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[ThisOneIsPunny]

So the kinect function is pretty important and-Wait, come back! Bear with me here!

Remember how every now and then someone brings up how this is very possibly a mass experiment dealing with real life indoctrination?
The PC has all three games
The PS3 only has ME2 and ME3
The 360 has all three games, AND the kinect function.

What's important about the Kinect function is-Oh come on, I'm almost done! Get back here!
The Kinect function easily makes an ME3 playthrough more personal due to the player being able to speak Shepard's choice. Has anyone actually done a playthrough entirely using the Kinect for choices? It's hard to deadpan when you hit certain conversations.

So my point is this, maybe one of these is the control, maybe the others are variables, including the upcoming WII-U version, and maybe some of us aren't so wrong in this being a huge experiment.(But still Indoctrination Theory, because you know... Yeah..)

[Eryri]

Davik Kang wrote...

Eryri wrote...
I remember watching an episode of Horizon (Nova in the US) which went way over my head, about how some infinities included others as subsets - like the set of odd numbers is infinite, but is still somehow less than the set of odd numbers plus even numbers?

In the example you gave, you know that there are infinite odd numbers because no matter what odd you number you came up with in your head, you could always come up with a bigger one, just by adding 2 or putting another odd number on the end).  But for every odd number, you also have an even number (just add 1 to get a unique even number for every odd number).  So you can see that there are the same number of odd and even numbers (even though both are infinite).

So if you kept counting all the odd numbers forever and theoretically reached infinity, you'd have double that number of all positive natural numbers (in other words odd numbers + even numbers).  So your infinite set is twice as large.  But for practical purposes this stuff doesn't have too many uses in every day life so it's not worth taking too much time thinking over really 

Thanks Davik and Restrider. This stuff is pretty mindbending, but it's a bit beyond me to be honest. That's why I did Biology at college - easier maths.

By the way Davik, please don't think my sarcastic comment from yesterday was directed at you. It was the one I made making fun of synthesis supporters which I later removed because it was a bit mean and childish, and I didn't want to offend LDS Darth Revan who seems a very reasonable person.

[Davik Kang]

Eryri wrote...
Thanks Davik and Restrider. This stuff is pretty mindbending, but it's a bit beyond me to be honest. That's why I did Biology at college - easier maths.

By the way Davik, please don't think my sarcastic comment from yesterday was directed at you. It was the one I made making fun of synthesis supporters which I later removed because it was a bit mean and childish, and I didn't want to offend LDS Darth Revan who seems a very reasonable person.

I appreciate the apology cos it's difficult to apologise for stuff, especially on a forum like this where anonymity allows people to act like total d***wads without consequences.  But once I again I have to admit that I didn't notice anything that I might have construed offensively.  So as I said before, lucky for me.

For the record, so you know where I stand, I support IT and think it's an excellent theory which covers a lot of the confusing aspects of Priority:Earth.  I also think that the implications of IT were intended by the writers.  It's just that I don't think IT is actually the correct ending, nor do I think it is the only reasonable explanation for the ending.  But I spend a lot of time in this thread because most of the members here can actually think for themselves and present an argument, as well as seeing good and bad sides to that argument.  

It's basically enjoyable to talk about the game and try and figure out what certain aspects of the game might have been alluding to, rather than trade insults and dump unfunny meme pictures all over the place, which is what happens in most of the threads on BSN unfortunately.

Modifié par Davik Kang, 31 octobre 2012 - 12:07 .

[Eryri]

Davik Kang wrote...
But I spend a lot of time in this thread because most of the members here can actually think for themselves and present an argument, as well as seeing good and bad sides to that argument.  

It's basically enjoyable to talk about the game and try and figure out what certain aspects of the game might have been alluding to, rather than trade insults and dump unfunny meme pictures all over the place, which is what happens in most of the threads on BSN unfortunately.

Agreed. This is by far the most positive thread. I find myself feeling a bit depressed after reading some of the others.

[Mixon]

So much time passed. Still trust in IT. IT is so powerful aspect of ME3 that Shepard just can't pass.

[Restrider]

I'm surprised that there are no regular troll invasions in this thread, considering the general reputation of IT in the rest of BSN.

But I guess Chris Priestly's posts in the past, to leave this thread alone if someone is not eager to argument on a civil and reasonable basis, has been like some kind of firewall against the troll hordes that are ravaging other threads.

Modifié par Restrider, 31 octobre 2012 - 12:22 .

[Rifneno]

"Does this unit have a soul?" - Legion, on the humanity (for lack of a better word) of geth

"Stand amongst the ashes of a trillion dead souls and ask the ghosts if honor matters." - Javik, on what it will take to defeat the Reapers

HOW HAVE I NEVER NOTICED THIS BEFORE! It's just mindblowing how much you can look into this game, for so long, and still find stuff like this.

[Dwailing]

Rifneno wrote...

"Does this unit have a soul?" - Legion, on the humanity (for lack of a better word) of geth

"Stand amongst the ashes of a trillion dead souls and ask the ghosts if honor matters." - Javik, on what it will take to defeat the Reapers

HOW HAVE I NEVER NOTICED THIS BEFORE! It's just mindblowing how much you can look into this game, for so long, and still find stuff like this.

http://www.cheshirec...eeves-whoa/2536

[CmdrShep80]

Raistlin Majare 1992 wrote...

spotlessvoid wrote...

Cant find the exact quote of the Rachni Queen message in ME2. Anyone?

"Shepard, we hide, we burrow, we build. But we know you seek those who soured the songs of our mothers and when the time comes our song will join with yours and our crescendo will burn the darkness clean. Thank you Shepard, the Rachni will sing again because of you"

Also my favorite game series is actually not Mass Effect, but Legend of Zelda despite my interest in IT.

+1 for Zelda. Looking forward to the Wii U Zelda?  I hope they deliver what we saw on the trailer of Wii U tech demo. That would be sooo awesome!

[CmdrShep80]

Rifneno wrote...

*snip*

- It's designed to help with a superweapon to destroy the Reapers, but it'll only respond to a race that knew they were being wiped out?  That makes less than no sense.  They supposedly left that thing there for the asari to finish what they started, but it'll never do that because it'll only trigger for Protheans.  WTF?

remind me again who said that?  Vendetta, Liara, or someone else?

EDIT fixed who quoted

Modifié par CmdrShep80, 31 octobre 2012 - 12:51 .

[CmdrShep80]

Hrothdane wrote...

infinite_regress wrote...
But I don't really think his tweet is truly all that relevant.

Probably not, but you never know for sure until you investigate.

The investigation itself is even kinda fun

+1 and +1 to having fun investigating in Leviathan. I enjoyed that part of the game. As long as they don't make it all one big investigation and no other parts of RPG or FPS

[Restrider]

Rifneno wrote...

"Does this unit have a soul?" - Legion, on the humanity (for lack of a better word) of geth

"Stand amongst the ashes of a trillion dead souls and ask the ghosts if honor matters. The silence will be your answer." - Javik, on what it will take to defeat the Reapers

HOW HAVE I NEVER NOTICED THIS BEFORE! It's just mindblowing how much you can look into this game, for so long, and still find stuff like this.

I agree and I added the best part of Javik's quote. I really love that line...

[Rifneno]

Nintendo. Bringing you last generation's technology this generation and a controller designed with the help of LSD!

CmdrShep80 wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

*snip*

- It's designed to help with a superweapon to destroy the Reapers, but it'll only respond to a race that knew they were being wiped out? That makes less than no sense. They supposedly left that thing there for the asari to finish what they started, but it'll never do that because it'll only trigger for Protheans. WTF?

remind me again who said that? Vendetta, Liara, or someone else?

Which part? I can't remember who pointed what out but it was readily apparent that Vendetta was responding to Shepard because it thought he was a Prothean due to the cipher. He didn't care much about the actual Prothean, but I just figured he was programmed by Microsoft. It was of course also obvious that he was designed to help with the Crucible. Which he didn't do until after Cerberus hacked him to make him.

Modifié par Rifneno, 31 octobre 2012 - 12:45 .

[Raistlin Majare 1992]

CmdrShep80 wrote...

Raistlin Majare 1992 wrote...

spotlessvoid wrote...

Cant find the exact quote of the Rachni Queen message in ME2. Anyone?

"Shepard, we hide, we burrow, we build. But we know you seek those who soured the songs of our mothers and when the time comes our song will join with yours and our crescendo will burn the darkness clean. Thank you Shepard, the Rachni will sing again because of you"

Also my favorite game series is actually not Mass Effect, but Legend of Zelda despite my interest in IT.

+1 for Zelda. Looking forward to the Wii U Zelda?  I hope they deliver what we saw on the trailer of Wii U tech demo. That would be sooo awesome!

Dont expect it, Nintendo seem more inclined to continue with a style closer to Skyward Sword from what I have heard. But nothing certain yet. What i do know about it however is that Nintendo supposedly has the biggest team they have ever gathered working on the WiiU Zelda, so that sounds promising.

But yeah I am so looking forward to the next Legend of Zelda, be it 3DS or WiiU, whichever comes first. Also hope they release the hinted Majora´s Mask remake for WiiU or at least 3DS, could be sweet.

[CmdrShep80]

Raistlin Majare 1992 wrote...

*snip*

EDI: "Using Garneau´s data I should be able to accomplish this without difficulty"

Notice they shield it purely by EDI modifiying an existing shield from what we see and "without difficulty" as she says.

Another interesting tidbit from that conversation is that Shepard asks why they werent affected while the Artifact was exposed and EDI mentions that it might be tied to the amount of time spent near the Artifact.

EDI then drops this gem: "With enough exposure the Artifact allows Leviathan an impressive mind control ability."

Crossreference that with Leviathans comment on how the Reapers perfected the mind control and the implications become very unpleasant. But that is nothing new.

huh. I wonder why we didn't look into this at all to install in ships or make a personal box?  You would think this would be important in some way to protecting yourself. Yet no character mentions or even uses it to create a dampening field that could possibly affect how the reapers use the mind control

[CmdrShep80]

Raistlin Majare 1992 wrote...

CmdrShep80 wrote...

Raistlin Majare 1992 wrote...

spotlessvoid wrote...

Cant find the exact quote of the Rachni Queen message in ME2. Anyone?

"Shepard, we hide, we burrow, we build. But we know you seek those who soured the songs of our mothers and when the time comes our song will join with yours and our crescendo will burn the darkness clean. Thank you Shepard, the Rachni will sing again because of you"

Also my favorite game series is actually not Mass Effect, but Legend of Zelda despite my interest in IT. 

+1 for Zelda. Looking forward to the Wii U Zelda?  I hope they deliver what we saw on the trailer of Wii U tech demo. That would be sooo awesome!

Dont expect it, Nintendo seem more inclined to continue with a style closer to Skyward Sword from what I have heard. But nothing certain yet. What i do know about it however is that Nintendo supposedly has the biggest team they have ever gathered working on the WiiU Zelda, so that sounds promising. 

But yeah I am so looking forward to the next Legend of Zelda, be it 3DS or WiiU, whichever comes first. Also hope they release the hinted Majora´s Mask remake for WiiU or at least 3DS, could be sweet. 

I want a 3ds version of majora's mask. I really liked that game. If they give it the same treatment as the other game it's a definite buy

[shadoww6021]

Sareth Cousland wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

"Does this unit have a soul?" - Legion, on the humanity (for lack of a better word) of geth

"Stand amongst the ashes of a trillion dead souls and ask the ghosts if honor matters." - Javik, on what it will take to defeat the Reapers

HOW HAVE I NEVER NOTICED THIS BEFORE! It's just mindblowing how much you can look into this game, for so long, and still find stuff like this.

Javik is a more in-your-face Garrus as a guide to prepare you for the final decision. It's like with most DLC before (Arrival, Overlord) - if you buy DLC, you are more likely to understand what is going on in the decision chamber - or at least pick the right choice.

this is good in some sense, though bioware are really overmilking this.

[CmdrShep80]

Rifneno wrote...

Nintendo. Bringing you last generation's technology this generation and a controller designed with the help of LSD!

CmdrShep80 wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

*snip*

- It's designed to help with a superweapon to destroy the Reapers, but it'll only respond to a race that knew they were being wiped out? That makes less than no sense. They supposedly left that thing there for the asari to finish what they started, but it'll never do that because it'll only trigger for Protheans. WTF?

remind me again who said that? Vendetta, Liara, or someone else?

Which part? I can't remember who pointed what out but it was readily apparent that Vendetta was responding to Shepard because it thought he was a Prothean due to the cipher. He didn't care much about the actual[/b] Prothean, but I just figured he was programmed by Microsoft. It was of course also obvious that he was designed to help with the Crucible. Which he didn't do until after Cerberus hacked him to make him.

The part I left. Was it the VI who said it or someone else?

[CmdrShep80]

 Hey remember that tweet about evil Chris going to London and Cardiff. It does relate to ME. Under the Me forum announcements there's an older forum where Chris himself posts the following:

Chris Priestly wrote...

We already have some awesome plans in place with Lion Martinez & our Nordic team. Check it out:

Gamex, Stockholm Sweden 2-4th of November[/b]
 
We’re really excited to for the first time directly meet our Nordic fans, as the BioWare EU Tour will stop and visit Gamex in Stockholm, Sweden between the 2-4th of November! 

If you live in Sweden, you definitely want to come out to Gamex and say hi as we will host a series of activities and events, both on and off location. These include everything from just answering your community questions to panel Q&A, signing and giving away some cool swag, early N7 Day Celebrations and even an offsite fan meet and greet and more!
 
If you live in Denmark, Finland or Norway and can’t make it, don’t worry. There’s a chance to win a trip to Gamex through our local Facebook Pages! You can read more about GameX HERE or:
 
…your local BioWare Facebook Page:
 
http://www.facebook.com/BioWareSE
 
http://www.facebook.com/BioWareDK
 
http://www.facebook.com/BioWareFI
 
http://www.facebook.com/BioWareNO
 
Any questions, please contact Nordic Community Manager Lion Martinez at nordicevents@ea.com or by following his Twitter (Lion_Martinez).
 
Well met at Gamex, guys!

Modifié par CmdrShep80, 31 octobre 2012 - 01:01 .

[Restrider]

Shamelessly advertising my new poll.

[Davik Kang]

Hrothdane wrote...

LDS Darth Revan wrote...

PsiMatrix wrote...

So; my playthrough is now taking me through ME2. And Joker said something that made me wonder: "Cerberus is about a three-headed dog, the guardian of hell and yet there's only one guy running it". Since TIM is indoctrinated and 'Cerberus is an idea'; possibly related to the three choices we make?

Actually, i believe they are named Cerberus because Cerberus was the guard dog of the gates of Hades, who the Romans calledPluto, which is the planetoid that the Charon Relay,the gateway to the galaxy, orbited. So basically it's them saying they are the guardians of Earth/humanity to make sure no threat passes through the gate.

Cerberus's job was also to keep the people already in Hades from leaving.

This is something I'd looked at too when I was looking hardcore into various things.  I noticed that there is a hexagon at the middle of many tech screens and wondered if the hexagon somehow represented technology.  The Cerberus logo has a hexagon with an opening at the bottom - so if technology = hell  is the theme, then the black gates at the lower boarder would represent Cerberus guarding the gate.  

The implication I got was - the gate to technology/hell is open for humanity, but once in, Cerberus will close the gate shut to stop anybody geting out.  I kind of saw it as Cerberus ensuring humanity's dependence upon and celebration of technology, by stopping them from ever taking a step back, directing them to embrace technology further and further, as they demonstrate by their eagerness to adopt synthetic technology as improvement wherever possible, and to acquire further tech to improve themselves and humanity.  

The vague idea being that thereby humanity - via Cerberus ideals - becomes trapped by technology itself, and cannot ever go back.  It's reaching quite far but I think it makes sense in a way.

The symbolism of the Charon relay was that this was an adventure out into the unknown, but it was also going into a place from where we would never be able to return.

[CmdrShep80]

 Sorry I don't have time to translate it but here's the Bioware Gamex schedule:

Edit - fixed what I put on here. Still will probably show up weird. 


På Gamex får besökarna träffa turnéns medföljare, BioWare Edmontons (Mass Effect, Dragon Age) globala Community Managers Jessica Merizan och Chris Priestly, samt den globala cosplayproffsen Crabcat Industries genom Holly Conrad som Cmdr. Shepard, Mass Effect-serien.BioWare/EA’s Nordiska Community Manager, Lion Martinez är arrangör och koordinator för aktiviteterna som kommer att genomföras här på Gamex.BioWare EU Tour besöker även MCMX Expo i London, England samt Paris Games Week i Paris, Frankrike. 08-506 650 89gital@artexis.seMarika Metsola Renström, pressansvarig Artexis08-506 650 35marika.renstrom@artexis.se070-877 63 90 nordicevents@ea.comTwitter: @lion_martinez

Modifié par CmdrShep80, 31 octobre 2012 - 01:09 .

[CmdrShep80]

Yep it did. Well they're doing an early n7 party on the 4th with Q and A

Tries again:


Aktiviteter under Gamex
Fredag 2 november
Allmänt besök
Kl 17.00 – Biovisning, konferensrum E4
BioWare Gamex After Party
Lördag 3 november
Kl 11.00 – Besök på Sci Fi Bokhandeln
Kl 13.00 – Cosplay Session med Holly Conrad, EA Booth Cosplay Corner
Kl 16.00 – Q&A Panel, ställ frågor till BioWare, Stars on Stage
Söndag 4 november
Kl 13.00 – N7 Precelebration! Öppen Q&A-panel, swag signings, EA Booth
Kl 15.00 – Biovisning, konferensrum E4

[CmdrShep80]

Yay it worked. EDIT - reposts for top. Also will anyone from here be able to attend and do the Q n A and attend the rest maybe?

CmdrShep80 wrote...

Yep it did. Well they're doing an early n7 party on the 4th with Q and A

Tries again:


Aktiviteter under Gamex
Fredag 2 november 
Allmänt besök
Kl 17.00 – Biovisning, konferensrum E4
BioWare Gamex After Party
Lördag 3 november
Kl 11.00 – Besök på Sci Fi Bokhandeln
Kl 13.00 – Cosplay Session med Holly Conrad, EA Booth Cosplay Corner
Kl 16.00 – Q&A Panel, ställ frågor till BioWare, Stars on Stage
Söndag 4 november
Kl 13.00 – N7 Precelebration! Öppen Q&A-panel, swag signings, EA Booth
Kl 15.00 – Biovisning, konferensrum E4

Modifié par CmdrShep80, 31 octobre 2012 - 01:13 .