SwobyJ wrote...
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And of course there is a thing that garrus represents paragon, and wrex represents renegade.
I don't see how. Garrus is an awesome guy, don't get me wrong, but he's pretty much the perfect example of how you can be renegade and still be a good guy. He quit C-sec because he hates going by the book, he set up shop in Omega and started murdering the **** out of evil scumbags of his own accord. Paragon always tries for the peaceful solution and is generally Lawful-Stupid. Lawful-Stupid Shepard can even admonish Garrus for being a vigilante.
And Wrex... he's not the traditional paragon, but what he's doing with the krogan is as close as you can get to paragon with the krogan.
My thoughts exactly. But to be fair, blue has always been more of Garrus' colour and red is more Wrex. Maybe it has nothing to do with symoblism at all.
It's a great piece of art though it's odd that the Reapers aren't heavily portrayed. Cool to see Saren in some new artwork though. Overall it reminds me of the traditional Star Wars movie posters, which didn't have too much overt symbolism going on either.
So that would make Samara 100% renegade?
I think Samara is 100% renegade and it is only her culture's more aesthetic approach along with her love for her daughters that allow you to barely convince her away from pure Renegade.
A paragon has to continually intervene in order to get her to leave the narrative with her one daughter and her own life intact. That's how strong her Renegade is.
Apolgies for the quote pyramid but it's all relevant here.
It would be interesting to see the relative Paragon and Renegade scores for each character, like we could see LS/DS for our companions in the KotOR games.
The difference between Garrus and Wrex for me is about choice. Wrex seems like a pantomime Renegade, but he's been corridored down this route. As a Krogan, he really doesn't have a choice in being hard as nails. A weak Krogan has no place in the world. For a Krogan I think he's pretty Paragon, speaking relatively. He has had to deal with tough realities, including the Genophage, and his own biotic abilities (which mark him out as distrustful don't they? I thought he said something like that in ME1).
Wrex was my favourite character in ME1. I always felt like he begrudgingly gave Shepard a lot of respect, even in the way he said "Shepard" when you ended Normandy conversations. It seemed like Shepard and Wrex were teaching each other that there is a lot more to people thatn the surface impressions. (Remember that in ME1, racial tension and distrust of other races was a big issue. Shepard and Wrex showed each other that even with totally different backgrounds, they could share the same strengths and values).
Garrus used to annoy in ME1 cos he seemed very Paragon. He was always trying to do the right thing, and because C-Sec red tape wouldn't allow it, he seemed pretty whiny. This changed in ME2 with him becoming Archangel. He made the choice to accept more responsibility for his actions and be willing enough to make Renegade choices when necessary. His personality seemed to have changed significantly, because of what happened to his squad.
So both of these would have strong elements of both Paragon and Renegade.
I find Samara much harder to guage. She is almost neutral - no passionate choices either side. She sticks to her Justicar code irrepective of her own opinions on any matter. This often makes her cold and ruthless in her actions, but I don't think that relates to being Renegade. Really, her only Para/Rene scores would occur when she makes a choice outside of that code. For example, when she decides to shoot herself rather than murder her daughter. That is a classic Paragon choice I feel.
About the artwork, I think there are reasons we could find to decide why each character is on the red or blue side, but I don't think it's as simple as representing Paragon and Renegade personalities.
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