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[Eryri]

Ithurael wrote...

DoomsdayDevice wrote...

I'm still not holding out hope. I'm not even convinced we need a reveal. I would like to be vindicated for all the flack the literalists have given us though.

What's wrong with just leaving it at the breath scene? The evidence even shows to me - a literalist - that something is off so to speak.

but the game is over. The breath scene and the accompanying stargazer scene show that you won and the galaxy is safe. Asking for validation on this just to shove in ppls faces seems a bit low.

Speaking personally, I don't want an IT reveal for validation. I'm not going to roll up in the synthesis threads trolling "I told you so", (though I won't deny a small, mean part of me would be tempted:devil:.)

I want an IT reveal because It continues the story into Shepard's future. I want more Mass Effect, but stuff like Leviathan and Omega just aren't the same because we know everyone's going to live through it and it won't affect the outcome. 

The only thing that could hold my interest would be post breath scene content, because its an unknown. We don't know what's going to happen. We could have an epic harbinger boss fight, or use the citadel relay to invade the Reaper's base in dark space. The possibilities are endless.

And to be honest I don't want the "galaxy to be safe". Safe is boring. I would rather Shepard won a battle at the end of ME3 that liberated earth, but left the reapers in the rest of the galaxy to be tackled later. The Reapers went down far too easily if the endings are literal. Wars are generally not won by shooting tubes in real life. 

EDIT: By the way, welcome back Simon.

Modifié par Eryri, 29 octobre 2012 - 07:04 .

[BansheeOwnage]

@Eryri Agree 100000000000%.

[Humakt83]

Simon_Says wrote...

So many beams. And none of them but one (apparently) are transport devices.

Here you can see some of the structures aligned to it. Probably have to flycam it...

Modifié par Humakt83, 29 octobre 2012 - 07:07 .

[MaximizedAction]

SwobyJ wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

@Eryri Agree 100000000000%.

I see traces of a larger story Bioware seems to want to tell, and I want to experience it.

Seconded!

[BansheeOwnage]

@Swoby Yeah, if they intended it, it would make no sense not to reveal it on some level, at some point. If they didn't, they should be utterly humiliated for accidentally making something awesome.

[GethPrimeMKII]

Theres way too many intentional clues for them to not do something with it. Whether one figures out the ending is indoctrination or not, few people people wish to head-cannon the end of an epic trilogy. That's just a cruel thing to do to fans.

[Humakt83]

BansheeOwnage wrote...

@Swoby Yeah, if they intended it, it would make no sense not to reveal it on some level, at some point. If they didn't, they should be utterly humiliated for accidentally making something awesome.

It is show not tell. That's the only course that makes sense for them.

[Dwailing]

Simon! Good to have you back!

[TSA_383]

Ithurael wrote...

DoomsdayDevice wrote...

I'm still not holding out hope. I'm not even convinced we need a reveal. I would like to be vindicated for all the flack the literalists have given us though.

What's wrong with just leaving it at the breath scene? The evidence even shows to me - a literalist - that something is off so to speak.

but the game is over. The breath scene and the accompanying stargazer scene show that you won and the galaxy is safe. Asking for validation on this just to shove in ppls faces seems a bit low.

Okay, find me an example of a trilogy that ends with something like the breath scene.
*SHEPARD LIVES MAYBE*
*cuttoblack*

You don't end a trilogy on a cliffhanger.

[Eryri]

@TSA - now you're here there's something I wanted to ask. You're our resident expert on data mining. Is it possible that Bioware have encrypted stuff in the EC and other dlcs so thoroughly that even a really skilled data miner would be unable to break it and work out what it is?

This is in regards to the theory that all the dlcs will build up to some piece of content to get around the XBox Live 2 GB limit.

[TSA_383]

Eryri wrote...

@TSA - now you're here there's something I wanted to ask. You're our resident expert on data mining. Is it possible that Bioware have encrypted stuff in the EC and other dlcs so thoroughly that even a really skilled data miner would be unable to break it and work out what it is?

This is in regards to the theory that all the dlcs will build up to some piece of content to get around the XBox Live 2 GB limit.

No, the format's pretty much fixed. For Omega I believe they'll be cutting down on pre-rendered cinematics or shortening them where they have to have them, that's the biggest drain on space.

Basically, there's no need to leave in a lot of the stuff they left in before, but I don't think Bioware were expecting it to get so thoroughly dismantled 

Modifié par TSA_383, 29 octobre 2012 - 07:42 .

[Simon_Says]

Any goodies found in the retaliation pack?

[Eryri]

TSA_383 wrote...

No, the format's pretty much fixed. For Omega I believe they'll be cutting down on pre-rendered cinematics or shortening them where they have to have them, that's the biggest drain on space.

Basically, there's no need to leave in a lot of the stuff they left in before, but I don't think Bioware were expecting it to get so thoroughly dismantled 

Ah right. Oh well so much for that theory. Thanks for answering.

Re the bolded - wow they really don't know their own fans do they? 

Modifié par Eryri, 29 octobre 2012 - 07:53 .

[estebanus]

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Modifié par estebanus, 29 octobre 2012 - 07:57 .

[demersel]

TSA_383 wrote...

Okay, find me an example of a trilogy that ends with something like the breath scene.
*SHEPARD LIVES MAYBE*
*cuttoblack*

You don't end a trilogy on a cliffhanger.

I know this is a bad example, but actually Matrix trilogy ends on a huge "We'll see" cliffhanger. 

[TSA_383]

demersel wrote...

TSA_383 wrote...

Okay, find me an example of a trilogy that ends with something like the breath scene.
*SHEPARD LIVES MAYBE*
*cuttoblack*

You don't end a trilogy on a cliffhanger.

I know this is a bad example, but actually Matrix trilogy ends on a huge "We'll see" cliffhanger. 

Not really, you already know at that point that the people of Zion are safe (at least for now) and Neo has some kind of victory...

Simon_Says wrote...

Any goodies found in the retaliation pack?

What appeared to be a new HUD overlay tied to a new multiplayer game mode, make of that what you will 

[Bill Casey]

TSA_383 wrote...

Okay, find me an example of a trilogy that ends with something like the breath scene.
*SHEPARD LIVES MAYBE*
*cuttoblack*

You don't end a trilogy on a cliffhanger.

The Poltergeist trilogy...
Although I wouldn't call Poltergeist III something to aspire to...

Modifié par Bill Casey, 29 octobre 2012 - 08:22 .

[BatmanTurian]

So glad my internet has been out for 16 hours. Every time we get literalists in here, it makes me want to violate the promise to myself to be civil. Supports the idea that I am Rifneno-lite. Also, they're making fun of the literalist term like it doesn't make sense now. Totally hilarious.

[demersel]

TSA_383 wrote...

demersel wrote...

I know this is a bad example, but actually Matrix trilogy ends on a huge "We'll see" cliffhanger. 

Not really, you already know at that point that the people of Zion are safe (at least for now) and Neo has some kind of victory...

Not really. 
This final dialoge goes like this - Will this peace last? - I don't know, i guess we'll just have to wait and see. Will we ever see Neo again? Oh, i'm sure of it. 

And how exactly are people in Zion in any deffinition of safe? They cannot fight back if they had to. Their city is destroyed. They are given the chance to come back to the matrix if they wish or to be left alone. - (A lot of them died by that point. Some will choose to return to the matrix - zion is no longer holds the population that is dangereous to the machines. Machines can do anything they want at this point without any risk of retaliation. That is not a victory. and not peace. The machines won. It is just like the control ending of Mass effect. 

[BatmanTurian]

greengoron89
2012-10-28 10:31 PM
Lulz. "Literalist"? What, are we all members of some unified faction of anti-"ITers" now?

You people are not in your right minds. It's been eight months since the game came out, and even after the EC you still can't accept the fact that your heroes at Bioware wrote a really s***ty game, and try and rationalize it with your idiotic theory. It's a done deal, folks - ME3 happened, everything in it was real, and it will never change or be retconned to have been the result of indoctrination. The sooner you shake off your denial, the better.

I'm also not playing these games, and I reserve the right to post on this forum if I so desire... and also to call you out on your self-delusion.

BatmanTurian
2012-10-29 03:20 PM
We're not in our right minds, but you can't be bothered to think about the story in a story game. You can't be bothered to speculate when the developer says to speculate. You have turned your brain off. You project your own delusion and stupidity onto us. If you can't be bothered to think deeply about a story in a game you're playing that's ABOUT the story, then you might as well be 6-feet-under because your mind already is.

[Bill Casey]

Scott Evil becomes the new Dr. Evil at the end of the Austin Powers trilogy...