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[BleedingUranium]

BansheeOwnage wrote...

Discuss! (Ny Day Art in case anyone missed it.)

There are a lot of things I don't know what to make of.

TIM is alone but has the Collector Base and Omega.

Saren is alone but has Relays and Citadel (Reapers).

Shepard has 18 people to support him.

Each squadmate pairs up nicely with the one opposite (not the pics), except there's no opposite to Mordin. Also, Garrus and Wrex are Shepard's bros.

Modifié par BleedingUranium, 02 novembre 2012 - 08:03 .

[jojon2se]

BleedingUranium wrote...
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Shepard has 18 people to support him.

Each squadmate pairs up nicely with the one opposite (not the pics), except there's no opposite to Mordin.
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Very symmetrical. It strikes me that the configuration kind of makes the array of teammates look like a pair of wings on Shepard -- Whether accidental or intentional; that would be some rather nice symbolism for how the squad helps carry Shepard. (I suppose those who enjoy the biblical parallels would have a thing or to to say, as well...)

Modifié par jojon2se, 02 novembre 2012 - 09:18 .

[Eryri]

jojon2se wrote...

Very symmetrical. It strikes me that the configuration kind of makes the array of teammates look like a pair of wings on Shepard -- Whether accidental or intentional; that would be some rather nice symbolism for how the squad helps carry Shepard. (I suppose those who enjoy the biblical parallels would have a thing or to to say, as well...)

Would that make Saren and the Illusive Man; the Devils on his shoulder? Tempting him towards synthesis and control? 

Modifié par Eryri, 02 novembre 2012 - 11:20 .

[demersel]

And of course there is a thing that garrus represents paragon, and wrex represents renegade.

[Rifneno]

demersel wrote...

And of course there is a thing that garrus represents paragon, and wrex represents renegade.

I don't see how.  Garrus is an awesome guy, don't get me wrong, but he's pretty much the perfect example of how you can be renegade and still be a good guy.  He quit C-sec because he hates going by the book, he set up shop in Omega and started murdering the **** out of evil scumbags of his own accord.  Paragon always tries for the peaceful solution and is generally Lawful-Stupid.  Lawful-Stupid Shepard can even admonish Garrus for being a vigilante.

And Wrex... he's not the traditional paragon, but what he's doing with the krogan is as close as you can get to paragon with the krogan.

[demersel]

Riferno, just basic colorwise? ))) As sort to imply that both paragon and renegade are both awesome and heroic? and it is not simply good vs bad?

Modifié par demersel, 02 novembre 2012 - 11:27 .

[JMDekker2]

I agree with rifneno on this one. Garrus is the ultimate renegade, with just the right amount of paragon mixed in. Pretty much used him as a guide for most of the smaller decisions in the game.
"At least we killed Lieutenant-Bastard Kai Leng, I just hope we get to do the same for his general. "

[JMDekker2]

I agree with rifneno on this one. Garrus is the ultimate renegade, with just the right amount of paragon mixed in. Pretty much used him as a guide for most of the smaller decisions in the game.
"At least we killed Lieutenant-Bastard Kai Leng, I just hope we get to do the same for his general. "

Edit - Stupid BSN

Modifié par JMDekker2, 02 novembre 2012 - 12:07 .

[masster blaster]

Morning everyone. Now about that Picture where is Harbinger? I should see Harbing's face behind TIM, Saren, and Shepard. Then again it would be a dead give away because people would think...

" oh Harbinger is controling TIM, and Saren and now Shepard. Also I wish Anderson, and Hackett were on there.

Anywas isn't it funny that Ash is on Shepard's right, and Liara is on Shepard's left. Symbolism. That goes with everyone else.

To be honest really it's just a cover nothing more, but I will say this Shepard hold a Cerberus weapon is funny. If you look closely at the weapon Shepard is holding you can see the symbol. Could be nothing but it was funny to me.


Oh and one more thing. I think someone should create an IT video about Leviathan and the endings. Since a good portion of people don't like to read stuff, let's do a comparison video on Leviathan ending, and wake up from Harbingers blast to the chocie.

We can either talk about it, or just put some subtitles in it to show people what's really happening, if they don't get the comparasion part. I wish I could but my parents said no. That is why I am asking anyone of you to make it. Please.

[estebanus]

masster blaster wrote...

To be honest really it's just a cover nothing more, but I will say this Shepard hold a Cerberus weapon is funny. If you look closely at the weapon Shepard is holding you can see the symbol. Could be nothing but it was funny to me.

Uhm... No. That's the Mattock, and there's no Cerberus symbol on it.

[Baihu1983]

BleedingUranium wrote...




except there's no opposite to Mordin.

They would have got it wrong.

[masster blaster]

I take that back no Cerberus symbol on Shepard's gun, but Miranda has her Cerberus symbol on her left sholder.

Also " Millions of years after your are gone we will enduer." I misspelled it, but you get the point. The epilogues millions of years after Shepard is gone the Reapers will enduer.

Also Doomsday for the list of IT quotes.

" yes people will die, but we will fight your regaurdless. We will fight, we will sacrifice and we will find another way."

Harbinger: know this as you die your species will be our, and your leaders will beg to serve us. Prepare yourself for our arrival."

Just incase I messed it up double check it please. Have to go to class now so see ya.

[estebanus]

masster blaster wrote...

Also Doomsday for the list of IT quotes.

" yes people will die, but we will fight your regaurdless. We will fight, we will sacrifice and we will find another way."

That has nothing to do with the IT! If anything, it merely supports destroy!

[Leonia]

Rifneno wrote...

demersel wrote...

And of course there is a thing that garrus represents paragon, and wrex represents renegade.

I don't see how.  Garrus is an awesome guy, don't get me wrong, but he's pretty much the perfect example of how you can be renegade and still be a good guy.  He quit C-sec because he hates going by the book, he set up shop in Omega and started murdering the **** out of evil scumbags of his own accord.  Paragon always tries for the peaceful solution and is generally Lawful-Stupid.  Lawful-Stupid Shepard can even admonish Garrus for being a vigilante.

And Wrex... he's not the traditional paragon, but what he's doing with the krogan is as close as you can get to paragon with the krogan.

My thoughts exactly. But to be fair, blue has always been more of Garrus' colour and red is more Wrex. Maybe it has nothing to do with symoblism at all.

It's a great piece of art though it's odd that the Reapers aren't heavily portrayed. Cool to see Saren in some new artwork though. Overall it reminds me of the traditional Star Wars movie posters, which didn't have too much overt symbolism going on either.

[estebanus]

A Bethesda Fan wrote...

estebanus wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

Also Doomsday for the list of IT quotes.

" yes people will die, but we will fight your regaurdless. We will fight, we will sacrifice and we will find another way."

That has nothing to do with the IT! If anything, it merely supports destroy!

Quite incorrect, that can easily be used to support IT.

Bulls*t! Just because it supports destroy doesn't mean it supports the IT!

[Gwyphon]

Any piece of evidence that pushes destroy as the correct option, only for everything to be turned on the head at the end supports the theory that the ending is what is out of place, not the foreshadowing. So yeah personally I believe that any bit of the game that supports destroy supports IT.

[smokingotter1]

Gwyphon wrote...

Any piece of evidence that pushes destroy as the correct option, only for everything to be turned on the head at the end supports the theory that the ending is what is out of place, not the foreshadowing. So yeah personally I believe that any bit of the game that supports destroy supports IT.

First playthrough the words of this man echoed in my head

"Listen to me, destroy that ship (reapers). Whatever it takes. Destroy it!"


And I choose destroy. No regrets. Different game, same advice. And it works.
I did it for you Eli.

Modifié par smokingotter1, 02 novembre 2012 - 02:23 .

[MegumiAzusa]

I like the division of Paragon and Renegade in that picture.

[KyreneZA]

Eryri wrote...

jojon2se wrote...

Very symmetrical. It strikes me that the configuration kind of makes the array of teammates look like a pair of wings on Shepard -- Whether accidental or intentional; that would be some rather nice symbolism for how the squad helps carry Shepard. (I suppose those who enjoy the biblical parallels would have a thing or to to say, as well...)

Would that make Saren and the Illusive Man; the Devils on his shoulder? Tempting him towards synthesis and control? 

Would that make Harbinger Satan?

Also notice how between each tempter and Shepard, there is a bro to protect him.

Is there a high-res version of that pic somewhere?

[MegumiAzusa]

leonia42 wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

demersel wrote...

And of course there is a thing that garrus represents paragon, and wrex represents renegade.

I don't see how.  Garrus is an awesome guy, don't get me wrong, but he's pretty much the perfect example of how you can be renegade and still be a good guy.  He quit C-sec because he hates going by the book, he set up shop in Omega and started murdering the **** out of evil scumbags of his own accord.  Paragon always tries for the peaceful solution and is generally Lawful-Stupid.  Lawful-Stupid Shepard can even admonish Garrus for being a vigilante.

And Wrex... he's not the traditional paragon, but what he's doing with the krogan is as close as you can get to paragon with the krogan.

My thoughts exactly. But to be fair, blue has always been more of Garrus' colour and red is more Wrex. Maybe it has nothing to do with symoblism at all.

It's a great piece of art though it's odd that the Reapers aren't heavily portrayed. Cool to see Saren in some new artwork though. Overall it reminds me of the traditional Star Wars movie posters, which didn't have too much overt symbolism going on either.

So that would make Samara 100% renegade?

[MegumiAzusa]

Kyrene wrote...

Eryri wrote...

jojon2se wrote...

Very symmetrical. It strikes me that the configuration kind of makes the array of teammates look like a pair of wings on Shepard -- Whether accidental or intentional; that would be some rather nice symbolism for how the squad helps carry Shepard. (I suppose those who enjoy the biblical parallels would have a thing or to to say, as well...)

Would that make Saren and the Illusive Man; the Devils on his shoulder? Tempting him towards synthesis and control? 

Would that make Harbinger Satan?

Also notice how between each tempter and Shepard, there is a bro to protect him.

Is there a high-res version of that pic somewhere?

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[DoomsdayDevice]

estebanus wrote...

A Bethesda Fan wrote...

estebanus wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

Also Doomsday for the list of IT quotes.

" yes people will die, but we will fight your regaurdless. We will fight, we will sacrifice and we will find another way."

That has nothing to do with the IT! If anything, it merely supports destroy!

Quite incorrect, that can easily be used to support IT.

Bulls*t! Just because it supports destroy doesn't mean it supports the IT!

You are slowly turning into the thread's personal troll, you know that? Calm the hell down.

Even though the quote does not outright support IT, we are collecting quotes that support destroy. That said, quotes from people other than Shepard hold more weight, IMO, because Shepard is also the one who is wondering if the Illusive Man is right, at some point. 

Modifié par DoomsdayDevice, 02 novembre 2012 - 02:49 .

[MegumiAzusa]

DoomsdayDevice wrote...

estebanus wrote...

A Bethesda Fan wrote...

estebanus wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

Also Doomsday for the list of IT quotes.

" yes people will die, but we will fight your regaurdless. We will fight, we will sacrifice and we will find another way."

That has nothing to do with the IT! If anything, it merely supports destroy!

Quite incorrect, that can easily be used to support IT.

Bulls*t! Just because it supports destroy doesn't mean it supports the IT!

You are slowly turning into the thread's personal troll, you know that? Calm the hell down.

Even though the quote does not outright support IT, we are collecting quotes that support destroy. That said, quotes from people other than Shepard hold more weight, IMO, because Shepard is also the one who is wondering if the Illusive Man is right, at some point.

I cannot see the point in collecting these quotes. They do nothing but serve your satisfaction of "I made the right choice" and it doesn't matter one bit if IT or literal. I also cannot see how that makes estebanus a troll.

Modifié par MegumiAzusa, 02 novembre 2012 - 02:52 .