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[masster blaster]

To me Javik is a reminder to everyone about what the Reapers really are. We saw what they were doing with the protheans. There was no war, or harvest. It was the iradication of the Protheans. Javik is the voice of his people. He is suppost to be the Shepard of his cycle.

He once had a crew like Shepard, and a ship too, but he lost it all. In a way Javik is the one that guids Shepard as well. He and Garrus are the only ones that tell Shepard " how far will you go to stop the Reapers?"

Also Javik is right. We can't trust Synthetics. What I mean is yes he was wrong about the Geth, but it's because of the Reapers. I have noticed that the Reapers Indoctrinate the Synthetics of every cycle to fight the Organics. It's true. The Geth Heritcs were hacked in a sense, and became Indoctrinate. The problem with the player is that they are too trustworthy. Look what happened when we let that Asari live. She was Indoctrinated.

Look what happened when we let the ME3 queen, not the ME1 queen live. Betrayed our ***. Trust is major flaw. The Catalyst uses this on the player. Synthesis, and Control will save everyones life. And do you believe him. That deepends if you fall for his BS logic.

As I have said for a month now.

There is know war, or harvest, there is only...the exstinction.

[Raistlin Majare 1992]

CmdrShep80 wrote...

Raistlin Majare 1992 wrote...

*snip*

EDI: "Using Garneau´s data I should be able to accomplish this without difficulty"

Notice they shield it purely by EDI modifiying an existing shield from what we see and "without difficulty" as she says.

Another interesting tidbit from that conversation is that Shepard asks why they werent affected while the Artifact was exposed and EDI mentions that it might be tied to the amount of time spent near the Artifact.

EDI then drops this gem: "With enough exposure the Artifact allows Leviathan an impressive mind control ability."

Crossreference that with Leviathans comment on how the Reapers perfected the mind control and the implications become very unpleasant. But that is nothing new.

huh. I wonder why we didn't look into this at all to install in ships or make a personal box?  You would think this would be important in some way to protecting yourself. Yet no character mentions or even uses it to create a dampening field that could possibly affect how the reapers use the mind control

Well they did shield a part of Sovereign in the lab from Leviathan in a similar fashion and considering the Leviathans dident destroy it and the Reapers dident find Leviathan I think we can assume nothing Indoctrinating escapes the Sovereign part.

But off course there can be multiple reasons for that, perhaps the part was truly inert as in not sending any signals, after all signals would require some sort of power source and unlike the Derelict Reaper which had its core intact this piece is cut of from any power source that we know.

The shielding might also work, but that does not necesaily make it feasible for ground or troop deployment. We know part of the Indoctrination comes from Infrasound and blocking that requires (to my knowledge, I am no sound expert) that you are either in a airtight room or create a sound distortion of some kind. Both I can imagine would be hard to deploy on a person without removing their ability to hear what is going on around them.

And considering we dont know the full breath of how Indocrination (from Reapers) takes place blocking one part might not necesarily offer full protection.

Modifié par Raistlin Majare 1992, 31 octobre 2012 - 01:36 .

[FifthBeatle]

I noticed something funny during my current ME2 play through...

The second time you talk to Joker, he and EDI are arguing over the fact that Joker put grease on EDI's cameras and Joker remarks that she "is just upset because everything looks like a dream sequence." Hmmm... Sorta like the black tendrils in the TIM-Anderson-Shepard showdown at the end, no?

Modifié par FifthBeatle, 31 octobre 2012 - 01:39 .

[Raistlin Majare 1992]

masster blaster wrote...

To me Javik is a reminder to everyone about what the Reapers really are. We saw what they were doing with the protheans. There was no war, or harvest. It was the iradication of the Protheans. Javik is the voice of his people. He is suppost to be the Shepard of his cycle.

He once had a crew like Shepard, and a ship too, but he lost it all. In a way Javik is the one that guids Shepard as well. He and Garrus are the only ones that tell Shepard " how far will you go to stop the Reapers?"

Also Javik is right. We can't trust Synthetics. What I mean is yes he was wrong about the Geth, but it's because of the Reapers. I have noticed that the Reapers Indoctrinate the Synthetics of every cycle to fight the Organics. It's true. The Geth Heritcs were hacked in a sense, and became Indoctrinate. The problem with the player is that they are too trustworthy. Look what happened when we let that Asari live. She was Indoctrinated.

Look what happened when we let the ME3 queen, not the ME1 queen live. Betrayed our ***. Trust is major flaw. The Catalyst uses this on the player. Synthesis, and Control will save everyones life. And do you believe him. That deepends if you fall for his BS logic.

As I have said for a month now.

There is know war, or harvest, there is only...the exstinction.

No, there is a harvest, but it is not to preserve as Catalyst claims.

Each race is measured genetically and either discarded as useless (like Harbinger speaks of the other alien races of during the Proto Reaper battle in ME2) or found good enough, harvested and turned into a new Reaper.

At least that is my view. If Catalyst mission was truly to preserve all life, Synthetic or Organic, then all life would be equally valuable in the eyes of Harbinger and the Reapers. But it is not as he clearly states.

Modifié par Raistlin Majare 1992, 31 octobre 2012 - 01:41 .

[TSA_383]

FifthBeatle wrote...

I noticed something funny during my current ME2 play through...

The second time you talk to Joker, he and EDI are arguing over the fact that Joker put grease on EDI's cameras and Joker remarks that she "is just upset because everything looks like a dream sequence." Hmmm... Sorta like the black tendrils in the TIM-Anderson-Shepard showdown at the end, no?

You're over-thinking 

[Leonia]

And we've known for awhile they would be hitting a few European convention tours, they've mentioned it before. Still has nothing to do with a non-Bioware related trip to Cardiff to see some Doctor Who stuff. It's not exactly unusual for the community manager to update the community on events in their local area. Doesn't necessarily mean anything for IT. Don't get your hopes up regarding N7 Day. If we're lucky, we'll get more Omega news but that's probably it. There have been "N7 Days" in past years that went by without incident, even Shepard's birthday has seen little to no action from Bioware PR in the past.

Modifié par leonia42, 31 octobre 2012 - 01:56 .

[Restrider]

Would be cool if at and after N7 day the ANN twitter account or whatever would kind of allude to Shepard maybe being still alive after all.

[Leonia]

Restrider wrote...

Would be cool if at and after N7 day the ANN twitter account or whatever would kind of allude to Shepard maybe being still alive after all.

That would be cool. The lack of ANN useage since the game came out has been disappointing, especially after a full year of awesome CDN (Cerberus Daily News) stories. Really hoped they would keep that up to give us a taste of the MEU between DLCs.

[Eryri]

TSA_383 wrote...

FifthBeatle wrote...

I noticed something funny during my current ME2 play through...

The second time you talk to Joker, he and EDI are arguing over the fact that Joker put grease on EDI's cameras and Joker remarks that she "is just upset because everything looks like a dream sequence." Hmmm... Sorta like the black tendrils in the TIM-Anderson-Shepard showdown at the end, no?

You're over-thinking 

Another funny bit is during the Collector invasion of the ship and Joker has to unshackle EDI.
I laughed out loud at his little remark on "this is how it starts. Before you know it we'll all be human batteries spending all day calculating Pi". Probably nothing but they sure do love their Matrix references.

Another of my favourite examples of Bioware's sneakiness is that Voice Actor Trailer they released. Tricia Helfer and Seth Green are reading the lines for the scene where EDI brings her new body to the cockpit for the first time. You can skip to the scene here.

Seth reads his lines in a totally different way to the final game. He seems anxious and disapproving of EDI, as opposed to how chuffed Joker is with Edi's sexy new body in the game. It's probably just to hide the spoiler that Edi was going to a squadmate, but it shows how devious Bioware can be.

Modifié par Eryri, 31 octobre 2012 - 02:05 .

[CmdrShep80]

A Q clip. If you watch it and keep ME and the kid in mind you'll see some parallels. And Q's being even more obvious than the kid yet the person on the GPS still makes the choices just cause Q says so

[DoomsdayDevice]

Rifneno wrote...

CmdrShep80 wrote...

Does anyone know why the other VI is called vendetta? For vigil. The overall description fits. But for Vendetta I wonder if it was meant for the Protheans and indoctrinated Protheans instead of Prothean/reaper?

No, we don't know. It's a common theory that there's something wrong with Vendetta. Either the original Prothean he was designed from was indoctrinated, or the Reapers had already tampered with him, or something. The thing that really makes me doubt him is that the temple in Thessia has one of the strongest "ringing sound" (symptom of indoctrination) in the game.

Not to mention the fact that you can hear a freaking Reaper horn when Shepard 'senses' the beacon. It's almost as if his hand is drawn to it by an outside force.

[Restrider]

I've been watching a few videos on YT about the endings and I noticed something:
The sound when the ramps are elevated is a bit off, if you ask me.
Anyone of the sound masters an idea if it really is something that we might have to look into?

[Dwailing]

Well, last night I finished Deus Ex (The original). If any of you here have played it, guess which ending I chose.

[DoomsdayDevice]

So, I've been thinking. If ME4 would continue Shepard's story (it's a big IF, I know), then which plotlines could have follow-ups, and in what kind of way.

One thing that is interesting, is the megastructure the Geth were building (I forgot the name), the one that, once completed, will enable them to all be linked up and multiply their intelligence.

Imagine that structure being completed in ME4. Now the Geth have Reaper code. The decision to let Legion use the Reaper code could well prove to be a fatal one. A megastructure that will house all Geth programs sounds dangerously like a Reaper, and now it will have Reaper code as well.

On the other hand, if the Geth were wiped out in ME3, this plotline couldn't have a follow-up at all, unless they do another ***pull and conjure up a bunch of Geth that survived.

What else do we have? The Krogan. With the genophage cured and Werx as their leader, the Krogan would be an asset. With Wreav however, we might have another Krogan rebellion on our hands. With the genophage sabotaged, we would also have a problem with the Krogan.

It's hard to think of other 'unresolved' plotlines. Any ideas?

[Dwailing]

Thinking about the Geth, now that they're individuals, true individuals, do you think they'll still want the megastructure? Or do you think they'll now want to have separate bodies? It's interesting to ponder.

[DoomsdayDevice]

Dwailing wrote...

Thinking about the Geth, now that they're individuals, true individuals, do you think they'll still want the megastructure? Or do you think they'll now want to have separate bodies? It's interesting to ponder.

Good point, I forgot they actually became individuals. I was thinking they would still want to build that structure.

[DoomsdayDevice]

Also, yesterday, we were talking about the EC ending slides and how they are probably just 'Reaper Matrix' images, as the memories of the harvested species will be preserved as well. So, the worlds we see are probably the memories that have been preserved.

This idea jives really well with an idea I've had because of the Rannoch Reaper.

Those preserved in Reaper form 'live' inside a simulation that is made from their memories. They think their worlds are rebuilt by the Reapers, but it's just an illusion. The world they see is just the memories that have been preserved as well.

On Rannoch, when Shepard talks to the Reaper, it dies when you tell the Reaper that the species from which it was made were harvested thousands of years ago. Those preserved in the Reaper are not aware that they are dead. Once you remind them they are dead, the Reaper dies, as if the spell is broken.

This seems to suggest that all Reapers are victims of indoctrination, and that Harbinger is the one controlling them all. Which would fit with the idea that Harbinger is the Reaper AI.

Modifié par DoomsdayDevice, 31 octobre 2012 - 03:49 .

[Fingertrip]

Dwailing wrote...

Well, last night I finished Deus Ex (The original). If any of you here have played it, guess which ending I chose.

Synthesis, unless you're a greedy selfish bastard.