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Was the Ending a Hallucination? - Indoctrination Theory Mark III!
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#40077
Posté 26 octobre 2012 - 06:45
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Liar-a is part of the conspiracy too.Home run MF wrote...
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Maybe but Liara's smart. She would've deduced why Hackett sent Shepard there. Unless Hackett wasn't actually cooperating with her on the search for the Crucible. IIRC she's never acknowledged their joint efforts.
Liara on Mars: Hackett knew it, too. He contacted me, asking if I would use my resources as the Shadow Broker to find a way to stop the Reapers.
My search led me here. Hackett got me access to the Archives and kept me updated on your status.
jk
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Posté 26 octobre 2012 - 06:47
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The better question is, how could he have not been indoctrinated?Andromidius wrote...
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Hello everyone!
@StarliteGirl I agree. Anderson could possibly be indoctrinated, Hackett is not.
How could Anderson be indoctrinated?
Months on Earth during the occupation is the safest bet.
Yes. True. Also, wasn't there the part where leaders were going into the reapers to try to make peace and getting indoctrinated? Or that if they did go in they would be indoctrinated. Meanwhile, anderson says he's doing guerella style attacks on them which would put him in close proximity to them, which can lead to indoctrination. Proximity is an issue, isn't it? Inside a reaper, even a dead one, gaurantees it. But near it is also a way, correct?
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Posté 26 octobre 2012 - 06:48
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BansheeOwnage wrote...
@Starlite Which platform are you on?
xbox
#40080
Posté 26 octobre 2012 - 06:51
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@Starlite Oh, cool so am I.
GT is BansheeOwnage (surprise!
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Also, yes, proximity is an issue. Here is something to think about: After the destroy beam kills the reapers (in literal only) would everyone still be indoctrinated by their corpses?
GT is BansheeOwnage (surprise!
)Also, yes, proximity is an issue. Here is something to think about: After the destroy beam kills the reapers (in literal only) would everyone still be indoctrinated by their corpses?
#40081
Posté 26 octobre 2012 - 06:52
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Yeah!starlitegirlx wrote...
BansheeOwnage wrote...
@Starlite Which platform are you on?
xbox
Really though, all platforms are great. Computer has the advantages over the consoles though.
(sorry for jumping in on this)
#40082
Posté 26 octobre 2012 - 06:52
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I stopped playing MP because Banshee and Blur don't have enough medi-gel to keep reviving me
#40083
Posté 26 octobre 2012 - 06:54
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It's possible, the Krogan were warned not to go near the sight of the Thresher Maw killing, due to the risks of Indoctrination. We don't even know if it completely kills them, or just renders them non-functional (direlect reaper)BansheeOwnage wrote...
@Starlite Oh, cool so am I.
GT is BansheeOwnage (surprise!
Also, yes, proximity is an issue. Here is something to think about: After the destroy beam kills the reapers (in literal only) would everyone still be indoctrinated by their corpses?
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#40084
Posté 26 octobre 2012 - 06:55
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@Spot lol
Also, Banshee and Blur has quite a ring to it.
Also, Banshee and Blur has quite a ring to it.
#40085
Posté 26 octobre 2012 - 07:00
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I'm like Private Upham crying in the stairwell and Banshee and Blur are Sergeant Horvath dragging my ass to the alamo lol
#40086
Posté 26 octobre 2012 - 07:00
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@401 Yeah, that's true. Blur and I had an idea that the crucible could disable the reapers' mass effect cores. This would disable their shields and any reapers on the ground would crush themselves. It would be hilarious to see reapers on the ground like that. Helpless and kicking the air with their legs. >
#40087
Posté 26 octobre 2012 - 07:05
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Like overturned beetles. Haha.
"We are infinitely greater than you. Now flip me over!"
"We are infinitely greater than you. Now flip me over!"
#40088
Posté 26 octobre 2012 - 07:07
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spotlessvoid wrote...
I'm like Private Upham crying in the stairwell and Banshee and Blur are Sergeant Horvath dragging my ass to the alamo lol
Hahaha, I love that movie!
#40089
Posté 26 octobre 2012 - 07:09
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@Spot My point exactly.
@Blur Sorry, which movie is that from again?
@Blur Sorry, which movie is that from again?
#40090
Posté 26 octobre 2012 - 07:13
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Saving Private Ryan. During the final battle
#40091
Posté 26 octobre 2012 - 07:14
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Oh, good. I thought so. I haven't seen it in a while though.
See you all later.
See you all later.
#40092
Posté 26 octobre 2012 - 07:16
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So, what's up people? Any news on Omega?
#40093
Posté 26 octobre 2012 - 07:19
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Dwailing wrote...
So, what's up people? Any news on Omega?
I was going to repost the Omega leak, but I then I realised the link I have saved is when you reposted it
#40094
Posté 26 octobre 2012 - 07:19
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See ya
Dwailing....none. Other than it's confirmed playable between mars and cronos
Dwailing....none. Other than it's confirmed playable between mars and cronos
#40095
Posté 26 octobre 2012 - 07:21
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Eek. Never noticed the screaming during Zaeed's mission if you choose to side with him instead of saving the colonists. That screaming in the background...
Oh well, my Shepard is a bit of a psychopath these days. The only person he's nice to is Tali.
Oh well, my Shepard is a bit of a psychopath these days. The only person he's nice to is Tali.
#40096
Posté 26 octobre 2012 - 07:22
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SwobyJ wrote...
Another illustrative IT video... youtu.be/a5f8huTzT_U
Wow, never noticed the kid's face turn into a husky skeleton face.
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Posté 26 octobre 2012 - 07:24
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Raistlin Majare 1992 wrote...
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Hackett is more indoctrinated than Shepard, TIM and Rana Thanoptis combined! Everybody accuses other obvious candidates for indoctrination but seems to overlook the one character that poses as a beacon of righteousness. And that's exactly where indoctrination would go unnoticed by anyone.SwobyJ wrote...
social.bioware.com/898431/polls/41016/
Hacket poll is out.
Seems at minimum, 1/4-1/3 of players find Hackett at least a *bit* suspicious.
Still very outnumbered by those who don't think that at all.
Two simple question regarding Hackett beeing Indoctrinated, when and how?
I must be sounding like a broken record by now, but Hacket has for everything we are shown in all three Mass Effect games had zero contact with Reaper tech and no direct proximity to a Reaper.
He is a fleet Admiral to the bone, we have never seen him off a ship, never had him mentioned as beeing anywhere but on a ship, no groud missions, nothing. Beyond that he spends allmost all of ME3 overlooking the Crucible project safely hidden away from the Reaper and even as we hit Earth he is still on a ship.
As I allready said Hacket has no known contact with any kind of Reaper tech and if you ask me some of the worst storytelling you can do is making a reval which is not backed by player knowledge in at least some way. But then again under a littral perspective they allready did that.
Yeah it gets to me too.
Here's a few things, just randomish info:
-He was born in South America
-He seemingly wasn't on Arcturus Station when the Reapers attacked and destroyed it
-"His rare ascent from enlisted man to admiral remains an Alliance legend." (now this part could be curious...)
-"Hackett is one of the three officers who recommends Commander Shepard as the first human Spectre." (so he's obviously had an eye on you from the beginning)
-"After Liara T'Soni's confrontation with the Shadow Broker,
if Shepard did not pursue a romance with Liara, she mentions that
Hackett recovered Shepard's dog tags and passed them on to her so that
she could return them to their rightful owner" (wait, where did he get them? Who recovered his body first? Just wondering.)
-"Hackett expresses his distaste at the Illusive Man's
aim to control the Reapers, asserting that he is trying to tame a shark
and that the whole galaxy could end up paying for his misguided intent.
He orders the Commander to kill him" (Remember that a shark is an apex predator. So it's not just TIM making reference to apex predators now, just so we know now.)
-“Never before have so many come together from all quarters of the
galaxy. But never before have we faced an enemy such as this. The
Reapers will show us no mercy, we must give them no quarter. They will
terrorize our populations. We must stand fast in the face of that
terror. They will advance until our last city falls, but we will not
fall. We will prevail. Each of us will be defined by our actions in the
coming battle. Stand fast, stand strong. Stand together. Hackett out.[2]”
I think if he's indoctrinated, its at a VERY VERY low level. Alternatively... he's not indoctrinated, but instead quite willing to use the Alliance to facilitate (start) and fill in any power vaccum in the galaxy, in a much more 'utilitarian' way than Cerberus ever would.
#40098
Posté 26 octobre 2012 - 07:28
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You know - the perimeter of decision chamber? That looks very much like the dish from overlord...
#40099
Posté 26 octobre 2012 - 07:29
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@Swoby
You do realise that with the Alliance Parlement and Udina dead, Hackett is the de facto leader of youmanatee, right?
You do realise that with the Alliance Parlement and Udina dead, Hackett is the de facto leader of youmanatee, right?
#40100
Posté 26 octobre 2012 - 07:31
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By the way, i don't remember where, but i think somewhere in in the games in some doiloge it is said that Earthborn Shepard's hometown is actually Rio... I think is was in some diologe with Ash back in ME1...
