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[plfranke]

So does that mean Shepard's true form is just a glob of white light?

[estebanus]

BatmanTurian wrote...

gunslinger_ruiz wrote...

Very well  then, here are some screenshots to help this confusion (I hope).

This is CASUAL CLOTHING1 (female Shepard):



This is CASUAL CLOTHING 4 (female Shepard), this is also the casual wear you have on at the start of the game:



This is DEFAULT N7 ARMOR (female Shepard), you start in this armor for the Mars mission:



This is a damaged version of the DEFAULT N7 ARMOR you are automatically put in after Harbigner attacks you during the beam run:



IMPORTANT NOTE: Regardless of what armor you're currently wearing for the Beam run (Blood Dragon, Hahne-Kedar, Reckoner Knight, etc) the game changes you to the damaged version of the DEFAULT N7 ARMOR once you are attacked.

If you are seeing CASUAL CLOTHING 1 or 4 on your Shepard when you stumble awake after Harbinger's attack, it is a likely a unique gltich in your game, or the work of a mod you may have downloaded. This is the first time I'm hearing of this bug, if it is a bug and not just confusion. It would be helpful to us if you uploaded a screenshot of whatever you're seeing.

You're missing part of the point.
in the last picture, the casual and armor is mixed in one outfit. Shepard is clearly wearing the casual under the armor.

So?

Look, standard military procedure in e´nearly every army today is to wear the uniform under your combat clothing. It's not really unbelievable that this would also be present in the aliiance military.

[gunslinger_ruiz]

@BatmanTurian

Yes, that's true. Shepard wears casual clothing under the armor He/She wears, seemingly during the entire game. Think of it as underwear but for your armor.

This was uncovered and established several months ago. Shepard is switched to default N7 armor, charred, and appears to have casual Clothing under the charred Armor. The presence of the clothing adds no more to the ending argument than the default armor switch. Or maybe it does, I personally never thought my Shepards went into battle without some kind of clothing under their armor... ... ... Chafing.

[Leonia]

That armour would chafe something fierce without a uniform underneathe.

Aw, Gunslinger beat me to the punch. And just to add a finer point to it, you can see bits of uniform under armour on other characters too, such as Garrus. As someone who used to don armour in the 501st, I can assure you that wearing something underneathe is a MUST.

Modifié par leonia42, 25 octobre 2012 - 05:43 .

[BatmanTurian]

gunslinger_ruiz wrote...

@BatmanTurian

Yes, that's true. Shepard wears casual clothing under the armor He/She wears, seemingly during the entire game. Think of it as underwear but for your armor.

This was uncovered and established several months ago. Shepard is switched to default N7 armor, charred, and appears to have casual Clothing under the charred Armor. The presence of the clothing adds no more to the ending argument than the default armor switch. Or maybe it does, I personally never thought my Shepards went into battle without some kind of clothing under their armor... ... ... Chafing.

the earlier argument was that shepard's armor was blown off and/or melted to the point where his/her casual uniform was showing underneith, therefore, Shepard would not be able to survive the blast that caused the destruction of the armor, therefore adding to the evidence that everything after harbinger's blast is a dream sequence. I was helping starlite explain this and it got into this argument about the armor when it was actually about Shepard's suvivability and lack of scarring, burn issue, etc.

Modifié par BatmanTurian, 25 octobre 2012 - 06:04 .

[Power Up]

Hey magnetite nice video, the cool thing is the big red explosion transforms into a big blue explosion.

If we take it as the decision chamber being shepard's brain the we can assume goes full paragon mode (not raping everybody o selling anybody).

Could you please do the same for control o synthesis just to see what they look like ?

[Power Up]

magnetite wrote...

Power Up wrote...

Hey magnetite nice video, the cool thing is the big red explosion transforms into a big blue explosion.

If we take it as the decision chamber being shepard's brain the we can assume goes full paragon mode (not raping everybody o selling anybody).

Could you please do the same for control o synthesis just to see what they look like ?

Sure thing. Although, inverting the colors, and putting them back (inverting them again), might just end up how it originally was. I'll try something else. 

There's another thing you can do where you swap the red and blue parts of the video and keep everything else as is. It's a function in Avisynth called SwapUV(). 

Ok great, I'll try using Avisinth, Im specially interested in how synthesis looks  probably will look creepy as hell.
Control probably will look full renegade, interesting bits that somehow don't get much attention probably because of FTL thread.

[gunslinger_ruiz]

BatmanTurian wrote...

gunslinger_ruiz wrote...

@BatmanTurian

Yes, that's true. Shepard wears casual clothing under the armor He/She wears, seemingly during the entire game. Think of it as underwear but for your armor.

This was uncovered and established several months ago. Shepard is switched to default N7 armor, charred, and appears to have casual Clothing under the charred Armor. The presence of the clothing adds no more to the ending argument than the default armor switch. Or maybe it does, I personally never thought my Shepards went into battle without some kind of clothing under their armor... ... ... Chafing.

the earlier argument was that shepard's armor was blown off and/or melted to the point where his/her casual uniform was showing underneith, therefore, Shepard would not be able to survive the blast that caused the destruction of the armor, therefore adding to the evidence that everything after harbinger's blast is a dream sequence. I was helping starlite explain this and it got into this argument about the armor when it was actually about Shepard's suvivability and lack of scarring, burn issue, etc.

The only reason Shepard (potentially) survived is because he/she is part robot. On top of that, it's not 100% clear Harbinger got him/er with a direct hit, it may have just been a glance or an explosion of the air caused by the beam being so close to him/her.

It's not impossible for Shepard to survive a glance of a Reaper beam, BUT a direct hit  should have disentigrated him/her.

What Shepard should NOT have been able to survive is, and I quote myself:

When viewing the following keep in mind several things:
The Citadel is massive. Shepard is at the base of the ring, essentially
under the Presidium Tower in the center of the Citadel where the
Crucible is docked. Shepard has hardly any armor and no kinetic barriers
as proven by the blood spatter from Marauder Shields attack.



This
explosion more than envelops the area where Shepard was in the decision
chamber, the sheer size of this explosion should let us assume that it
is LARGE and FATAL to anything near it.

A list of things Shepard would need to survive in the Destroy ending in order to take the famous breath:

1. Potentially fatal injuries already sustained. (Harbinger's death ray, Marauder Shields gunshot, excessive bleeding)
2.
The initial explosion of the Destroy tube (the strength of this
explosion alone could outright kill Shepard at point blank range).
3.
Being ground zero when the Red Wave is sent out (it's enough force to
move space debris and Reapers, it would most definitley hurt Shepard
being that close).
4. The Red Wave itself. "You can wipe out all
Synthetic life if you want --- Even YOU are partly Synthetic," it's
entirely possible ALL of Shepard's implants would be deactivated on
contact with the Red energy.
5. The Citadel-Crucible explosion, image above.
6. The vastness of space without a helmet. Or air for that matter.
7.
Re-entry into Earth's atmosphere without kinetic barriers or whole armor
or a helmet (the sheer heat of freefall would vaporize Shepard if other
things hadn't already.)
8. Impact with the ground, assuming anything is left of Shepard it would have to be scooped up with a shovel and bucket.

The
infamous "Shepard Breath" scene I am 99% positive takes place on Earth,
see my sig for London Rubble/Breath scene Rubble comparison. Shepard is
in one piece, bloodied and battered, and takes a breath on Earth after
the list above, the only logical explanation is that Shepard never left
Earth. Whether or not things occured in your head or in real life while
you were uncosious is up in the air at this point.

[jojon2se]

Hehe, when people speak of Shepard's armour being huffed-and-puffed-and-bloooown off, I can't help but to get the mental image of Shepard as the knight in Ghost'n'Goblins - polkadot boxers and all.

It's not unreasonable, though. I thought it was generally assumed that Harbinger's lazor stops short of Shepard - he is licking the ground in Shep's direction, until something overheats enough to explode (rearing up- and igniting dust?) and then Shepard is thrown back by the shockwave, which would also tear at every individual piece of armour. There would be heat, but that would arrive before the pressure, so Shep's arms would still be protected by the ablative properties of the armour at that point.

[Power Up]

Mother of God.... Thats an awesome screenshot!!! And unseen probably because everyone is sleeping or something. What was that other thing you tried ??

[gunslinger_ruiz]

magnetite, what effect is that?

[Power Up]

Nice.. ok time for bed, see ya magnetite, good job on the screenshots

[Raistlin Majare 1992]

magnetite wrote...

The one with the oily shadows inverts the color. It's a VirtualDub filter. The other one which swaps colors is called "SwapUV", which swaps the blue and red parts of the image. It's an Avisynth filter.

So you simply swapped the colors...I wonder how many would have picked Synthesis / Control or beleived the Catalyst had the chamber looked like that.

Up is down, red is blue, right is left.

[Jusseb]

Nice find.

I'm proud that i never chose control or synthesis, ever. Never was i tempted, i always blow the **** out of that tube.

Hell even if i had to crack that tube with my bare hands i've done it every single time.

Modifié par Jusseb, 25 octobre 2012 - 08:37 .

[BleedingUranium]

Watching the inverted video, I noticed something else about the Carnifex/Predator switch: while the gun only physically changes at the end, as the shockwave passes over it, which is symbolic enough, only the first four gunshots are Carnifex ones, after that, it's all Predator.

When exactly does it start making Predator gunshots? As soon as it cuts to the close up of Shepard, right as he starts walking straight and looking all defiant. Yep, more gun symbolism there


Also, on the back cover of the game, and I believe the front of the artbook as well, Shepard's in full armour, standing on rubble, in London, like the new wallpaper. The fact that this never happens (yet) is interesting, but you know what else is? What gun is Shepard holding? A Valiant.

Modifié par BleedingUranium, 25 octobre 2012 - 08:56 .

[Restrider]

spotlessvoid wrote...

@Dem

What if Leviathan indoctrinates the Reaper while the Reaper indoctrinates Leviathan and they switch places?

What happens, if two Ardat Yakshi meld?

[Z3R0D3A7H]

I posted this in a different forum, but meant to post it in here:
I just thought of something....Didn't a nice large armored space suit just land in the lap of one of the Leviathans?
Reaper take down:  http://youtu.be/DwTPQxxDpa4?t=10m52s