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Jade8aby88 wrote...

more on present topic.

Leviathan will only act to solidify the starchild in the plot and give foreshadowing of it. Which is ANOTHER thing that should have been in the game from the start. If you have to foreshadow your endings in dlc, then you screwed up.

Yes, i'm done believing BioWare are master genius writers. They aren't, they are human, just like you and me. And ME3 endings will forever be a skidmark on the ME franchise.


Not necessarily. This is the supposed end of a trilogy here, how else are they going to keep players invested and make dlc meaningful if it doesn't have bearing on the story or the end of said story for that matter? They already have some buttstink game website feeding into the fanbase's anger by asking "Is this dlc really worth it?"

I'm not saying you should give them a little more credit, but I do believe they know what they're doing here.

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It's funny. I finished Katawa Shoujo at pretty much the same point I stopped having any faith anymore in IT being true.

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ThisOneIsPunny wrote...

Jade8aby88 wrote...

more on present topic.

Leviathan will only act to solidify the starchild in the plot and give foreshadowing of it. Which is ANOTHER thing that should have been in the game from the start. If you have to foreshadow your endings in dlc, then you screwed up.

Yes, i'm done believing BioWare are master genius writers. They aren't, they are human, just like you and me. And ME3 endings will forever be a skidmark on the ME franchise.


Not necessarily. This is the supposed end of a trilogy here, how else are they going to keep players invested and make dlc meaningful if it doesn't have bearing on the story or the end of said story for that matter? They already have some buttstink game website feeding into the fanbase's anger by asking "Is this dlc really worth it?"

I'm not saying you should give them a little more credit, but I do believe they know what they're doing here.


Honestly, when Mass Effect 3 is all said and done, I would really be MORE surprised if they DIDN'T add more diverse and altternate endings in which we SEE Shepard survive. But CURRENTLY, they don't have any plans to address the endings and are working solely on mid-story content.

The only hope left I have is the puzzle theory. otherwise I'm waiting in anticipation of this IT fanfic ending. That would become canon permanently.

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Paxxton ya, but I think that Bioware is trying to secretly push twords IT, but the time is not right yet. People still don't understand how IT works at the end, and that's why Bioware wants us to speculate because so we can learn what the hell Bioware is planing to do.

What is needed is a comprehensive guide to IT for those who still don't know what it's all about. Hopefully, the one currently in the works will be released soon. And don't forget about the video HellishFiend and TurboJ are making. But I think that BioWare has a very precise plan on IT if it's indeed true. Such things aren't done in the spur of a moment or because we want that. They'll execute their plan how and when they want.

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estebanus wrote...

It's funny. I finished Katawa Shoujo at pretty much the same point I stopped having any faith anymore in IT being true.


estabanus lost the faith, how long ago was that?

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Jade8aby88 wrote...

estebanus wrote...

It's funny. I finished Katawa Shoujo at pretty much the same point I stopped having any faith anymore in IT being true.


estabanus lost the faith, how long ago was that?

About 15 minutes ago.

It's just... All of this crap about cryptic answers constant slef-contradicting and all that crap Bioware have been throwing at me and my (earlier) colleagues has left me pissed off, nothing else.

I'll still hang around here probably, but I'm officially not an IT believer enymore

Modifié par estebanus, 04 août 2012 - 02:29 .


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paxxton wrote...
Also, Liara has her wacky facial expression. Posted Image

Posted Image


...I forgot how warped Liara looked in ME2...

Jade8aby88 wrote...

more on present topic.

Leviathan will only act to solidify the starchild in the plot and give foreshadowing of it. Which is ANOTHER thing that should have been in the game from the start. If you have to foreshadow your endings in dlc, then you screwed up.

Yes, i'm done believing BioWare are master genius writers. They aren't, they are human, just like you and me. And ME3 endings will forever be a skidmark on the ME franchise.

Unless they've totally changed the script and therefore overarching plot since the data leak 2 months ago... then no, it'll do the exact opposite.

Leviathan is made up of the first species that the intelligence which they created attempted to force into its ideal of synthesis.

How on earth can that not come along and make it really ****ing clear that it's a trick and the reaper AI has another agenda?

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estebanus wrote...

It's funny. I finished Katawa Shoujo at pretty much the same point I stopped having any faith anymore in IT being true.

*facepalm* first time in all 3 threads

Modifié par paxxton, 04 août 2012 - 02:29 .


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paxxton wrote...

estebanus wrote...

It's funny. I finished Katawa Shoujo at pretty much the same point I stopped having any faith anymore in IT being true.

*facepalm* first time in all 3 threads

I'm sorry, what?

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TSA_383 wrote...
Unless they've totally changed the script and therefore overarching plot since the data leak 2 months ago... then no, it'll do the exact opposite.

Leviathan is made up of the first species that the intelligence which they created attempted to force into its ideal of synthesis.

How on earth can that not come along and make it really ****ing clear that it's a trick and the reaper AI has another agenda?


Staying objective here:
By Bioware not releasing any post-ME3 ending DLC?

Modifié par MaximizedAction, 04 août 2012 - 02:33 .


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estebanus wrote...

paxxton wrote...

estebanus wrote...

It's funny. I finished Katawa Shoujo at pretty much the same point I stopped having any faith anymore in IT being true.

*facepalm* first time in all 3 threads

I'm sorry, what?

I never used facepalm before.
http://www.urbandict...?term=/facepalm

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TSA_383 wrote...

paxxton wrote...
Also, Liara has her wacky facial expression. Posted Image

*image snip*


...I forgot how warped Liara looked in ME2...

Jade8aby88 wrote...

more on present topic.

Leviathan will only act to solidify the starchild in the plot and give foreshadowing of it. Which is ANOTHER thing that should have been in the game from the start. If you have to foreshadow your endings in dlc, then you screwed up.

Yes, i'm done believing BioWare are master genius writers. They aren't, they are human, just like you and me. And ME3 endings will forever be a skidmark on the ME franchise.

Unless they've totally changed the script and therefore overarching plot since the data leak 2 months ago... then no, it'll do the exact opposite.

Leviathan is made up of the first species that the intelligence which they created attempted to force into its ideal of synthesis.

How on earth can that not come along and make it really ****ing clear that it's a trick and the reaper AI has another agenda?


I saw that data leak too, if that doesn't make it clear something is up, I don't know what will.

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paxxton wrote...

estebanus wrote...

paxxton wrote...

estebanus wrote...

It's funny. I finished Katawa Shoujo at pretty much the same point I stopped having any faith anymore in IT being true.

*facepalm* first time in all 3 threads

I'm sorry, what?

I never used facepalm before.
http://www.urbandict...?term=/facepalm

Why facepalm? I still support the IT, but I just don't believe it anymore. That's as easy it is.

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estebanus wrote...

Jade8aby88 wrote...

estebanus wrote...

It's funny. I finished Katawa Shoujo at pretty much the same point I stopped having any faith anymore in IT being true.


estabanus lost the faith, how long ago was that?

About 15 minutes ago.

It's just... All of this crap about cryptic answers constant slef-contradicting and all that crap Bioware have been throwing at me and my (earlier) colleagues has left me pissed off, nothing else.

I'll still hang around here probably, but I'm officially not an IT believer enymore

have you had a look at my puzzle theory?

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estebanus wrote...

paxxton wrote...

estebanus wrote...

paxxton wrote...

estebanus wrote...

It's funny. I finished Katawa Shoujo at pretty much the same point I stopped having any faith anymore in IT being true.

*facepalm* first time in all 3 threads

I'm sorry, what?

I never used facepalm before.
http://www.urbandict...?term=/facepalm

Why facepalm? I still support the IT, but I just don't believe it anymore. That's as easy it is.

Well, it wasn't clear from what you wrote. I thought you became a "BioWare-sucks" literalist. So you just think IT wasn't planned at all?

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F*ck, that's it. My last shimmer of hope well and truly gone...

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Jade8aby88 wrote...

estebanus wrote...

Jade8aby88 wrote...

estebanus wrote...

It's funny. I finished Katawa Shoujo at pretty much the same point I stopped having any faith anymore in IT being true.


estabanus lost the faith, how long ago was that?

About 15 minutes ago.

It's just... All of this crap about cryptic answers constant slef-contradicting and all that crap Bioware have been throwing at me and my (earlier) colleagues has left me pissed off, nothing else.

I'll still hang around here probably, but I'm officially not an IT believer enymore

have you had a look at my puzzle theory?

Yeah, when you created it.

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TSA_383 wrote...

Trollgunner wrote...

TSA_383 wrote...

*wall of text*


So bioware is followoing the scheme "Why kill chiken if it still lays eggs?"  It's about not putting down ME franchaise , and preparing us for ME4. 
About that message....hm, I bever heard it, so thanks for bringing it here. And once again Bioware saying the same ald thing "We won't change endings *beetwen the lines: because we already know how it will end*, but DLC will affect the ending *beetween the lines : now you only see the tip of the iceberg, we will show you the rest*. 
I know that a lot of IT'ers already knew that, but I just want to add something.

P.S Sorry for bad english, I'm trying my best when writing in it.

Yeah, that's the basics of it :lol:
By the way, what is your first language? We seem to have a lot of native german speakers on here


I was away. Ahem, my native language is russian, although, I'm learning 5  languages right now =_='''

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estebanus wrote...

F*ck, that's it. My last shimmer of hope well and truly gone...


What put the nail in the coffin?

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estebanus wrote...

F*ck, that's it. My last shimmer of hope well and truly gone...

You had little faith. *facepalm* Posted Image

Modifié par paxxton, 04 août 2012 - 02:42 .


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paxxton wrote...

Well, it wasn't clear from what you wrote. I thought you became a "BioWare-sucks" literalist. So you just think IT wasn't planned at all?

No, I'm saying that I think they never intended it, and that they'll probably (hopefully I'm wrong) never implement it in-game. But I won't say that Bioware sucks. Because I know they don't, and I'll never stoop down to that level of vulgarity.

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I was away. Ahem, my native language is russian, although, I'm learning 5  languages right now =_='''


:lol: Hey, I'm also a native russian speaker! 5 languages are impressive.

Modifié par MaximizedAction, 04 août 2012 - 02:45 .


#4123
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Jade8aby88 wrote...

ThisOneIsPunny wrote...

Jade8aby88 wrote...

more on present topic.

Leviathan will only act to solidify the starchild in the plot and give foreshadowing of it. Which is ANOTHER thing that should have been in the game from the start. If you have to foreshadow your endings in dlc, then you screwed up.

Yes, i'm done believing BioWare are master genius writers. They aren't, they are human, just like you and me. And ME3 endings will forever be a skidmark on the ME franchise.


Not necessarily. This is the supposed end of a trilogy here, how else are they going to keep players invested and make dlc meaningful if it doesn't have bearing on the story or the end of said story for that matter? They already have some buttstink game website feeding into the fanbase's anger by asking "Is this dlc really worth it?"

I'm not saying you should give them a little more credit, but I do believe they know what they're doing here.


Honestly, when Mass Effect 3 is all said and done, I would really be MORE surprised if they DIDN'T add more diverse and altternate endings in which we SEE Shepard survive. But CURRENTLY, they don't have any plans to address the endings and are working solely on mid-story content.

The only hope left I have is the puzzle theory. otherwise I'm waiting in anticipation of this IT fanfic ending. That would become canon permanently.

I think Leviathan is going to be a little more than mid story content. I think a lot of ME3 dlc is not only going to be a step up from ME2 dlc, but likely add things we don't expect. Like a certain day one dlc that added a snippy prothean who gave quite a lot of insight during Thessia? Which, now that I think about it, really makes me wonder what the Omega dlc is going to be like..

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estebanus wrote...

It's funny. I finished Katawa Shoujo at pretty much the same point I stopped having any faith anymore in IT being true.


I am disappoint in you estebanus!

Which route did you do?

Also, do you have 100% of the scenes in the KS Library? If not, you're not done!

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paxxton wrote...

estebanus wrote...

F*ck, that's it. My last shimmer of hope well and truly gone...

You had little faith. *facepalm* Posted Image

Paxxton, I was a believer from day 1. I had faith in it stronger than you could possibly imgaine. But, reflecting on it, all of what has happened... I just can't find it in my heart any longer to believe in it. I'm sorry.

And believe me, this hurts me alot. One of the biggest thigs that has consumed my time on the internet was being here with you guys. And I still will, just not as one of you any longer.