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Read Revelation, it's interesting how it's stressed over and over how strange it is how smoothly a new race is adopted in the council. Interestingly uplifted races who had no exposure to tech of the last cycle aren't that smooth. Even Javik tells you that, they had the tech from the race before, made the Citadel their HQ, subjugated any other race. Now the Asari, Turians, and Salarians had the most and longest exposure that tech and again made the Citadel their HQ. Other races with enough exposure easily followed and joined the council, races with less exposure like humans are an exception and it doesn't go that smooth. Races like the Krogan or Rachni go to a longer war until they're nearly extinct. The interesting thing here is the Reapers interest in the Rachni, and Harbingers comment about Krogans "Sterilized race, wasted potential." while any other race with more much exposure is called out to be flawed by their very nature. Also Quarians were considered, and they are also not part of the Citadel anymore.Davik Kang wrote...
In what I'm saying, you have to divorce the idea of indoctrination from the Reapers. If Shepard is indoctrinating people, it is to her side. 'Inspiring' people could be seen as another form of indoctrination. This is why I'm trying to highlght the idea of getting people to do what you want. Indcotrination is one method. But there are others. It is a special kind of power.starlitegirlx wrote...
I don't think shepard indoctrinated. I think shepard inspired. In all of ME2 shepard is just asking people to join. They choose to for their own personal reasons. Shepard doesn't even pick the people. And not one of them does anything but fight against the reapers in ME3 so they are not indoctrinated. In ME3, shepard tries to get forces to save earth but with each step it becomes a bigger undertaking because he/she has to now stop the genophage and the geth. Nothing there points to indoctrination.
The council are made up of Turian Salarian and Asari who represent 3 kinds of power. Military might/discipline, knowledge/intelligence, and wealth/persuasion. This makes the council a force strong enough to get people to ally to its cause.
I wonder if this is why it's called Mass Effect? An object with more mass in space draws other objects to it, and in turn becomes more massive. The Council is massive enough, as are the Reapers. I wonder if Shepard is somehow also (metaphorically speaking) massive enough despite being just one person? In this way Shepard is an incredible source of power.
Unforunately all this speculating is getting in the way of the first post (whoops). I am more trying to gather in-game evidence for stuff. Maybe there is just too much. I'll give it a go though.
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. But yeah, the only other species that achieved anything like the advances made by humanity was, of course, the Krogan. And of course, they were being manipulated all the way. So I don't think it's a huge leap to think that there is something behind humanity's dizzying ascent to power. The convenience of the Prothean archive both historically and with the crucible designs, TIM... and if we continue the thought that behind TIM is not Harbinger but Leviathan, maybe humanity is Leviathan's last throw of the dice - a species driven, courageous and violent enough to stop the reapers, but still susceptible to Thralldom? 
