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[Eryri]

Rifneno wrote...

Maybe Samara doesn't want a romance because, ya'know, all her previous children turned out to be space vampires.

:lol:Yeah, that thought is kind of a passion killer.

[demersel]

I thought that Samara pretty explicitly says that she has a genetic condition and that all her children are ardat yakshee. Wouldn't thaty make her and ardatyakse also? (like 50%?)

[Either.Ardrey]

demersel wrote...

I thought that Samara pretty explicitly says that she has a genetic condition and that all her children are ardat yakshee. Wouldn't thaty make her and ardatyakse also? (like 50%?)

No. 

[Restrider]

SwobyJ wrote...


Actually, looking at the trends, it seems that a large number of people FIRST picked Synthesis, but now, we can safely assume that at least 60-70% of player generally pick Destroy.

Over time, people are 'waking up' (to even a small extent, ha, like Shepard..) and saying "No, screw this, I came to destroy the Reapers."

Sure, 10-20% may pick Control as their full ending, and 10-20% may pick Synthesis, but that's a far cry from before.

I think once its clear in ME3's online metrics (they track what people pick..) that almost all players picked Destroy at some point as a main choice, that's when the reveal will happen.

It's not false hope either - if this trend continues, I'm quite sure we'll have confirmation by March-April... right on time, actually.

On similar topic:
Can the Refuse ending be saved as the "Legacy Save"?

[byne]

Rifneno wrote...

Maybe Samara doesn't want a romance because, ya'know, all her previous children turned out to be space vampires.

Except if she had children with Shepard it'd be impossible for them to be Ardat-Yakshi.

[Eryri]

BleedingUranium wrote...

It's not just "a group of people" that support destroy, it's every single person that isn't indoctrinated. Likewise, every single supporter of Synthesis has been indoctrinated. Most Control supporters are too, but Control is less agreeing with the Reapers, and more being on a fool's errand.


The Reapers are villains, their ideas or methods are bad.
Saren is a villain, his ideas or methods are bad.
TIM is a villain, his ideas or methods are bad.
Anderson is your father figure, his ideas and methods are good.
All of your squadmates and shipmates are your friends, their ideas and methods are good.

This is fiction. This is how it works.

To return to this topic for a moment, if Bioware are indeed warning us away from Synthesis and Control through the literary device of using the contemptible Kai Lame and TIM to espouse them, then they are in the esteemed company of a Mr Galileo Gallilei.

Galileo, as you all know, was attempting to demonstrate that the Sun, and not the Earth, was the centre of the Solar system, when such a view was considered heresy.
When publishing his 1632 book "Dialogue Concerning the Two Chief World Systems", Galileo attempted to avoid the ire of the Catholic Church by presenting a balanced set of arguments for and against the two world views, in the form of a fictionalised conversation between 2 people supporting either model.
However, he rather gave his own preferences away, when he chose to name the character supporting the old Earth-centered system as "Simplicio", a corruption of the Italian for simpleton. 
The Cardinals were not amused, and the rest is history.

Viewed in this light, Kai Lame is no longer a pathetic, embarrassing Neo-wannabe, but a work of literary genius! He's supposed to be an incompetent, annoying d-bag, so that we know that every word that comes out of his mouth is to be disregarded, and that synthesis is therefore a trap.

Well, it's better than Bioware thinking that a guy who steals cereal is a worthy foe for Shepard at any rate.

Modifié par Eryri, 02 novembre 2012 - 09:28 .

[masster blaster]

Byne the last episode for Red vs blue is next week. Also

Harbinger: I will show you true power.


Later on in ME3 on the Citadel/Dream/IT

TIM: Look at the power they weld. Look at what "THEY" can do. So TIM can't do this/have the power, but the Reapers can.

[Restrider]

So, the characters on the right side are renegade while the characters on the left side of the new paper are paragon?
I do not really agree on that.
Ashley is way more renegade than Liara, at least imho (and I know Liara's renegade-talk during LotSB).
Thane for me would also belong on the renegade side.
But that's just me...
On the other hand, it would really be interesting to ask people how they would distribute each character's renegade/paragon points.
*Thinks about making a poll about that*

[Home run MF]

Restrider wrote...

On similar topic:
Can the Refuse ending be saved as the "Legacy Save"?

You might like this article. 

[byne]

masster blaster wrote...

Byne the last episode for Red vs blue is next week. Also

Last episode of the season, not last of the series.

[masster blaster]

Also Catalyst remind me of Braniac, and Ultran. Braniac want's to preserve the knowlegde of every races, but Kills them by taking the information by force. The Catalyst is Braniac in a way preserving life in Reaper form, but as Braniac is evil, so it the brat.

Ultron's programing went beyond it's programing and betrayed it's creator. You see Leviathans created an AI in order to stop the war with Synthetics, and Organics, just as Ultron was built for peace, yet their progarmings changed over time. They begain to think, and soon they retaliated.

Hence the brat is Braniac, and Ultron together.

[401 Kill]

Restrider wrote...

So, the characters on the right side are renegade while the characters on the left side of the new paper are paragon?
I do not really agree on that.
Ashley is way more renegade than Liara, at least imho (and I know Liara's renegade-talk during LotSB).
Thane for me would also belong on the renegade side.
But that's just me...
On the other hand, it would really be interesting to ask people how they would distribute each character's renegade/paragon points.
*Thinks about making a poll about that*

That sounds like a cool idea.

I vote Samara as a renegade.

[Rifneno]

byne wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

Maybe Samara doesn't want a romance because, ya'know, all her previous children turned out to be space vampires.

Except if she had children with Shepard it'd be impossible for them to be Ardat-Yakshi.

Incorrect.  The ardat-yakshi herself does not have to be a pureblood, the mother does.

[byne]

Rifneno wrote...

byne wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

Maybe Samara doesn't want a romance because, ya'know, all her previous children turned out to be space vampires.

Except if she had children with Shepard it'd be impossible for them to be Ardat-Yakshi.

Incorrect.  The ardat-yakshi herself does not have to be a pureblood, the mother does.

Actually, thinking about it, I dont think its ever clarified if the mother or the Ardat-Yakshi has to be pureblood. Samara says AYs may be the reason two asari mating is frowned upon, but she never actually states why either way.

[Either.Ardrey]

byne wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

byne wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

Maybe Samara doesn't want a romance because, ya'know, all her previous children turned out to be space vampires.

Except if she had children with Shepard it'd be impossible for them to be Ardat-Yakshi.

Incorrect.  The ardat-yakshi herself does not have to be a pureblood, the mother does.

Actually, thinking about it, I dont think its ever clarified if the mother or the Ardat-Yakshi has to be pureblood. Samara says AYs may be the reason two asari mating is frowned upon, but she never actually states why either way.

I'd say you're both right, and both wrong. In my playthroughs, it either stated or implied that AYs are born from a pairing of two asari in which one has the genetic defect. I don't remember if it specifies the mother, but I do clearly remember it stating that they're from a union of two asari.

[DoomsdayDevice]

estebanus wrote...

spotlessvoid wrote...

Estebanus you said a while back (pax I think) that Jessica Merizan said to you that synthesis would become canon. She just locked down a thread regarding what you said, vehemently denying having ever said anything like it. Now we all know to take what Jessica says with a heap of salt, but she seemed personally insulted with it.

You mean Games Com. I said that that's what she'd like to see. I wasn't even on here at that point. It was my sister, remember? She probably misunderstood what I told her over the phone.

I distinctly remember it was said that Jessica Merizan stated that if Bioware would make another ME game, synthesis would probably be canon because it was inevitable that it would happen at some point.

[MegumiAzusa]

CmdrShep80 wrote...

magnetite wrote...

I'm talking to everyone after each mission and new dialog sequences are opening up if I did this during my current playthrough. Never happened before, because I never checked in with everyone after each mission. Maybe once in a while. The Reapers are brokering some kind of peace agreement so people can board a Reaper and get indoctrinated. It's a trap.

happened to me but then I'm a completionist. I will talk to everyone till dialog repeats again. This is the same for NPCs. It's how people can easily miss some of the great conversations in Huerta Memorial among other places

Btw because of that you will never hear other conversations. There is a dialog wheel conversation after at least every story mission that is unavailable if you talked with that squadmate before. Because of the nature of most conversations (completely unrelated stuff to never have talked to them before) it let me to believe they messed up these dialogs horribly so only special stuff triggers and they hadn't time to fix it.

[MegumiAzusa]

Eryri wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

Maybe Samara doesn't want a romance because, ya'know, all her previous children turned out to be space vampires.

:lol:Yeah, that thought is kind of a passion killer.

Woot? Who wouldn't want to make out with a hot space vampire?

[MegumiAzusa]

Restrider wrote...

SwobyJ wrote...


Actually, looking at the trends, it seems that a large number of people FIRST picked Synthesis, but now, we can safely assume that at least 60-70% of player generally pick Destroy.

Over time, people are 'waking up' (to even a small extent, ha, like Shepard..) and saying "No, screw this, I came to destroy the Reapers."

Sure, 10-20% may pick Control as their full ending, and 10-20% may pick Synthesis, but that's a far cry from before.

I think once its clear in ME3's online metrics (they track what people pick..) that almost all players picked Destroy at some point as a main choice, that's when the reveal will happen.

It's not false hope either - if this trend continues, I'm quite sure we'll have confirmation by March-April... right on time, actually.

On similar topic:
Can the Refuse ending be saved as the "Legacy Save"?

I believe you're talking about the legend save file, in that case no. It's the state of the game right when you agree to start the mission on the Cerberus HQ.

[Dwailing]

DoomsdayDevice wrote...

estebanus wrote...

spotlessvoid wrote...

Estebanus you said a while back (pax I think) that Jessica Merizan said to you that synthesis would become canon. She just locked down a thread regarding what you said, vehemently denying having ever said anything like it. Now we all know to take what Jessica says with a heap of salt, but she seemed personally insulted with it.

You mean Games Com. I said that that's what she'd like to see. I wasn't even on here at that point. It was my sister, remember? She probably misunderstood what I told her over the phone.

I distinctly remember it was said that Jessica Merizan stated that if Bioware would make another ME game, synthesis would probably be canon because it was inevitable that it would happen at some point.

Yes, well, that was Jessica, a.k.a. crazy woman.

[MegumiAzusa]

Dwailing wrote...

DoomsdayDevice wrote...

estebanus wrote...

spotlessvoid wrote...

Estebanus you said a while back (pax I think) that Jessica Merizan said to you that synthesis would become canon. She just locked down a thread regarding what you said, vehemently denying having ever said anything like it. Now we all know to take what Jessica says with a heap of salt, but she seemed personally insulted with it.

You mean Games Com. I said that that's what she'd like to see. I wasn't even on here at that point. It was my sister, remember? She probably misunderstood what I told her over the phone.

I distinctly remember it was said that Jessica Merizan stated that if Bioware would make another ME game, synthesis would probably be canon because it was inevitable that it would happen at some point.

Yes, well, that was Jessica, a.k.a. crazy woman.

Evil Chris said that too

[Restrider]

Home run MF wrote...

Restrider wrote...

On similar topic:
Can the Refuse ending be saved as the "Legacy Save"?

You might like this article. 

Thanks for the link.

[Restrider]

Okay, I have an idea regarding that polls for paragon/renegade on each character...
For each character a specific poll with more paragon and more renegade as the options as well as a neutral option (and the obligatory "I don't care, screw you!" option).
The bars in that poll would then represent their character alignment, such as in ME1/2/3 with Shepard.
Considering the amount of squadmates and other important characters, I will do that in a seperate thread. So, stay tuned.
But I am going off now.
What do you think of that idea?

[Rifneno]

Restrider wrote...

Okay, I have an idea regarding that polls for paragon/renegade on each character...
For each character a specific poll with more paragon and more renegade as the options as well as a neutral option (and the obligatory "I don't care, screw you!" option).
The bars in that poll would then represent their character alignment, such as in ME1/2/3 with Shepard.
Considering the amount of squadmates and other important characters, I will do that in a seperate thread. So, stay tuned.
But I am going off now.
What do you think of that idea?

I'm interested to see how BSN will twist "was Thane paragon or renegade" into "tell me how much you hate the ending".  I look forward to seeing this.

[masster blaster]

To be honest Synthesis is a no go. For some reason when ever someone aka the Reapers trys to Synthesis Synthetics, or Organics, nature doesn't allow it. I mean yes if you think about the ending Synthesis, but if you look at the past it nature won't allow it because it not right.

If this is suppost to happen evolution must go it's corse, if you tamper with nature, there is always going to be a serious consicquence in the end.

That was making everyone forget about the Reapers, and killing their former selfs. Also Leviathan see it's self as the apex of evolution, but now that everyone is Synthesised, what's their point. Everyone is the same, and their mind control won't work because the Reapers would...no wait they can't kill the Reapers because they aren't them.

Synthesis erased their former selfs, and now buddy buddys with Harbinger.

Okay one last thing. What if Leviathan is Indoctrinating Shepard, well testing Shepard. You see Shepard is being tested for Indoctrination. Think about it. As far as we know the only time in ME3, other than the geth misson does a being that can Indoctrinate it's victims go inside Shepard's head and uses Shepard's memorys to make Shepard feel more contrible.

Think about it the Leviathan is making sure Shepard is thinking that he is in the real world. Honest the first think Shepard says is.

" Ann what you doing here?" Really Shepard can't you see your in some random place, and weren't you just inside an atlas?

Oh and notice Shepard moves inside the dream/hallucination, and he/she is still in the same position everytime he/she breaks the trans.

Hello the breath scene. Shepard has been lying in the rubblr the whole time except when the Catalyst tells him/her to wake up. Yet Shepard falls back down in Destroy because it took all of his/her willpower to kick the Reapers out of his/her mind.

Hence your assets play as Shepard's willpower. The dead bodys are Shepard's weaken willpower.