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Was the Ending a Hallucination? - Indoctrination Theory Mark III!


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Rifneno

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demersel wrote...

Yeah...the moment when Shepard recited a poem back at Ash - that was the moment when i realised that Shepard is better than me.


For me, it was when Shepard instinctively saved Ash on Mars.  I didn't even give a fraction of a damn about her.

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So Rif, you agree with me that Kaidan > Ash?

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Hanako Ikezawa

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Here's the poem from her apology email after Horizon, it's all I could find so far:
Death closes all: but something ere the end
Some work of noble note, may yet be done,
Not unbecoming men that strove with Gods.

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Restrider wrote...

So Rif, you agree with me that Kaidan > Ash?


In the sense that being shot > being set on fire, yes.

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Restrider wrote...

So Rif, you agree with me that Kaidan > Ash?


Ash may be annoying most of the time, but at least she has a personality.

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Ash > Kaidan. But that's not much considering Kaidan is the worst squadmate right after Jacob for me.

Should have used Zaeed and Kasumi instead of VS.

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Humakt83 wrote...

Ash > Kaidan. But that's not much considering Kaidan is the worst squadmate right after Jacob for me.

Should have used Zaeed and Kasumi instead of VS.


I dont actually like Zaeed either. He's just your generic tough old mercenary.

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Restrider wrote...

So Rif, you agree with me that Kaidan > Ash?


Hey I like Ash, and as for Kadin he is just boring, I mean he is not really Shepard's bro, that's Garrus, and Wrex. Also Kadin is more depressed, were as Ash she is what I would expect for a real soldier to act. people just hate Ash because of ME1, but really changed over time. Also people hate Ash because she doesn't trust Shepard, and I can't blame here.

We came back from the DEAD, and Shepard acted like nothing happened, but two years. It's like if a soldier goes missing for about two years, and comes back home to be welcomed back at his home with open arms. You don't think a person would hate you, and just be over welmed with joy/anger.

Heck she is the only one that really question Shepard. If Shepard was Indoctrinated in Synthesis, and Control which he/she is, I know she can kill my Shepard, and she has good morals.

Modifié par masster blaster, 01 novembre 2012 - 11:32 .


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Anyone still remembers Ash's ghost on the Citadel? And her creepy face during the mission to find the Rachni Queen?

Modifié par paxxton, 01 novembre 2012 - 11:32 .


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LDS Darth Revan wrote...

Here's the poem from her apology email after Horizon, it's all I could find so far:
Death closes all: but something ere the end
Some work of noble note, may yet be done,
Not unbecoming men that strove with Gods.


god dam it this remind me of the endings.

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paxxton wrote...

Anyone still remembers Ash's ghost on the Citadel?

It probsbly wasn't a ghost, Paxxton. I believe they just quickly moved Ashely to the side of the screen in order to save time.

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Am I the only one who actually likes Kaidan? Though I must admit, it probobly is because every time I hear Kaidan it reminds me of the good old days with Carth and Bastilla. I really like the VA for them.

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estebanus wrote...

paxxton wrote...

Anyone still remembers Ash's ghost on the Citadel?

It probsbly wasn't a ghost, Paxxton. I believe they just quickly moved Ashely to the side of the screen in order to save time.


I'm pretty sure the ghost was Kaidan being there on a playthrough where Ash was alive.

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paxxton wrote...

Anyone still remembers Ash's ghost on the Citadel? And her creepy face during the mission to find the Rachni Queen?


Yes, for the Citadel. No, for the latter, got pics?

Modifié par Humakt83, 01 novembre 2012 - 11:33 .


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estebanus wrote...

paxxton wrote...

Anyone still remembers Ash's ghost on the Citadel?

It probsbly wasn't a ghost, Paxxton. I believe they just quickly moved Ashely to the side of the screen in order to save time.

But IIRC in that playthrough she died on Virmire.

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byne wrote...

estebanus wrote...

paxxton wrote...

Anyone still remembers Ash's ghost on the Citadel?

It probsbly wasn't a ghost, Paxxton. I believe they just quickly moved Ashely to the side of the screen in order to save time.


I'm pretty sure the ghost was Kaidan being there on a playthrough where Ash was alive.

And vice-versa. They're there in both.

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401 Kill wrote...

Am I the only one who actually likes Kaidan? Though I must admit, it probobly is because every time I hear Kaidan it reminds me of the good old days with Carth and Bastilla. I really like the VA for them.


I'm pretty sure at least half of why I hate Kaidan is because I hated Carth so much.

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So, who sides with Vreenak and who with Sisko?
Here is the poll.

Modifié par Restrider, 01 novembre 2012 - 11:42 .


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paxxton wrote...

estebanus wrote...

paxxton wrote...

Anyone still remembers Ash's ghost on the Citadel?

It probsbly wasn't a ghost, Paxxton. I believe they just quickly moved Ashely to the side of the screen in order to save time.

But IIRC in that playthrough she died on Virmire.

Did you just ignore what I said?

I said that they probably just moved Ashley/Kaidan to the side of the screen in order to save time, because it'd take longer to completely remove them.

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401 Kill wrote...

Am I the only one who actually likes Kaidan? Though I must admit, it probobly is because every time I hear Kaidan it reminds me of the good old days with Carth and Bastilla. I really like the VA for them.


To be honest I hate Carth. I felt sorry for him, but he really was just there. Also I hated that he was the only member other than HK 47, and Ti 83 ( Think that's what they were called) are in the game. Where the hell was everyone else?

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THAT WHICH HAS BEEN SEEN CANNOT BE UNSEEN.

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masster blaster wrote...

401 Kill wrote...

Am I the only one who actually likes Kaidan? Though I must admit, it probobly is because every time I hear Kaidan it reminds me of the good old days with Carth and Bastilla. I really like the VA for them.


To be honest I hate Carth. I felt sorry for him, but he really was just there. Also I hated that he was the only member other than HK 47, and Ti 83 ( Think that's what they were called) are in the game. Where the hell was everyone else?


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TI 83 was the best KotoR teammate by far.

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Rifneno wrote...

Posted Image

THAT WHICH HAS BEEN SEEN CANNOT BE UNSEEN.

I remember that picture.

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estebanus wrote...

paxxton wrote...

estebanus wrote...

paxxton wrote...

Anyone still remembers Ash's ghost on the Citadel?

It probsbly wasn't a ghost, Paxxton. I believe they just quickly moved Ashely to the side of the screen in order to save time.

But IIRC in that playthrough she died on Virmire.

Did you just ignore what I said?

I said that they probably just moved Ashley/Kaidan to the side of the screen in order to save time, because it'd take longer to completely remove them.

I think they might have moved her off-screen so that they wouldn't have to waste time loading her char. Posted Image But it doesn't make sense. Why would they put the Virmire KIA model at all in a playthrough that only needs the VS model? They load assets during the load screen.

Modifié par paxxton, 01 novembre 2012 - 11:43 .


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401 Kill wrote...

Am I the only one who actually likes Kaidan? Though I must admit, it probobly is because every time I hear Kaidan it reminds me of the good old days with Carth and Bastilla. I really like the VA for them.

No, you are not alone. I can see where all the Jacob bashes comes from, and I agree.
But I think the whole Kaidan bashing is exaggerated. It is reasonable that the aliens are more interesting, but Kaidan's character is quite good, imho.
Edit: I am having a field day...

Modifié par Restrider, 01 novembre 2012 - 11:38 .