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Doomsday, neat idea. Besides - remember in cerberus news daily there was a story about a very old derelict ship containing entire civilization inside - and how allince scientist were going to interface with them to figure out a way to save them....
But the thing is - Sovereign was fully aware of what he is, and didn't seem to mind it even a little bit. Perhaps the destroyers are different from capital ship reapers in that way.
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#41802
Posté 31 octobre 2012 - 04:01
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Fingertrip wrote...
Dwailing wrote...
Well, last night I finished Deus Ex (The original). If any of you here have played it, guess which ending I chose.
Synthesis, unless you're a greedy selfish bastard.
Yeah, I merged with Helios. You know why? Because it actually made sense in the story, and I didn't do it without permission. Paul said that people were OK with it, or at least, they were OK when the AI started doing things.
#41803
Posté 31 octobre 2012 - 04:07
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What did you do in Deus Ex: Human Revolution?
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Posté 31 octobre 2012 - 04:13
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Take a guess.demersel wrote...
What did you do in Deus Ex: Human Revolution?
#41805
Posté 31 octobre 2012 - 04:27
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demersel wrote...
What did you do in Deus Ex: Human Revolution?
Sorry to butt in to another's conversation. I actually can't remember what I picked, as I just reloaded from the autosave and played them all one after the other.
It's difficult to make a choice like that at the end of a game meaningful if it's so easy to redo it. It doesn't seem to really affect anything when the credits roll immediately afterwards.
I think I chose to be honest and tell the world what happened first, which put the brakes on augmentation technology.
I quite liked the one that followed Sarif's transhumanist agenda, but that cyborg fetus at the end of the montage was pretty creepy. Choosing augmentation as a consenting adult is something I quite like the idea of, but inflicting it on a child without offering the choice? That just seems instinctively wrong to me. Maybe I'm more of a reactionary luddite than I thought.
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Posté 31 octobre 2012 - 04:32
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Eryri wrote...
demersel wrote...
What did you do in Deus Ex: Human Revolution?
Sorry to butt in to another's conversation. I actually can't remember what I picked, as I just reloaded from the autosave and played them all one after the other.
It's difficult to make a choice like that at the end of a game meaningful if it's so easy to redo it. It doesn't seem to really affect anything when the credits roll immediately afterwards.
I think I chose to be honest and tell the world what happened first, which put the brakes on augmentation technology.
I quite liked the one that followed Sarif's transhumanist agenda, but that cyborg fetus at the end of the montage was pretty creepy. Choosing augmentation as a consenting adult is something I quite like the idea of, but inflicting it on a child without offering the choice? That just seems instinctively wrong to me. Maybe I'm more of a reactionary luddite than I thought.
Despite beeing pro augementation throughout the game I decided to tell the truth as well. I dident plant evidence against that anti aug guy when Sarif asks you to and I wasent going to lie either. If technology has to advance, it should be with everyone knowing exactly what might happen. It should not happen from lying about and hiding the problems the technology might cause, it is just too big for one man or one cooperation to push forward alone.
Sounds familiar?
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Posté 31 octobre 2012 - 04:33
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demersel wrote...
Doomsday, neat idea. Besides - remember in cerberus news daily there was a story about a very old derelict ship containing entire civilization inside - and how allince scientist were going to interface with them to figure out a way to save them....
But the thing is - Sovereign was fully aware of what he is, and didn't seem to mind it even a little bit. Perhaps the destroyers are different from capital ship reapers in that way.
Could be. Or perhaps they're just so far gone, they have no idea.
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Posté 31 octobre 2012 - 04:38
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Raistlin Majare 1992 wrote...
If technology has to advance, it should be with everyone knowing exactly what might happen. It should not happen from lying about and hiding the problems the technology might cause, it is just too big for one man or one cooperation to push forward alone.
Sounds familiar?
Indeed it does, and I agree.
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#41809
Posté 31 octobre 2012 - 04:44
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Your points are somewhat moot.DoomsdayDevice wrote...
So, I've been thinking. If ME4 would continue Shepard's story (it's a big IF, I know), then which plotlines could have follow-ups, and in what kind of way.
One thing that is interesting, is the megastructure the Geth were building (I forgot the name), the one that, once completed, will enable them to all be linked up and multiply their intelligence.
Imagine that structure being completed in ME4. Now the Geth have Reaper code. The decision to let Legion use the Reaper code could well prove to be a fatal one. A megastructure that will house all Geth programs sounds dangerously like a Reaper, and now it will have Reaper code as well.
On the other hand, if the Geth were wiped out in ME3, this plotline couldn't have a follow-up at all, unless they do another ***pull and conjure up a bunch of Geth that survived.
What else do we have? The Krogan. With the genophage cured and Werx as their leader, the Krogan would be an asset. With Wreav however, we might have another Krogan rebellion on our hands. With the genophage sabotaged, we would also have a problem with the Krogan.
It's hard to think of other 'unresolved' plotlines. Any ideas?
If you have a ME4 that continues Shepard's story, we still have not beaten the Reapers, if you assume IT is true. The content of the next installment would then be really a Reaper war and not just the invasion. Spotless and Blur have interesting concepts of how to continue the plot (weakened Reapers retreating and leaving to regroup; destroying the central AI node in darkspace).
Other plots that are unresolved and need more emphasis are:
The Salarian Union and the role of the Dalatrass.
The Asari Republics and their role in withdrawing important technology (this would fit more in a post-war scenario, since this could trigger animosities).
The role of Cerberus, though I hope that Omega may solve that.
The Leviathan as puppet masters of (some) organic races, maybe.
The Rachni.
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Posté 31 octobre 2012 - 04:46
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09/01/2010 - Best-Selling E-Book Discusses the Downside of First Contact
“The new e-book "First Contact: Who Needs It?" by author Kurt Riven has zoomed to the top of this week's best-seller list. In the book, the counterculture icon argues that contact between extraterrestrial species is inherently a bad idea. Riven writes, "Aside from the inevitable wars, jingoism, and disease that always follow first contact, there's a more insidious problem: the homogenization of culture, of thought, of ideas themselves. As soon as I see how your ship works, I don't need to figure it out myself. I'll copy yours and whatever hope we had for something new evaporates. Maybe mine's a different shape, but so what? The same problem exists on a galactic scale, where all major species are busy duplicating each other's ideas. It would have been better if they never met." Ironically, in light of the book's success, many copycat books are already popping up across the extranet.”
“The new e-book "First Contact: Who Needs It?" by author Kurt Riven has zoomed to the top of this week's best-seller list. In the book, the counterculture icon argues that contact between extraterrestrial species is inherently a bad idea. Riven writes, "Aside from the inevitable wars, jingoism, and disease that always follow first contact, there's a more insidious problem: the homogenization of culture, of thought, of ideas themselves. As soon as I see how your ship works, I don't need to figure it out myself. I'll copy yours and whatever hope we had for something new evaporates. Maybe mine's a different shape, but so what? The same problem exists on a galactic scale, where all major species are busy duplicating each other's ideas. It would have been better if they never met." Ironically, in light of the book's success, many copycat books are already popping up across the extranet.”
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Posté 31 octobre 2012 - 05:06
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Wait, that's from Cerberus News, am I right?
Or is that a serious thing?
Or is that a serious thing?
#41813
Posté 31 octobre 2012 - 05:11
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Hey! There's a new Challenge in MP. Halloween-flavored.
http://blog.bioware....ween-challenge/
EDIT:
Blur
http://blog.bioware....ween-challenge/
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Posté 31 octobre 2012 - 05:22
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08/11/2010 - Alien AI-Controlled Ship Makes Contact in Salarian Space
“Alarms rang throughout the salarian system of Antilin yesterday when an alien ship bearing a strong AI signature triggered fears of a geth attack. Renko Turwin, Director of Near-Orbital Security, explained: "When evidence of powerful AI heuristics was detected onboard, our security forces thought it was the vanguard of a geth invasion. However, we consulted quarian scientific advisors who assured us that the signals failed to match any known geth signature." According to Turwin, the biggest surprise came next: "The ship's intelligence then communicated with us. It asked us to calculate the value of Pi to the first quadrillion digits. Some 20 questions followed after that, all of them beyond our realm of expertise. We're currently awaiting advice from outside consultants before proceeding. As yet, the ship matches no known alien species."”
08/15/2010 - Breakthrough in Communication with Antilin "Ghost Ship"
“A breakthrough today in the case of the mysterious "ghost ship" in the Antilin System: Famed exo-biologist Jordan Detweiler from MIT's Extraterrestrial Studies Group traveled to the ship, now held in quarantine. Detweiler engaged the ship's AI system, which has been piloting the craft for an undetermined number of years and appears to be the sole sentient lifeform onboard. Given previous failed communication attempts, Detweiler explained how he succeeded: "In rudimentary terms, it was an I.Q. test. The ship's AI was determining that we weren't some band of dullard space pirates, that we understood things like quantum string theory, emergent systems, and a host of other advanced concepts. I was able to satisfy its demands and gain access to the interior. I need to do more analysis, but I think this is the exo-archaeological find of the century. I will say that the ship appears to be at least 8,000 years old."”
08/19/2010 - MIT Exo-Biologist Claims Astonishing Antilin "Ghost Ship" Discovery
“The scientific community is abuzz today after the latest report from MIT exo-biologist Jordan Detweiler was filed last night from the Antilin System, where he's currently investigating a mysterious "ghost ship." Claiming a breakthrough, Detweiler writes, "What I've discovered is nothing short of astonishing: This so-called derelict ship isn't derelict at all. It appears that an alien race has downloaded its consciousness to a massive array of quantum computers onboard the vessel. It's my belief these aliens now reside entirely in a virtual world and have been there for at least 8,000 years." Detweiler estimates the population of the virtual world numbers close to one billion individuals. He explains: "The ship's AI is something of a caretaker to these people, or even a god depending on how you look at it. More importantly, the AI is now requesting our help. It says a power failure is imminent and threatens the entire virtual civilization."”
08/21/2010 - Opinions Mixed After Discovery of "Ghost Ship" Virtual Civilization
“Opinions were plentiful this week after MIT's Jordan Detweiler stunned the scientific world when he revealed the existence of a virtual alien civilization residing in a derelict "ghost ship". Niran Patalung, a Buddhist scholar at the Center for Religious Studies in Bangkok, said, "I'm struck by the parallels to ancient human beliefs in reincarnation. Clearly, life does not end for these aliens when they 'die.' Their souls, if you will, simply re-inhabit other virtual personalities and continue living." Thomas Copeland, spokesman for an Earth-based atheist group, disagreed: "That's true until you pull the plug. Then what? All these 'souls' just wink out, that's what. Those who would latch onto this incident as proof of some higher level of existence are simply projecting their own wishful thinking onto digital noise." Mr. Patalung replied: "One man's noise is another man's music. Perhaps in his next life, Mr. Copeland will be less tone-deaf."”
08/24/2010 - Galaxy Remains Riveted to Ongoing "Ghost Ship" Saga
“The galaxy remains riveted to the ongoing saga of the AI-driven "ghost ship," now in danger of perishing because of dwindling energy reserves. Evolutionary biologists have jumped into the fray, with one claiming the extinction of the virtual alien race is the natural order of things. "Face it," turian scientist Elgus Paramon argued, "these aliens were clever, but they weren't clever enough to build a better battery. Their lack of foresight is a failure to adapt to changing conditions. Their species represents an evolutionary dead-end, and their civilization should be allowed to perish." Responding, the chief exo-biologist investigating the ship, Jordan Detweiler, said "Mr. Paramon would have us commit genocide by turning a blind eye to the situation. We can save this civilization. The power requirements to preserve their virtual world are manageable." The matter is now being referred to the Citadel Council for further consideration.”
08/25/2010 - No Decision Yet Reached in "Ghost Ship" Case
“With time running out, no decision has yet been reached in the case of the alien "ghost ship" found drifting in salarian space. Exo-biologist Jordan Detweiler estimates the energy reserves currently powering the virtual alien world are down to 4% and will fail soon. Meanwhile, opportunistic explorers boarded the ship last night and managed to hack into the virtual civilization. Before they were caught, the hackers spent six hours interfaced with the ship's computers. In that relatively short period of time, it appears that some 180 years passed within the virtual world. Both hackers are currently in deep comas and doctors are unsure as to their recovery. "The interface was too much for their systems to absorb. Trying to re-connect their minds to their bodies after being "away" for so long mentally was too large a shock. Physically they're fine, but I'd wager scrambled eggs have more consciousness."”
08/27/2010 - Alien "Ghost Ship" Saga Ends Under Veil of Secrecy
“The saga of the alien "ghost ship" has come to a surprising end. Earlier today, reports surfaced that the Citadel Council was prepared to rule against saving the ship, fearing its AI system was sophisticated enough to pose a "security threat of unknown dimensions." In response, chief scientist Jordan Detweiler inserted himself into the virtual alien world to warn its citizens of their civilization's imminent end. He returned one minute later -- apparently equal to half a year within the accelerated timeline of the alien world -- bringing a treaty offer from its inhabitants. At that point, details turn sketchy. One inside source claims the virtual aliens offered scientific advancements "far beyond anything we have" in return for assistance. A veil of secrecy was immediately erected, with Citadel intelligence agencies classifying the matter as top-secret. Rumors now have Jordan Detweiler embarking on a Council-sanctioned mission into the virtual world to make diplomatic contact.”
09/15/2010 - "Ghost Ship" Researcher Jordan Detweiler Sighted on the Citadel
“The famed "virtual ghost ship" is back in the news today after a reported sighting of MIT exobiologist Jordan Detweiler. This follows weeks of rumors that Detweiler had embarked on a diplomatic mission into a virtual alien world that he discovered on the ship's supercomputer. It is now understood that Detweiler's body remained in a controlled coma while his consciousness explored the artificial civilization. However, multiple eyewitnesses on the Citadel claim to have seen Detweiler visiting the Presidium recently. A Council spokesperson would only say, "We do not comment on internal Citadel matters." This fueled speculation that Detweiler was indeed acting on behalf of the Council in his logins to the virtual world.”
09/19/2010 - Kyra Detweiler Claims Her Father Is Being Deliberately Endangered
“An unusual twist today in the case of MIT exobiologist Jordan Detweiler: acting on recent rumors that he was seen visiting the Citadel, Detweiler's daughter, Kyra, traveled to the galactic hub and demanded a meeting with him. Although she signed a confidentiality agreement, Ms. Detweiler claims she was repeatedly denied access. "They only let me see my dad after I raised hell about it," she said. "I can be prosecuted for speaking to the media, but I don't care. He's in danger. There's something wrong with him and the Council knows it." Council representatives continue to refuse comment on the matter.”
09/20/2010 - Kyra Detweiler Releases Statement to GBC News
“Kyra Detweiler, daughter of famed MIT exobiologist Jordan Detweiler, has released a statement to GBC News alleging the Citadel Council is covering up her father's deteriorating medical condition. "He didn't even know who I was -- his own daughter! I got five minutes to speak with him before security whisked him away. Is he sick? Is he brain-damaged?" Council representatives declined to comment on the situation, fuelling speculation that Dr. Detweiler was profoundly changed by his visit to the virtual world inside a derelict spacecraft. "Silence is a terrible answer," wrote columnist Urla Dhen. "The public doesn't know much, but it knows that anything relating to AI or synthetic life is something to fear. Refusing to comment leads us all to assume the worst."”
09/21/2010 - Council Spokesman Responds to Cover-Up Allegations
“A furor has erupted over the recent GBC News conversation with Kyra Detweiler, daughter of noted MIT exobiologist Jordan Detweiler. Ms. Detweiler alleged the Citadel Council is covering up her father's deteriorating medical condition, triggering a media backlash from all quarters of the galaxy. In response, the Council held a hastily arranged press conference to manage damage control, at which spokesman Anton Galer said: "Acting on behalf of the Council, Jordan Detweiler did indeed visit the virtual alien world he discovered. Yes, Dr. Detweiler was seen on the Presidium recently, but this was his body, not his mind. He has, for lack of a better term, 'swapped' with an alien consciousness in the virtual world. This procedure was the most stable way for their ambassador to gain access to our physical universe for diplomatic discussions." A stunned media corps quickly erupted with questions, but the Council spokesman declined further comment.”
09/23/2010 - Scientific World Still Absorbing Jordan Detweiler "Mind Swap" Revelation
“The scientific world is still absorbing the news that an ambassador from a virtual alien civilization is currently visiting the Citadel. An inside source reveals that during his travels within the virtual civilization, MIT exobiologist Jordan Detweiler agreed to allow the virtual consciousness of an Ambassador Sygan to use his body as a conduit to interact with our physical universe. It is unclear to what extent Dr. Detweiler maintains control of his body. "It's complicated," said the source. "We aren't just talking about diplomatic ties between two planets or species, but between two universes: one physical, the other virtual." The source has refused to divulge details on the nature of the virtual alien world.”
09/24/2010 - Virtual Alien Ambassador Petitions Citadel Council for Asylum
“Breaking news tonight from the Citadel, where Ambassador Sygan, the virtual alien inhabiting Dr. Jordan Detweiler's body, called an unscheduled press conference to issue the following statement: "Long ago, our people lived in your universe of physical matter. When our sun went supernova, we sought refuge in a virtual world free of needless pain and suffering, climate disasters, disease, and many other ills faced by creatures of solid flesh. Some now feel that remaining in this world after the danger had passed was a mistake. We realize that distress can sometimes provide a catalyst for evolution. We miss the turmoil of physical existence. As such, I formally petition the Citadel Council for asylum. I no longer wish to return to my former world."”
09/25/2010 - Questions Raised About Dr. Detweiler and Amb. Sygan's Fates
“After yesterday's stunning request for asylum, Ambassador Sygan has been placed in a secure wing of the Presidium while the Citadel Council deliberates its course of action. Questions have arisen about the legal, ethical, and physical implications of allowing the emissary to remain in Dr. Jordan Detweiler's body while the exobiologist's mind remains in the virtual alien world. When asked what the Council should do if the aliens were to hold Detweiler hostage, Detweiler's daughter, Kyra, said, "Pull the plug. Remind them who's really in control." The Council has already ruled out this option, citing the moral implications of of wiping out the last remnants of an entire civilization.”
09/26/2010 - Volunteers Step Forward to Swap Places with Virtual Aliens
“Deadlocked Council deliberations over the fate of Ambassador Sygan ended today with a surprising twist: the Council will grant asylum to the virtual alien emissary in the body of a volunteer, allowing famed MIT exobiologist Dr. Jordan Detweiler to return to his own body. Ambassador Sygan will transfer her consciousness into the volunteer's body, while the volunteer's consciousness is downloaded into a computer. Upon hearing this decision, some 400 individuals from various races have volunteered to "swap places" with aliens inside the virtual world who wish to re-join the physical universe. One asari volunteer regarded this as "an amazing opportunity to explore a new realm of existence," while a salarian volunteer said, "I'm doing it because I'm tired of our universe. It's a mess."”
“Alarms rang throughout the salarian system of Antilin yesterday when an alien ship bearing a strong AI signature triggered fears of a geth attack. Renko Turwin, Director of Near-Orbital Security, explained: "When evidence of powerful AI heuristics was detected onboard, our security forces thought it was the vanguard of a geth invasion. However, we consulted quarian scientific advisors who assured us that the signals failed to match any known geth signature." According to Turwin, the biggest surprise came next: "The ship's intelligence then communicated with us. It asked us to calculate the value of Pi to the first quadrillion digits. Some 20 questions followed after that, all of them beyond our realm of expertise. We're currently awaiting advice from outside consultants before proceeding. As yet, the ship matches no known alien species."”
08/15/2010 - Breakthrough in Communication with Antilin "Ghost Ship"
“A breakthrough today in the case of the mysterious "ghost ship" in the Antilin System: Famed exo-biologist Jordan Detweiler from MIT's Extraterrestrial Studies Group traveled to the ship, now held in quarantine. Detweiler engaged the ship's AI system, which has been piloting the craft for an undetermined number of years and appears to be the sole sentient lifeform onboard. Given previous failed communication attempts, Detweiler explained how he succeeded: "In rudimentary terms, it was an I.Q. test. The ship's AI was determining that we weren't some band of dullard space pirates, that we understood things like quantum string theory, emergent systems, and a host of other advanced concepts. I was able to satisfy its demands and gain access to the interior. I need to do more analysis, but I think this is the exo-archaeological find of the century. I will say that the ship appears to be at least 8,000 years old."”
08/19/2010 - MIT Exo-Biologist Claims Astonishing Antilin "Ghost Ship" Discovery
“The scientific community is abuzz today after the latest report from MIT exo-biologist Jordan Detweiler was filed last night from the Antilin System, where he's currently investigating a mysterious "ghost ship." Claiming a breakthrough, Detweiler writes, "What I've discovered is nothing short of astonishing: This so-called derelict ship isn't derelict at all. It appears that an alien race has downloaded its consciousness to a massive array of quantum computers onboard the vessel. It's my belief these aliens now reside entirely in a virtual world and have been there for at least 8,000 years." Detweiler estimates the population of the virtual world numbers close to one billion individuals. He explains: "The ship's AI is something of a caretaker to these people, or even a god depending on how you look at it. More importantly, the AI is now requesting our help. It says a power failure is imminent and threatens the entire virtual civilization."”
08/21/2010 - Opinions Mixed After Discovery of "Ghost Ship" Virtual Civilization
“Opinions were plentiful this week after MIT's Jordan Detweiler stunned the scientific world when he revealed the existence of a virtual alien civilization residing in a derelict "ghost ship". Niran Patalung, a Buddhist scholar at the Center for Religious Studies in Bangkok, said, "I'm struck by the parallels to ancient human beliefs in reincarnation. Clearly, life does not end for these aliens when they 'die.' Their souls, if you will, simply re-inhabit other virtual personalities and continue living." Thomas Copeland, spokesman for an Earth-based atheist group, disagreed: "That's true until you pull the plug. Then what? All these 'souls' just wink out, that's what. Those who would latch onto this incident as proof of some higher level of existence are simply projecting their own wishful thinking onto digital noise." Mr. Patalung replied: "One man's noise is another man's music. Perhaps in his next life, Mr. Copeland will be less tone-deaf."”
08/24/2010 - Galaxy Remains Riveted to Ongoing "Ghost Ship" Saga
“The galaxy remains riveted to the ongoing saga of the AI-driven "ghost ship," now in danger of perishing because of dwindling energy reserves. Evolutionary biologists have jumped into the fray, with one claiming the extinction of the virtual alien race is the natural order of things. "Face it," turian scientist Elgus Paramon argued, "these aliens were clever, but they weren't clever enough to build a better battery. Their lack of foresight is a failure to adapt to changing conditions. Their species represents an evolutionary dead-end, and their civilization should be allowed to perish." Responding, the chief exo-biologist investigating the ship, Jordan Detweiler, said "Mr. Paramon would have us commit genocide by turning a blind eye to the situation. We can save this civilization. The power requirements to preserve their virtual world are manageable." The matter is now being referred to the Citadel Council for further consideration.”
08/25/2010 - No Decision Yet Reached in "Ghost Ship" Case
“With time running out, no decision has yet been reached in the case of the alien "ghost ship" found drifting in salarian space. Exo-biologist Jordan Detweiler estimates the energy reserves currently powering the virtual alien world are down to 4% and will fail soon. Meanwhile, opportunistic explorers boarded the ship last night and managed to hack into the virtual civilization. Before they were caught, the hackers spent six hours interfaced with the ship's computers. In that relatively short period of time, it appears that some 180 years passed within the virtual world. Both hackers are currently in deep comas and doctors are unsure as to their recovery. "The interface was too much for their systems to absorb. Trying to re-connect their minds to their bodies after being "away" for so long mentally was too large a shock. Physically they're fine, but I'd wager scrambled eggs have more consciousness."”
08/27/2010 - Alien "Ghost Ship" Saga Ends Under Veil of Secrecy
“The saga of the alien "ghost ship" has come to a surprising end. Earlier today, reports surfaced that the Citadel Council was prepared to rule against saving the ship, fearing its AI system was sophisticated enough to pose a "security threat of unknown dimensions." In response, chief scientist Jordan Detweiler inserted himself into the virtual alien world to warn its citizens of their civilization's imminent end. He returned one minute later -- apparently equal to half a year within the accelerated timeline of the alien world -- bringing a treaty offer from its inhabitants. At that point, details turn sketchy. One inside source claims the virtual aliens offered scientific advancements "far beyond anything we have" in return for assistance. A veil of secrecy was immediately erected, with Citadel intelligence agencies classifying the matter as top-secret. Rumors now have Jordan Detweiler embarking on a Council-sanctioned mission into the virtual world to make diplomatic contact.”
09/15/2010 - "Ghost Ship" Researcher Jordan Detweiler Sighted on the Citadel
“The famed "virtual ghost ship" is back in the news today after a reported sighting of MIT exobiologist Jordan Detweiler. This follows weeks of rumors that Detweiler had embarked on a diplomatic mission into a virtual alien world that he discovered on the ship's supercomputer. It is now understood that Detweiler's body remained in a controlled coma while his consciousness explored the artificial civilization. However, multiple eyewitnesses on the Citadel claim to have seen Detweiler visiting the Presidium recently. A Council spokesperson would only say, "We do not comment on internal Citadel matters." This fueled speculation that Detweiler was indeed acting on behalf of the Council in his logins to the virtual world.”
09/19/2010 - Kyra Detweiler Claims Her Father Is Being Deliberately Endangered
“An unusual twist today in the case of MIT exobiologist Jordan Detweiler: acting on recent rumors that he was seen visiting the Citadel, Detweiler's daughter, Kyra, traveled to the galactic hub and demanded a meeting with him. Although she signed a confidentiality agreement, Ms. Detweiler claims she was repeatedly denied access. "They only let me see my dad after I raised hell about it," she said. "I can be prosecuted for speaking to the media, but I don't care. He's in danger. There's something wrong with him and the Council knows it." Council representatives continue to refuse comment on the matter.”
09/20/2010 - Kyra Detweiler Releases Statement to GBC News
“Kyra Detweiler, daughter of famed MIT exobiologist Jordan Detweiler, has released a statement to GBC News alleging the Citadel Council is covering up her father's deteriorating medical condition. "He didn't even know who I was -- his own daughter! I got five minutes to speak with him before security whisked him away. Is he sick? Is he brain-damaged?" Council representatives declined to comment on the situation, fuelling speculation that Dr. Detweiler was profoundly changed by his visit to the virtual world inside a derelict spacecraft. "Silence is a terrible answer," wrote columnist Urla Dhen. "The public doesn't know much, but it knows that anything relating to AI or synthetic life is something to fear. Refusing to comment leads us all to assume the worst."”
09/21/2010 - Council Spokesman Responds to Cover-Up Allegations
“A furor has erupted over the recent GBC News conversation with Kyra Detweiler, daughter of noted MIT exobiologist Jordan Detweiler. Ms. Detweiler alleged the Citadel Council is covering up her father's deteriorating medical condition, triggering a media backlash from all quarters of the galaxy. In response, the Council held a hastily arranged press conference to manage damage control, at which spokesman Anton Galer said: "Acting on behalf of the Council, Jordan Detweiler did indeed visit the virtual alien world he discovered. Yes, Dr. Detweiler was seen on the Presidium recently, but this was his body, not his mind. He has, for lack of a better term, 'swapped' with an alien consciousness in the virtual world. This procedure was the most stable way for their ambassador to gain access to our physical universe for diplomatic discussions." A stunned media corps quickly erupted with questions, but the Council spokesman declined further comment.”
09/23/2010 - Scientific World Still Absorbing Jordan Detweiler "Mind Swap" Revelation
“The scientific world is still absorbing the news that an ambassador from a virtual alien civilization is currently visiting the Citadel. An inside source reveals that during his travels within the virtual civilization, MIT exobiologist Jordan Detweiler agreed to allow the virtual consciousness of an Ambassador Sygan to use his body as a conduit to interact with our physical universe. It is unclear to what extent Dr. Detweiler maintains control of his body. "It's complicated," said the source. "We aren't just talking about diplomatic ties between two planets or species, but between two universes: one physical, the other virtual." The source has refused to divulge details on the nature of the virtual alien world.”
09/24/2010 - Virtual Alien Ambassador Petitions Citadel Council for Asylum
“Breaking news tonight from the Citadel, where Ambassador Sygan, the virtual alien inhabiting Dr. Jordan Detweiler's body, called an unscheduled press conference to issue the following statement: "Long ago, our people lived in your universe of physical matter. When our sun went supernova, we sought refuge in a virtual world free of needless pain and suffering, climate disasters, disease, and many other ills faced by creatures of solid flesh. Some now feel that remaining in this world after the danger had passed was a mistake. We realize that distress can sometimes provide a catalyst for evolution. We miss the turmoil of physical existence. As such, I formally petition the Citadel Council for asylum. I no longer wish to return to my former world."”
09/25/2010 - Questions Raised About Dr. Detweiler and Amb. Sygan's Fates
“After yesterday's stunning request for asylum, Ambassador Sygan has been placed in a secure wing of the Presidium while the Citadel Council deliberates its course of action. Questions have arisen about the legal, ethical, and physical implications of allowing the emissary to remain in Dr. Jordan Detweiler's body while the exobiologist's mind remains in the virtual alien world. When asked what the Council should do if the aliens were to hold Detweiler hostage, Detweiler's daughter, Kyra, said, "Pull the plug. Remind them who's really in control." The Council has already ruled out this option, citing the moral implications of of wiping out the last remnants of an entire civilization.”
09/26/2010 - Volunteers Step Forward to Swap Places with Virtual Aliens
“Deadlocked Council deliberations over the fate of Ambassador Sygan ended today with a surprising twist: the Council will grant asylum to the virtual alien emissary in the body of a volunteer, allowing famed MIT exobiologist Dr. Jordan Detweiler to return to his own body. Ambassador Sygan will transfer her consciousness into the volunteer's body, while the volunteer's consciousness is downloaded into a computer. Upon hearing this decision, some 400 individuals from various races have volunteered to "swap places" with aliens inside the virtual world who wish to re-join the physical universe. One asari volunteer regarded this as "an amazing opportunity to explore a new realm of existence," while a salarian volunteer said, "I'm doing it because I'm tired of our universe. It's a mess."”
#41815
Posté 31 octobre 2012 - 05:24
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Restrider wrote...
Wait, that's from Cerberus News, am I right?
Or is that a serious thing?
That's from cerberus news, yes. There are TONS of stuff relevant to Mass Effect 3 And DLCs
#41816
Posté 31 octobre 2012 - 05:30
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#41818
Posté 31 octobre 2012 - 05:41
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THat's not really a find. Just a reminder. THere is also a huge story about some artifacts that salarians confistated, and of course the war at Govurg. Multiple hints at C-sec customs breaches that lead up to cerberus coup, very extensive story about batarians, kenson and mass relays, possible hints at more thorian activity (or leviathan one) - with an organic plant based drug called the creaper, and many many more.
#41819
Posté 31 octobre 2012 - 05:43
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so for all we know - the citdel council have themselves a reaper of their own.
#41820
Posté 31 octobre 2012 - 05:49
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Man I only wanted to fight husk 
. Also AC is awsome. Combat is weird, but it's all good. Anyways what do you think about Vendetta being an Indcotrinated prothean VI. I mean we know that if Reapers/Cerberus can hack a AI, or VI, then they can Control what it does. Hence the Geth "Math error."
Also remember that VI that went crazy because of a virus in ME2. Doesn't Shepard Destroy all Synthetics that are infected. Hence why the Catalyst says
" All Synthetic life will be targeted", because Shepard had to blow up the Synthetics that were infected because they couldn't be saved. Well mechs, but you see what I am saying right?
. Also AC is awsome. Combat is weird, but it's all good. Anyways what do you think about Vendetta being an Indcotrinated prothean VI. I mean we know that if Reapers/Cerberus can hack a AI, or VI, then they can Control what it does. Hence the Geth "Math error."Also remember that VI that went crazy because of a virus in ME2. Doesn't Shepard Destroy all Synthetics that are infected. Hence why the Catalyst says
" All Synthetic life will be targeted", because Shepard had to blow up the Synthetics that were infected because they couldn't be saved. Well mechs, but you see what I am saying right?
Modifié par masster blaster, 31 octobre 2012 - 05:54 .
#41821
Posté 31 octobre 2012 - 06:21
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Okay I had a mad idea. Okay what if Harbinger is playing with Shepard. I mean everything. At the Beginning Harbinger is leading the attack on Earth. Yet why didn't the Reapers go to the Citadel first. It's because if they did everyone would already know what happened and be ready, yet people did not expect for their home plants to get attacked first.
Also what's funny is that Harbinger speaks about Shepard, and why? harbinger is worried about one man, or woman would stop his plans, and Destroy his creations.
Furthermore why does Harbinger not speak to Shepard? He did it everytime when he took over a collector, and even arrival. Yet why? Also if you notice when Harbinger comes downfrom outerspace, why is he the only one that arrives?
What if you have low ems? Do you have more than Harbinger on the field? No I think not, and it's funny that in low ems your squad is in front of you with no burnt marks on them.
How did they get infront of Shepard if they died way behind Shepard? Makes no sense right, unless Shepard is dreaming/seeing things. I say seeing things, then dream.
Also what's funny is that Harbinger speaks about Shepard, and why? harbinger is worried about one man, or woman would stop his plans, and Destroy his creations.
Furthermore why does Harbinger not speak to Shepard? He did it everytime when he took over a collector, and even arrival. Yet why? Also if you notice when Harbinger comes downfrom outerspace, why is he the only one that arrives?
What if you have low ems? Do you have more than Harbinger on the field? No I think not, and it's funny that in low ems your squad is in front of you with no burnt marks on them.
How did they get infront of Shepard if they died way behind Shepard? Makes no sense right, unless Shepard is dreaming/seeing things. I say seeing things, then dream.
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Posté 31 octobre 2012 - 06:50
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That's sorta something I've started forming in my own head. Harbinger is kinda like the real puppet master behind the curtain.
It's one of the ways I can see how the game can really end if IT is revealed: Take out Harbinger, take out the real AI, take out rudderless Reapers. There's your conventional victory.
How do you take him out? Yeah, no clue. That'd be a fun and adventurous SP DLC though.
It's one of the ways I can see how the game can really end if IT is revealed: Take out Harbinger, take out the real AI, take out rudderless Reapers. There's your conventional victory.
How do you take him out? Yeah, no clue. That'd be a fun and adventurous SP DLC though.
#41823
Posté 31 octobre 2012 - 06:52
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Hey guys, how is everyone? 
Hope everything is guud. What's new?
Hope everything is guud. What's new?
#41824
Posté 31 octobre 2012 - 06:55
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Restrider wrote...
If you have a ME4 that continues Shepard's story, we still have not beaten the Reapers, if you assume IT is true. The content of the next installment would then be really a Reaper war and not just the invasion. Spotless and Blur have interesting concepts of how to continue the plot (weakened Reapers retreating and leaving to regroup; destroying the central AI node in darkspace).
i could def. get behind this!
#41825
Posté 31 octobre 2012 - 07:03
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demersel wrote...
so for all we know - the citdel council have themselves a reaper of their own.
There are definitely similarities, but the virtual world seems different. The Reapers are a billions of programs, where that ship seems more like a a collective of virtual individuals. The age of the ship is also only 8000 years.
Edit: Sup Lex!
Modifié par spotlessvoid, 31 octobre 2012 - 07:04 .
