reveal? A plot twist? We won't know all the answers until the DLC cycle is complete, and by that time ME4 will be knocking on our door. Until then... we speculate!!
If IT is true, ME4 could very well make Destroy canon.
And just support it through the DLC cycle, making Bioware go: "Well all endings are 'legit', but you didn't catch the story we sent you all these years?"
And it'll be 2-3 years after ME3 came out, so complainers would just be told to shush and enjoy a next-gen Bioware game.
Actually this makes a spooky sort of sense.
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Actually, I'd be shocked if they ever came out and said it was IT all along. What would be the point? Yeah, it would make some people think, but most, when faced with information that goes against their beliefs just get angry and dig themselves in deeper to justify said beliefs rather than admit they were wrong or came to a flawed conclusion.
Some truly excellent points here. I really like your analysis of what could be Bioware's greatest narrative experiment. Although personally I would like to see it resolved with a "Wake Up" DLC, rather than left hanging for the simple reason that I think it could be spectacularly fun to play.
Shepard would have faced the Reaper's most potent weapon and overcome it. The tone of the story would shift completely, and for the better. From crushing despair to hope. No more self-doubt, no more tedious, angsty moping over some Darwin Award-winning kid.
Shepard would be mad as hell, and not about to take any more crap from some overgrown metal lobsters. An epic Harbinger boss fight accompanied by ME2's suicide mission theme would round things off nicely and put a huge smile on my face for about the next week.
This is why that 'London at Dawn' wallpaper from Bioware gives me so much hope
Bioware can deny all they want, but it doesn't stop me speculating on this kind of this. A truly kickass, long, action packed and cinematic perfect finish to the trilogy.
They would just need the current endings to simmer over for a while (aka a year).
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Wowky wrote...
While I think the IT has plenty of convincing points and is very cleverly put together, my biggest question is: why would Bioware wait this long to do anything about it? I mean when we were still only a few weeks after launch of the game, I could see it being a cool "long game" tactic, but we're coming up on nearly 8 months since ME3 came out. As much as I love the theory, so much time has passed that I don't know this is what they had in mind, and if they did, they are risking people just not caring by a certain point (I love ME3 and will buy all the DLC though, but I imagine others will probably get over it and if they have a "big reveal" the impact will be lost)
SNIP...
Actually, I'd be shocked if they ever came out and said it was IT all along. What would be the point? Yeah, it would make some people think, but most, when faced with information that goes against their beliefs just get angry and dig themselves in deeper to justify said beliefs rather than admit they were wrong or came to a flawed conclusion.
Yep. And that's why I don't think they'll change the ending in any massive way, even though I do hope for an ending DLC or expansion
The rumor War Asset cinematic DLC would be pretty amazing though, to further *illustrate* a united galaxy READY to truly kill the Reapers themselves (aka pick Destroy kthnx).
I understand all you said here, but I still do 'require' a true resolution of this PLOT THREAD (forget the legit idea of a sociological/psychological study here, it is still a product that didn't resolve what it set out to do, as claimed by the creators - yes I know, I know).
I think they would have to clarify what happens after each choice to the point where you understand C and S are indoctrination and D is true destruction. For people like us, we would want way more clarification like when the indoctrination attempt began but that might be too much to expect. Leviathan was hardcore indoctrination or enthrallment/domination so you have a sense of it. It's hard to not see what's going on at the citadel and see something is awry there and then believe the starbrat, but then again, there's no reason for some people to not believe the starbrat.
For my sake, I've decided it has been answered well enough for me. I don't need more proof when I see all the themes and hear what my crew is saying all the way through and even hackett about dead reapers is how we win this. It's like you've been sitting in class getting prepped for a surprise quiz throughout the entire game. When the quiz comes at the citadel, it's just a matter of whether or not you heard the information the teacher said and processed it or just heard it and didn't assimilate it in any way or even ignored it as irrelevant because you were too busy texing friends or doodling on a pad or playing your gameboy (haha).
If it were me, I might thow a bone to the IT people that they would get and take as proof but something that others wouldn't get because if you need to have it shoved down your throat anymore than it has been you're walking around half awake and shoving it down your throat is probably still not going to wake you up. We're talking MATRIX level here. That's the scope of it. Go into the Matrix and everyone is an agent. You can't wake them up. Too much of a shock. They couldn't accept it. But the ones who are already digging like us here will get it. We already do but now some need solid proof, which I'm not sure why. Figuring it out is good enough for me though I am less fond of thinking that it was when the beam hit me and now I'm still lying in the rubble in london and the reapers are still harvesting and winning and quite far from being destroyed. I get that and it really should be resolved, but I'm not going to put faith in them actually resolving it because it's a big thing to hope for it seems.
