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[masster blaster]

BansheeOwnage wrote...

Red vs. Blue! Byne??? I AM MICHAEL J. CABOOSE!

TOP!

Poor Grif 20 times!
Also is it me, or did everyone in this episode kick ***?

[BatmanTurian]

Big_Boss9 wrote...

Simon_Says wrote...

Big_Boss9 wrote...

Could we please stop bringing up AC3? I would rather not be spoiled. Respectfully, take it elsewhere.

Snape killed his sled.

Damn you Simon!  

OT: In the thick of Sandy in SE PA. Luckily, still have power. Hope my fellow posters in the affected areas are safe and sound.

I'm getting hit by the outskirts of Sandy here in Central Ohio and it's snowing...

[Fur28]

masster blaster wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

Red vs. Blue! Byne??? I AM MICHAEL J. CABOOSE!

TOP!

Poor Grif 20 times!
Also is it me, or did everyone in this episode kick ***?

Love Donut still using sticky granades on Tex

[BansheeOwnage]

masster blaster wrote...

Sorry I was only trying to quote what people have been saying. I haven't seen it, but that's what people are saying.

MassterBlaster...

That's exactly how blind hate for ME3's ending instead of an in-depth analysis got started. That's how racism spreads. That's why countless other bad things happen. People don't think for themselves, experience something, and make their own conclusions. Please,

please -

don't blindly repeat things other people have said.

[spotlessvoid]

I'm in Baltimore and it's lots of rain and wind. Reminds me of growing up in Belgium lol.

Modifié par spotlessvoid, 30 octobre 2012 - 02:17 .

[BansheeOwnage]

Fur28 wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

Red vs. Blue! Byne??? I AM MICHAEL J. CABOOSE!

TOP!

Poor Grif 20 times!
Also is it me, or did everyone in this episode kick ***?

Love Donut still using sticky granades on Tex

That was funny.

Be back later!

[plfranke]

BansheeOwnage wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

Sorry I was only trying to quote what people have been saying. I haven't seen it, but that's what people are saying.

MassterBlaster...

That's exactly how blind hate for ME3's ending instead of an in-depth analysis got started. That's how racism spreads. That's why countless other bad things happen. People don't think for themselves, experience something, and make their own conclusions. Please,

please -

don't blindly repeat things other people have said.

While he shouldn't blindly repeat things other people have said, I disagree with your assertion that the only people who hate me3 endings or racists are only happening because people are blindly following the pack. Many people rationalize their hate towards me3 and their discriminations.

[BatmanTurian]

plfranke wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

Sorry I was only trying to quote what people have been saying. I haven't seen it, but that's what people are saying.

MassterBlaster...

That's exactly how blind hate for ME3's ending instead of an in-depth analysis got started. That's how racism spreads. That's why countless other bad things happen. People don't think for themselves, experience something, and make their own conclusions. Please,

please -

don't blindly repeat things other people have said.

While he shouldn't blindly repeat things other people have said, I disagree with your assertion that the only people who hate me3 endings or racists are only happening because people are blindly following the pack. Many people rationalize their hate towards me3 and their discriminations.

But many more people just follow the herd. People are stupid. Individuals are not.

[BansheeOwnage]

BatmanTurian wrote...

plfranke wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

Sorry I was only trying to quote what people have been saying. I haven't seen it, but that's what people are saying.

MassterBlaster...

That's exactly how blind hate for ME3's ending instead of an in-depth analysis got started. That's how racism spreads. That's why countless other bad things happen. People don't think for themselves, experience something, and make their own conclusions. Please,

please -

don't blindly repeat things other people have said.

While he shouldn't blindly repeat things other people have said, I disagree with your assertion that the only people who hate me3 endings or racists are only happening because people are blindly following the pack. Many people rationalize their hate towards me3 and their discriminations.

But many more people just follow the herd. People are stupid. Individuals are not.

I think I said something like that once...

@Frank Sorry, I didn't mean for those to be all related. They're unrelated, but sometimes their root issues are similar. And yes, people can hate the ME3 ending for good reasons. But I was just talking about the pack.

[BatmanTurian]

BansheeOwnage wrote...

BatmanTurian wrote...

plfranke wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

Sorry I was only trying to quote what people have been saying. I haven't seen it, but that's what people are saying.

MassterBlaster...

That's exactly how blind hate for ME3's ending instead of an in-depth analysis got started. That's how racism spreads. That's why countless other bad things happen. People don't think for themselves, experience something, and make their own conclusions. Please,

please -

don't blindly repeat things other people have said.

While he shouldn't blindly repeat things other people have said, I disagree with your assertion that the only people who hate me3 endings or racists are only happening because people are blindly following the pack. Many people rationalize their hate towards me3 and their discriminations.

But many more people just follow the herd. People are stupid. Individuals are not.

I think I said something like that once...

@Frank Sorry, I didn't mean for those to be all related. They're unrelated, but sometimes their root issues are similar. And yes, people can hate the ME3 ending for good reasons. But I was just talking about the pack.

I can't find who the original person you quoted it from is but it's been around for a while.

Modifié par BatmanTurian, 30 octobre 2012 - 02:25 .

[BleedingUranium]

Fur28 wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

Red vs. Blue! Byne??? I AM MICHAEL J. CABOOSE!

TOP!

Poor Grif 20 times!
Also is it me, or did everyone in this episode kick ***?

Love Donut still using sticky granades on Tex

And Wash saving Donut  Honestly, this episode of RvB is exactly what all of us wanted for the finale of Mass Effect. Just like the suicide mission, it's a group of friends, a team, all working together. Like LotR too.

[BatmanTurian]

I don't understand why everyone thinks AC3's ending is bad. I think it's good but whatever. Clearly, I have no taste.

[BleedingUranium]

BatmanTurian wrote...

I don't understand why everyone thinks AC3's ending is bad. I think it's good but whatever. Clearly, I have no taste.

I haven't played any of the AC games, but you said it's been foreshadowed since the beginning. Like in the way IT has been? I don't mean in content, but in concept.

[Fur28]

BleedingUranium wrote...

Fur28 wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

Red vs. Blue! Byne??? I AM MICHAEL J. CABOOSE!

TOP!

Poor Grif 20 times!
Also is it me, or did everyone in this episode kick ***?

Love Donut still using sticky granades on Tex

And Wash saving Donut  Honestly, this episode of RvB is exactly what all of us wanted for the finale of Mass Effect. Just like the suicide mission, it's a group of friends, a team, all working together. Like LotR too.

Yeah i would´ve love that in Priority:Earth with some of your squadmates trought the trilogy.
Also the episode was really good because it was full of fanservise of memorable moments of the series

[DoomsdayDevice]

masster blaster wrote...

Doomsday do you mind if I see the IT quote thread. I would like to read it, and see if there is anything I can add. Don't worry I wont mess up the quote.

MB! Glad to have you back!

Now don't go on another rampage, it will only get you banned.

Sure dude, be my guest, the quote thread is for all of us to use. It's in the IT group, but the link is also in my signature.

I still need to categorize everything into one more comprehensive list.

If you have anything that isn't there yet, feel free to post it. But don't overdo it.

We're specifically looking for quotes that foreshadow the ending(s), anti-control, anti-synthesis, destroy-supporting, 4th wall breaking, illusion/nightmare/dream references, that sort of stuff.

Modifié par DoomsdayDevice, 30 octobre 2012 - 02:53 .

[BatmanTurian]

BleedingUranium wrote...

BatmanTurian wrote...

I don't understand why everyone thinks AC3's ending is bad. I think it's good but whatever. Clearly, I have no taste.

I haven't played any of the AC games, but you said it's been foreshadowed since the beginning. Like in the way IT has been? I don't mean in content, but in concept.

Yes, the end of the world was coming and both templars and Assassins were trying to stop it in different ways but ended up just messing each other up.

[Simon_Says]

What's this about Blaster getting banned?

[BatmanTurian]

Simon_Says wrote...

What's this about Blaster getting banned?

it was a speculation, nothing more. He couldn't post with his account temporarily.

[Dwailing]

So, AC3's ending is... different? Well, what else do you EXPECT from AC? A "safe" ending? Come on people, this is a series built on massive twists in the endings.

[Dwailing]

Additionally, I think I'm becoming more comfortable with the idea of a more ambiguous ending. I mean, I'm no longer in end of the world mode. I still want them to reveal IT, and still think they will, but if it remains merely an interpretation rather than a definite, I think I'll be OK with that.

[masster blaster]

BatmanTurian wrote...

Simon_Says wrote...

What's this about Blaster getting banned?

it was a speculation, nothing more. He couldn't post with his account temporarily.

 

[masster blaster]

DoomsdayDevice wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

Doomsday do you mind if I see the IT quote thread. I would like to read it, and see if there is anything I can add. Don't worry I wont mess up the quote.

MB! Glad to have you back!

Now don't go on another rampage, it will only get you banned.

Sure dude, be my guest, the quote thread is for all of us to use. It's in the IT group, but the link is also in my signature.

I still need to categorize everything into one more comprehensive list.

If you have anything that isn't there yet, feel free to post it. But don't overdo it.

We're specifically looking for quotes that foreshadow the ending(s), anti-control, anti-synthesis, destroy-supporting, 4th wall breaking, illusion/nightmare/dream references, that sort of stuff.

Thanks and I added my 2 cents.

[Dwailing]

So, are masster and I really the only ones here?

[masster blaster]

Dwailing wrote...

So, are masster and I really the only ones here?

I guess so, and it's funny when we stop for an hour ago the Synthesis, and Control threads came alive again.


Also Leviathan ya can take the apperance of Shepards memories of the people he/she has meet, and objects as well. The end you can say is Shepar's memorys being used against him/her to feel like everything is real.

Modifié par masster blaster, 30 octobre 2012 - 03:45 .

[inko1nsiderate]

So I'm not a proponent of IT by any means, and I apologize if people have already said this before but I've been thinking about IT and the EC. I have no idea what the state of current IT thought is, so pardon me if I say something that doesn't fit in with the ongoing conversation.

A lot of people seem to think it weakens IT, but I'd disagree. I think it strengthens it, or at worst doesn't do anything to it.

Why? The symbolism of the end choice work and the resulting cinematics.

Before the weird dream like bit Shepard pauses in the line of fire of Harbinger. A quick roll and Shepard probably could dodge enough out of the way to survive. Go left, or go right, and Shepard lives. Then we have the final choice:

Left side is control, right side is destroy, middle is jumping into the beam and dying.

So really, the choice represents Shepard dodging or not. And this is reflected in the final cutscenes. If you choose control, Shepard survives but is indoctrinated. Symbolically her body is burnt away, but this is all happening inside her head so it represents indoctrination. The final cutscene literally shows Shepard's visage inside a Reaper. Shepard is gooified and is literally in a Reaper if she is indoctrinated. The video doesn't show any lies, only misrepresentations. Shepard's dialogue is her indoctrinated envisioning of what is really happening. The Reapers loom around the cities that are being rebuilt, but in reality these cities exist inside the Reapers themselves. It is like the matrix, but the minds contained within a Reaper are all indoctrinated (hence the Reapers helping them, yet no sign of violence against Reapers).

A similar thing happens for Synthesis, only Shepard was just vaporized and everyone else is indoctrinated. EDI narrates because she was re-purposed by the Reapers, sort of like the Geth but not quite, and the green circuitry and the unification of machine and man is EDI's 'version' of indoctrination. It is what she wanted, and so it is the vision that lets the Reapers control her. While she is an AI, she was a fully thinking AI, and so unlike the Geth the Reapers' control of her is more like indoctrination than hacking a machine.

And then finally we have Destroy. Shepard dodges the beam, is hurt from the explosion, but lives to fight another day as she has not been indoctrinated. The scenes in the slide show and Hackett's voice over are Shepard's will fighting to wake up and get back into the fight (and a bit of Hackett actually talking over the radio).

Anyway, it seems to fit pretty nicely into IT. Particularly because the choices visually mirror the 3 choices Shepard has to get out of the way of Harbinger's blast right before the 'dream sequence' starts.

Like I said, I don't believe IT, I don't follow this thread, and so I apologize if what I'm saying is trivial, has been said a million times, or is incredibly stupid and useless to the current state of IT thinking.

Modifié par inko1nsiderate, 30 octobre 2012 - 03:48 .