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Was the Ending a Hallucination? - Indoctrination Theory Mark III!


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Dwailing wrote...

smokingotter1 wrote...

paxxton wrote...

401 Kill wrote...

Reaper- "Shepard."
Shepard- "You know my name?"
Reaper- "Harbinger speaks of you. You resist, but you will fail."

And? What about it?


If the starchild controls all the reapers than why are they gossiping about Shepard? Shouldn't they all have the same hivemind? Sounds like the reapers really are seperated entities, "each a nation."




You know, you might be right.  Why would Harbinger have to speak of Shepard if they were all a hive mind?


More importantly, why have the Reaper destroyer refer to Harby like he's the leader of the Reapers if it is in fact godcild who leads them?

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smokingotter1 wrote...

paxxton wrote...

401 Kill wrote...

Reaper- "Shepard."
Shepard- "You know my name?"
Reaper- "Harbinger speaks of you. You resist, but you will fail."

And? What about it?


If the starchild controls all the reapers than why are they gossiping about Shepard? Shouldn't they all have the same hivemind? Sounds like the reapers really are seperated entities, "each a nation."


Excellent point.

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Vibez wrote...

Is this thread finally AC3-ending-spoiler free? I've been avoiding reading anything for three days, it's really frustrating. :(


not quite. People are just now getting into it all

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Look it's simple at the end. The child is saintin. Saintin took the form of a snake and persuaded Adam, and eve to eat the apple. Shepard is being persuaded to pick Synthesis, and Control

If you notice on Destroy ( not refuse) doesn't let everyone live, how ever in Control, and Synthesis everyone lives. Destroy is the number one thing on our minds until the brat gave us Control, and Synthesis.

I also find it funny that the brat knows about Destroy, Control, and Synthesis and what they do. We also see visions of the future, and it all comes true. Just like arrival. Shepard is touching the Reaper artifact the Conduit, and is seeing the future, but Harbinger is twisting his/her visions.

We know that Harbinger has a foot old of Shepard's mind in arrival because if we fail we see the future, and what looks like the Conduit/beam run, and everyone is happy/being controld by Harbinger.

Also Leviathan to me confirms Harbinger is the brat.

Leviathan: Your mind belongs to me." Except this." Which Shepard does.

Modifié par masster blaster, 01 novembre 2012 - 04:28 .


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I'm so glad that they gave everyone 100+ hours to work with. In other words 4 days. I'm hoping to get into it all sat or sun

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@Byne

Yeah, AC's endings did get kind of crazy after II. But a good kind of crazy. :D

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masster blaster wrote...

Look it's simple at the end. The child is satin.


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Of course!

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Guys on N7 day do you think we will see an Omega trailer? Also aren't they done, but are waiting for Halo, and AC3 to pass for a bit?

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byne wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

Look it's simple at the end. The child is satin.


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Of course!


:lol::lol::lol:

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masster blaster wrote...

Look it's simple at the end. The child is saintin. Saintin took the form of a snake and persuaded Adam, and eve to eat the apple. Shepard is being persuaded to pick Synthesis, and Control

If you notice on Destroy ( not refuse) doesn't let everyone live, how ever in Control, and Synthesis everyone lives. Destroy is the number one thing on our minds until the brat gave us Control, and Synthesis.

I also find it funny that the brat knows about Destroy, Control, and Synthesis and what they do. We also see visions of the future, and it all comes true. Just like arrival. Shepard is touching the Reaper artifact the Conduit, and is seeing the future, but Harbinger is twisting his/her visions.

We know that Harbinger has a foot old of Shepard's mind in arrival because if we fail we see the future, and what looks like the Conduit/beam run, and everyone is happy/being controld by Harbinger.

Also Leviathan to me confirms Harbinger is the brat.

Leviathan: Your mind belongs to me." Except this." Which Shepard does.


Luke 4...

And Jesus being full of the Holy Ghost returned from Jordan, and was led by the Spirit into the wilderness

Being forty days tempted of the devil. And in those days he did eat nothing: and when they were ended, he afterward hungered.

And the devil said unto him, If thou be the Son of God, command this stone that it be made bread.

And Jesus answered him, saying, It is written, That man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word of God.

And the devil, taking him up into an high mountain, showed unto him all the kingdoms of the world in a moment of time.

And the devil said unto him, "All this power will I give thee, and the glory of them: for that is delivered unto me; and to whomsoever I will I give it. If thou therefore wilt worship me, all shall be thine."

And Jesus answered and said unto him, Get thee behind me, Satan: for it is written, Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and him only shalt thou serve.

And he brought him to Jerusalem, and set him on a pinnacle of the temple, and said unto him, "If thou be the Son of God, cast thyself down from hence:

For it is written, He shall give his angels charge over thee, to keep thee: And in their hands they shall bear thee up, lest at any time thou dash thy foot against a stone.

And Jesus answering said unto him, It is said, "Thou shalt not tempt the Lord thy God."

And when the devil had ended all the temptation, he departed from him for a season.

And Jesus returned in the power of the Spirit into Galilee: and there went out a fame of him through all the region round about.


Modifié par Bill Casey, 01 novembre 2012 - 04:37 .


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Masster, do you really not know how to spell Satan?

I mean, after I made fun of your first spelling, you went back and changed it to another incorrect spelling.

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byne wrote...

Masster, do you really not know how to spell Satan?

I mean, after I made fun of your first spelling, you went back and changed it to another incorrect spelling.


It's easy to remember how to spell Satan, because it's an anagram for Santa, which I'm sure is totally coincidence or something.

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Alright, I'm going to bed. Goodnight.

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I don't know how to spell Satan either...
I think it's spelled Suntan...

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Garrus: Don't forget to come up for air, there's a lot more war to go.

Love that line

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Bill Casey wrote...

I don't know how to spell Satan either...
I think it's spelled Suntan...


R-u-p-e-r-t M-u-r-d-o-c-k.

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Night. Byne, and right now i am in no shape to spell satan, but ya. XD. Bill well said, and Jesus died for all of mankind so they can be saved. Well look at Synthesis. Jesus dies for everyone so that mankind can worship god, and die for our sins. Yet Shepard is dying for Synthesising the galaxy.

Yet form Luke 4 to me it's like Jesus is refuseing/picking Destroy.

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Okay I am going to bed.

P.s. I completed the Halloween challenge, but I didn't get my Banner. I did everything, but no banner? How do I get it, or put it on?

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Rifneno wrote...

Bill Casey wrote...

I don't know how to spell Satan either...
I think it's spelled Suntan...


R-u-p-e-r-t M-u-r-d-o-c-k.


Scott Baio is the antichrist

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So guys, I'm doing a new playthrough of my main Ambrose Shepard and I'll be trying to keep along with my boyfriend. Just finished Mars. :)

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masster blaster wrote...

Okay I am going to bed.

P.s. I completed the Halloween challenge, but I didn't get my Banner. I did everything, but no banner? How do I get it, or put it on?


Go onto n7hq and go to "challenge awards" up the top next to "profile"

Modifié par JMDekker2, 01 novembre 2012 - 05:25 .


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 ***spoilers***

www.cinemablend.com/games/Assassin-Creed-3-Wii-U-Get-All-DLC-48824.html

****end spoilers****

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Btw for those who want to know it also talks about what ps3 and Xbox get for dlc

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Eryri wrote...

Davik Kang wrote...

Eryri wrote...
I remember watching an episode of Horizon (Nova in the US) which went way over my head, about how some infinities included others as subsets - like the set of odd numbers is infinite, but is still somehow less than the set of odd numbers plus even numbers?

In the example you gave, you know that there are infinite odd numbers because no matter what odd you number you came up with in your head, you could always come up with a bigger one, just by adding 2 or putting another odd number on the end).  But for every odd number, you also have an even number (just add 1 to get a unique even number for every odd number).  So you can see that there are the same number of odd and even numbers (even though both are infinite).

So if you kept counting all the odd numbers forever and theoretically reached infinity, you'd have double that number of all positive natural numbers (in other words odd numbers + even numbers).  So your infinite set is twice as large.  But for practical purposes this stuff doesn't have too many uses in every day life so it's not worth taking too much time thinking over really :D


Thanks Davik and Restrider. This stuff is pretty mindbending, but it's a bit beyond me to be honest. That's why I did Biology at college - easier maths.

By the way Davik, please don't think my sarcastic comment from yesterday was directed at you. It was the one I made making fun of synthesis supporters which I later removed because it was a bit mean and childish, and I didn't want to offend LDS Darth Revan who seems a very reasonable person.

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demersel wrote...

Doomsday, neat idea. Besides - remember in cerberus news daily there was a story about a very old derelict ship containing entire civilization inside - and how allince scientist were going to interface with them to figure out a way to save them....

But the thing is - Sovereign was fully aware of what he is, and didn't seem to mind it even a little bit. Perhaps the destroyers are different from capital ship reapers in that way.

I agree with that being an interesting concept. To use an anime parallel (I'll do this a lot) is the Philosopher Stones in Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood. It the show, the souls of the people sacrificed are showed inside the stone, though in agony, but the one inside Hoenheim have actually accepted their fate and dwell peacefully inside him, even helping in the final fight. Granted, he genuinely wanted peace of mind for them, but indoctrination can play a similar effect on those inside of a Reaper.
 
As for Sovereign, I've always seen him as one of Harbinger's and Catalyst's top lieutenants since he is trusted to start the cycle, and therefore may be enhanced more than other Reaper dreadnaughts. an example is that it took entire fleets to kill him, yet only several dreadnaughts to kill a random one over Earth. 

Modifié par LDS Darth Revan, 01 novembre 2012 - 06:27 .