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[spotlessvoid]

Lol I was just joking Swoby.

[BatmanTurian]

SwobyJ wrote...

Aria doesn't even need to be a Spectre. Just a power broker that has contacts with the Asari, in order to keep Omega and the Terminus Systems untouched. I use 'power broker' lightly, as she might even have a sort of loyalty to the Council overall, even if she is mostly her own agent.

Yeah, but a spectre makes more sense politically. It's how Asari deal with things. Nothing concrete to prove it, but there is some circumstantial evidence that it would make sense. If so, it means Aria's been a spectre for at least 200 years, long enough to keep the pirate colony in line while making it look like Omega has no government. Meanwhile, you have Turian mooks saying Aria has her blue fingers in every Omega pie. Tevos treats her like she would treat Shepard, like when Shepard is just waved through by Bailey in ME2.  It just implies she is more than she appears to be.

Modifié par BatmanTurian, 27 octobre 2012 - 08:03 .

[BatmanTurian]

Arashi08 wrote...

oh btw isn't this latest operation scheduled to be the one we are supposed to fail?

It's pretty easy to beat, especially if you just solo bronze.

[Arashi08]

BatmanTurian wrote...

Arashi08 wrote...

oh btw isn't this latest operation scheduled to be the one we are supposed to fail?

It's pretty easy to beat, especially if you just solo bronze.

right, but we usually always manage to fail every third operation, although it might have changed now that they are going back to doing them every week rather than every other week.

[BatmanTurian]

SwobyJ wrote...

spotlessvoid wrote...

The function of the R complex and the additional complexities added by the mammalian parts of our brain is truly fascinating, but it's besides the point. Meta cognition is the defining characteristic of higher life forms. My point is that through proper training, these lower brain functions can be controlled to an astounding degree. If you have doubts of the power of the higher brain, google Thich Quang Duc.

All I was saying was that these primal urges are not an inescapable reality. Humans can and must learn how to surpass these basic mental states

Paragon is heaven. Renegade is hell. Reality is neither. It is 'purgatory'.

Ahem...purgatory... lots of hints about that. Purgatory is the test of afterlife.

Hahaha Aria is in Purgatory after being kicked out of Afterlife and now she must be tested to get back in. Oh, man. That is cool.

[BatmanTurian]

SwobyJ wrote...

BatmanTurian wrote...

spotlessvoid wrote...

Most of us are using a broken umbrella in a category 5 hurricane.

Man, you are kind of a downer today.

A good person I met once told me: "Pretty much everyone is living with a low-grade case of PSTD, so go
easy on yourself and be wide-thinking and tolerant of others."

Yeah, we all carry some kind of baggage.

[BatmanTurian]

Arashi08 wrote...

BatmanTurian wrote...

Arashi08 wrote...

oh btw isn't this latest operation scheduled to be the one we are supposed to fail?

It's pretty easy to beat, especially if you just solo bronze.

right, but we usually always manage to fail every third operation, although it might have changed now that they are going back to doing them every week rather than every other week.

They might be breaking up the cycle on purpose if they were being too predictable.

[BatmanTurian]

starlitegirlx wrote...

BatmanTurian wrote...

starlitegirlx wrote...

BatmanTurian wrote...

starlitegirlx wrote...

Hopefully we get some good story out of omega because otherwise, I could give a rat's ass about getting it back for aria. The only thing that would put me on her side is as someone here suggested, she is undercover spectre or something along those lines, though spectre would be the best. In that case, I could actually like her and might return to recruiting her mercs which I don't do anymore now that I have like 8k assets. Almost 3k from MP promotes

I hadn't really thought about smoking man. I barely remember what he was like. It's been a long time since I watched xfiles. Might have to rewatch that series now.

And yeah, I do think Aria really is a Spectre. She seems really canny and it seems to me that it would be a smart move for the Council to get a spectre to infiltrate Omega, a lawless place they have no control over, to influence events there after climbing up the ranks to pirate queen. She seems to put up a front, acts all cool and aloof, but you can tell she wants to help Shepard in ME2 but just can't without breaking her cover.

Of course, it may just be confirmation bias, but as I'm playing Me2 over again and talking to Aria, she seems more and more like an undercover cop just playing a role, the role of her life. Even keeping Patriarch alive seems like something an undercover cop would do.

Who is Patriarch? Do you mean archangel? And that she knows who it really is and that he helped with sovereign? That would make a lot of sense. She is pretty adamant and you'd better move fast without saying it.

The one thing that leans me towad this suspicion is that you get that email from anderson somewhere right after you return from omega and upon arriving at omega the first thing that is demanded is meeting her, which would fall in line with what a spectre would want to do. See if it is shepard then report back and then Anderson sends an email.

I hope she is undercover because that would be a fantastic twist and might even explain why she's pissed about omega being taken. As an undercover, Illusive Man now has control of a place she was supposed to keep in line. bad news. Also, she would be undercover because it's the terminus systems and if you remember, council loved the idea of having shepard be in the terminus systems and Udina could see the logic of it. So while they may not have trusted shepard fully, they still had some faith in him/her or perhaps if they didn't aria would likely be able to give them some intel as to what shepard was really doing if she's in the terminus system and presuming aria has a network of contacts.

Also, I wonder if this is a connection to the datapad with the intel to kill Aria. At the time it seemed nothing, but if she is undercover, then that would might put that into a different light. Not necessarily, but didn't all the ones who were planning it get killed during recruitment of garrus?

Patriarch is the krogan warlord that ran Omega before Aria. Aria let him live as a " trophy" and a "warning" but I have a feeling it was for more than that.

Damn, and that anderson thing is genius. I didn't even think of that. That is a great point. Aria would have checked you out, then sent word back to the council and the Alliance, for a fee of course.
Yeah, the ones who were planning to kill her were the then bosses of Blood Pack, Blue Suns, and Eclipse. You wipe them out, Aria is safe. Maybe Aria knew and that's why she sent you after Archangel.

Yeah, Aria is way more than she seems and clever enough to have fooled Shepard and made Shepard do her dirty work: curing the plague, stopping the blood pack from moving in on Blue Sun turf, then taking all of the current leaders of the gangs out in one full swoop while getting Archangel, a thorn in her side and constant annoyance, off the station. Wow.

EDIT: Then she makes Shepard take out the leaders AGAIN in ME3 to tighten her grip on them, perhaps so the Council can manipulate them through Aria. Damn, this story could be way deeper than we thought.

Well, we all know that the council likes to manipulate things. Witness genophage. But I think the key is to keep the ones in power changing so that they never gain too much power. However, I don't think Archangel was good for her because if you unite them to get him then they would unite for other causes. So Shepard actually saved her ass since she kept them in check. But if she knew who archangel was, which if she is a spectre, I wouldn't be surprised if she found out, I don't think she would want him killed but might also not have been able to interfere.

I'm surprised people considering Aria as an undercover spectre didn't notice the anderson thing. That was the first thing that occurred to me along with the mandatory meeting of her. I don't think she'd want a fee if she's undercover. If she's undercover she would just let shepard come in and do her thing and assess what she could from intel. The plot to kill her could have been because as an undercover she was keeping them in control more than in the past. Also, there was a lot about not wanting to be at war with the terminus systems from ME1 and ME2 but if you station Aria on Omega as the queen of Omega, then she's a spy. Remember the council mentions how they have infiltrators throughout the galaxy in ME1 in the Virmire briefing? Aria might have been one of those operatives stationed in a key spot where she would be the one who gets a lot of intelligence about terminus systems without ever being suspected. So it is possibly foreshadowed in ME1. And in ME2 there is more evidence to support the theory.

Awesome. I like it. You've obviously put more thought into this than I did.

[Big_Boss9]

Arashi08 wrote...

oh btw isn't this latest operation scheduled to be the one we are supposed to fail?

Since the introduction of Retaliation, there have been no allied operations. They claim that they may do more in the future, but these operations are now individual goals only. Simply put, it's impossible to fail unless you don't do it.

[estebanus]

Hey there. What's up?

[BatmanTurian]

starlitegirlx wrote...

BatmanTurian wrote...

Arashi08 wrote...

BatmanTurian wrote...

Arashi08 wrote...

oh btw isn't this latest operation scheduled to be the one we are supposed to fail?

It's pretty easy to beat, especially if you just solo bronze.

right, but we usually always manage to fail every third operation, although it might have changed now that they are going back to doing them every week rather than every other week.

They might be breaking up the cycle on purpose if they were being too predictable.

Well, the minute I read it I knew it was a fail because how many will have N7 weapons? That right there has a strike against them. Then they have to have the character to use where carrying the weapon isn't going to interfere with gameplay. I took the eagle on adept human and never used it once. But my human adept next to never uses guns and certainly wouldn't use the eagle. So yeah, fail because right away you limit how many people can play it by specifying a weapon many don't have and might not be able to incorporate into gameplay. I played about 10-15 games yesterday and nobody was carrying the weapons but me. Then today the server kept crapping out, dropping hosts and losing connections and freezing the game in the cycle.

I just moved up to silver games, dying all over the place LOL along with teammates. I think a lot of people who just played more for fun are slowly getting forced to move to silver because there are few playing bronze that aren't new with below 50 on their N7 and most of the time I land in whitebase/cerberus constructs. So now I'm doing silver but not feeling too bad because in all my games we never made it to extraction. Usually wave 8. Clearly I'm not the only bronze in the learning stage. I just wonder if all the silvers have gone gold give all my teammates last night and today were dying quite a lot.

I'm in your predicament as well, phasing into silver but not quite ready. I can solo bronze with a quarian female engineer but even playing silver with friends and using mics and working as a team is hectic.

[FifthBeatle]

To bring things back to IT speculations for a moment...

I just played the Normandy Crash Site mission in ME2 and noticed that the white halo effect that we see after Shepard encounters Object Rho, wakes up from a dream, and after being hit by Harbinger's beam happens each time Shepard flashes into a memory about the Normandy. While not directly related to indoctrination, it does lend more proof to the thought that the halo effect is a transition to a dream/memory/flashback/hallucination.

[BatmanTurian]

estebanus wrote...

Hey there. What's up?

Mostly speculating on whether Aria is an undercover spectre or not.

[BatmanTurian]

FifthBeatle wrote...

To bring things back to IT speculations for a moment...

I just played the Normandy Crash Site mission in ME2 and noticed that the white halo effect that we see after Shepard encounters Object Rho, wakes up from a dream, and after being hit by Harbinger's beam happens each time Shepard flashes into a memory about the Normandy. While not directly related to indoctrination, it does lend more proof to the thought that the halo effect is a transition to a dream/memory/flashback/hallucination.

Yeah I remember that. I think there is a lot in ME2 that we should go over with a fine tooth comb. Even though some of it is a dead end for the dark energy ending, alot of it might be true foreshadowing.

[estebanus]

BatmanTurian wrote...

estebanus wrote...

Hey there. What's up?

Mostly speculating on whether Aria is an undercover spectre or not.

... I see. Well, back to playing DayZ again.

[Big_Boss9]

starlitegirlx wrote...

BatmanTurian wrote...

Arashi08 wrote...

BatmanTurian wrote...

Arashi08 wrote...

oh btw isn't this latest operation scheduled to be the one we are supposed to fail?

It's pretty easy to beat, especially if you just solo bronze.

right, but we usually always manage to fail every third operation, although it might have changed now that they are going back to doing them every week rather than every other week.

They might be breaking up the cycle on purpose if they were being too predictable.

Well, the minute I read it I knew it was a fail because how many will have N7 weapons? That right there has a strike against them. Then they have to have the character to use where carrying the weapon isn't going to interfere with gameplay. I took the eagle on adept human and never used it once. But my human adept next to never uses guns and certainly wouldn't use the eagle. So yeah, fail because right away you limit how many people can play it by specifying a weapon many don't have and might not be able to incorporate into gameplay. I played about 10-15 games yesterday and nobody was carrying the weapons but me. Then today the server kept crapping out, dropping hosts and losing connections and freezing the game in the cycle.

I just moved up to silver games, dying all over the place LOL along with teammates. I think a lot of people who just played more for fun are slowly getting forced to move to silver because there are few playing bronze that aren't new with below 50 on their N7 and most of the time I land in whitebase/cerberus constructs. So now I'm doing silver but not feeling too bad because in all my games we never made it to extraction. Usually wave 8. Clearly I'm not the only bronze in the learning stage. I just wonder if all the silvers have gone gold give all my teammates last night and today were dying quite a lot.

Again, there are no more allied/community goals since Retaliation. It's individual only. PUGs are a nightmare, but Gold (and even Platinum) are manageable with people you actually know and communicate with.

[401 Kill]

FifthBeatle wrote...

To bring things back to IT speculations for a moment...

I just played the Normandy Crash Site mission in ME2 and noticed that the white halo effect that we see after Shepard encounters Object Rho, wakes up from a dream, and after being hit by Harbinger's beam happens each time Shepard flashes into a memory about the Normandy. While not directly related to indoctrination, it does lend more proof to the thought that the halo effect is a transition to a dream/memory/flashback/hallucination.

That is a great point.

Also, I don't think Shepard would have been at maximum mental stability. 

Shepard is also alone... I don't recall any fade to white when Shepard is not alone.

[BatmanTurian]

estebanus wrote...

BatmanTurian wrote...

estebanus wrote...

Hey there. What's up?

Mostly speculating on whether Aria is an undercover spectre or not.

... I see. Well, back to playing DayZ again.

mmkay have fun.