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[smokingotter1]

plfranke wrote...

Yeah he is pretty intolerable lately. Estebanus why don't you turn in to your sister again? You were slightly more pleasant that way.

Or you can turn into an otter. Join the otters and you will be spared, join us and we can find a place for you.
Edit: liking seafood helps with the transition.

Modifié par smokingotter1, 03 novembre 2012 - 01:28 .

[estebanus]

Davik Kang wrote...

demersel wrote...
Davik, true ..but look at the polls - like the one ComdShep80 quoted - 46 votes in support for IT. So it is not just people in this thread-chatroom - we don't have 46 people. maybe 15 at the very most.

You've got way more than 46 too.  Support for IT exists outside this thread and outside these forums.  It's an attractive answer for the somewhat ambiguous ending.  Many people like it for different reasons, but many people like it nonetheless, and the group ranges from casual players to hardcore players, from ending lovers to ending haters, from players with little connection to the story to others obessed with the franchise...

The fact that IT gets brought up by professional journalists when talking about the game's aftermath speaks for itself...

Wasn't that during the time where there were more indoctrinationists on the BSN than literalists? I haven't seen many articles mentioning the IT in them since then.

[BatmanTurian]

estebanus wrote...

plfranke wrote...

Yeah he is pretty intolerable lately. Estebanus why don't you turn in to your sister again? You were slightly more pleasant that way.

dafuq. She's in Cyprus right now. How the hell is she supposed to come over here?

He's joking.

[plfranke]

IT support exists outside this thread but let's not go crazy thinking that it's very high. I'd say there's more support for the literal endings than there is for IT outside this thread. However, if people took time to evaluate all the evidence with an open mind I believe they'd be more supportive of the idea. It seems like a lot of people pick out the most unconvincing and ambiguous evidence of IT as representatives of the theory as a whole. For instance some people will point to the evidence like the dream foilage, but will completely ignore the similarities between the scene where we speak with Leviathan and the conversation with starchild. It's kind of wierd how they seem so intent on not believing IT to the pont of manipulating the evidence to make it seem like conspiracy theorist logic.

[BansheeOwnage]

estebanus wrote...

plfranke wrote...

Yeah he is pretty intolerable lately. Estebanus why don't you turn in to your sister again? You were slightly more pleasant that way.

dafuq. She's in Cyprus right now. How the hell is she supposed to come over here?

I don't think that was 100% serious. Come on man.

[smokingotter1]

plfranke wrote...

IT support exists outside this thread but let's not go crazy thinking that it's very high. I'd say there's more support for the literal endings than there is for IT outside this thread. However, if people took time to evaluate all the evidence with an open mind I believe they'd be more supportive of the idea. It seems like a lot of people pick out the most unconvincing and ambiguous evidence of IT as representatives of the theory as a whole. For instance some people will point to the evidence like the dream foilage, but will completely ignore the similarities between the scene where we speak with Leviathan and the conversation with starchild. It's kind of wierd how they seem so intent on not believing IT to the pont of manipulating the evidence to make it seem like conspiracy theorist logic.

I think IT is real and intended and people most likely to see it and care about it are the same people who are most likely to purchase DLC and play MP. Casuals have moved on to their Halo 5 and AC4s and their Diablo 8s already. The vast majority may be litereralists, but are they were never the target audience so no harm no foul.

Modifié par smokingotter1, 03 novembre 2012 - 01:30 .

[spotlessvoid]

Why does someone who thinks IT is not what Bioware intended, that it's bad writing, spend so much time exclusively in this thread spewing negativity, nitpicking everything, contributing nothing, and being rude to all but a few select people?

[estebanus]

BansheeOwnage wrote...

estebanus wrote...

plfranke wrote...

Yeah he is pretty intolerable lately. Estebanus why don't you turn in to your sister again? You were slightly more pleasant that way.

dafuq. She's in Cyprus right now. How the hell is she supposed to come over here?

I don't think that was 100% serious. Come on man.

Judging from the PMs she sent you, he apparently believed that I was actually my sister, and that I was acting that I was someone else.

[BansheeOwnage]

estebanus wrote...

spotlessvoid wrote...

IT is on the front page, usually top 5, of the bsn. Everyone on the bsn knows this thread

Yes, and it's the same group of people that have been here since the beginning that havekept the thread alive up until now.Compared to many other threads, there are a lot less active people in here, however the people who are active are really active.

Actually, this thread is fairly dynamic. There are few people here that were at the beginning. And there are many lurkers. Who knows how long they've been here?

[BatmanTurian]

plfranke wrote...

IT support exists outside this thread but let's not go crazy thinking that it's very high. I'd say there's more support for the literal endings than there is for IT outside this thread. However, if people took time to evaluate all the evidence with an open mind I believe they'd be more supportive of the idea. It seems like a lot of people pick out the most unconvincing and ambiguous evidence of IT as representatives of the theory as a whole. For instance some people will point to the evidence like the dream foilage, but will completely ignore the similarities between the scene where we speak with Leviathan and the conversation with starchild. It's kind of wierd how they seem so intent on not believing IT to the pont of manipulating the evidence to make it seem like conspiracy theorist logic.

I believe that's called confirmation bias and denial?

[BansheeOwnage]

estebanus wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

estebanus wrote...

plfranke wrote...

Yeah he is pretty intolerable lately. Estebanus why don't you turn in to your sister again? You were slightly more pleasant that way.

dafuq. She's in Cyprus right now. How the hell is she supposed to come over here?

I don't think that was 100% serious. Come on man.

Judging from the PMs she sent you, he apparently believed that I was actually my sister, and that I was acting that I was someone else.

Right. There was that too.

[estebanus]

BansheeOwnage wrote...

estebanus wrote...

spotlessvoid wrote...

IT is on the front page, usually top 5, of the bsn. Everyone on the bsn knows this thread

Yes, and it's the same group of people that have been here since the beginning that havekept the thread alive up until now.Compared to many other threads, there are a lot less active people in here, however the people who are active are really active.

Actually, this thread is fairly dynamic. There are few people here that were at the beginning. And there are many lurkers. Who knows how long they've been here?

I suppose so.

[BatmanTurian]

smokingotter1 wrote...

plfranke wrote...

IT support exists outside this thread but let's not go crazy thinking that it's very high. I'd say there's more support for the literal endings than there is for IT outside this thread. However, if people took time to evaluate all the evidence with an open mind I believe they'd be more supportive of the idea. It seems like a lot of people pick out the most unconvincing and ambiguous evidence of IT as representatives of the theory as a whole. For instance some people will point to the evidence like the dream foilage, but will completely ignore the similarities between the scene where we speak with Leviathan and the conversation with starchild. It's kind of wierd how they seem so intent on not believing IT to the pont of manipulating the evidence to make it seem like conspiracy theorist logic.

I think IT is real and intended and people most likely to see it and care about it are the same people who are most likely to purchase DLC and play MP. Casuals have moved on to their Halo 5 and AC4s and their Diablo 8s already. The vast majority may be litereralists, but are they were never the target audience so no harm no foul.

+1

[masster blaster]

WTF Estebauns why are you in a pissed off mood? Honest go to bed or take a break. I know school can be difificult since your in college and i am in high school so take a chill pill. Were all friends on here right. And to be honest most of us would:kt have gotten to know eachother if byne didn't create this thread, or the ME3 endings we got.

To be honest I am glad that it ended this way because I would have never gotten to know any of you. My parents say that me taking to other people on line is bad, but I talk about you guys. They think that all of you are good, and know your mean well even if you all get anrgy sometimes.

Furthermore I know all of use what IT to become true because we spent not only 8 months trying to prove IT/ speculate, but we gotten to know eachother.

Myabe Bioware wanted us to come together, and share eachothers thoughts on the ends, and for a bond of friendship, just like our Shepard's. Each of us is diffrent which is good. If we were all the same, then this world would be perfect.

So I will say this. What we have here is something that people can not understand. Something that can not be broken or Destroy. The next few months will either prove IT or not. But take heart look around you, your not in this fight alone.

Also do you ever wonder why we are here? Estebauns and Meg/ everyone?

[BansheeOwnage]

spotlessvoid wrote...

Why does someone who thinks IT is not what Bioware intended, that it's bad writing, spend so much time exclusively in this thread spewing negativity, nitpicking everything, contributing nothing, and being rude to all but a few select people?

Well...




Edit: Hmm. Just noticed that an iteration of Sovereign's theme (turned into the general reaper theme) plays in the background of the intro, along with the standard ME1 spectre theme. Nice touches. They know what they're doing when it comes to music. So why have the depressing music at the end, and none in London?

Modifié par BansheeOwnage, 03 novembre 2012 - 01:37 .

[BatmanTurian]

SwobyJ wrote...

BatmanTurian wrote...

CmdrShep80 wrote...

demersel wrote...

What really surprises me - we don't get here as much trolls as we used to.... Maybe it does really start to sink in?

Maybe...we're indoctrinating them. After all it is an insidious means of changing someone's way of thinking and if we can indoctrinate their leaders entire nations will fall overnight. Javik can tell you more what happened to his culture. 

Speaking of Javik. Anyone know why we are so trusting of a single Prothean when we know next to nothing about their culture or their species?  After all isn't it strange that Liara looks at Javik with suspicious awe and is getting suggestions from him that changes her way of thinking?

Javik is the least likely person to be indoctrinated.

I think what he's wondering about is if the Prothians have their own way of 'convincing' other organics to listen to it (Leviathans, Rachni, Thorian, Asari, ... human?).

One of my theories is that organics in the ME universe inevitably learn some form (minor or major) of Dominate

That's an interesting theory. Certainly Shepard seems to have a benevolent form of it without negative side effects.

[Davik Kang]

estebanus wrote...
Wasn't that during the time where there were more indoctrinationists on the BSN than literalists? I haven't seen many articles mentioning the IT in them since then.

As always, you fail to grasp the obvious. IT isn't just a thread or the people behind it. IT is an idea; that idea is not so easily destroyed.

BatmanTurian wrote...
I believe that's called confirmation bias and denial?

Well that is rife on BSN and the Internet and in life in general (and to be fair it does pop up in this thread from time to time too...)

[plfranke]

SwobyJ wrote...

spotlessvoid wrote...

estebanus wrote...

demersel wrote...

What really surprises me - we don't get here as much trolls as we used to.... Maybe it does really start to sink in?

More like people don't see the need to do so anymore, or just don't care enough for the effort. The absence of people going against the theory (not trolls, because most of them aren't) probably just means that the IT is becoming less and less known.

How many shots at IT are you going to take?

While I agree with you there (lol), I also agree with estabanus's words. IT and Mass Effect are not major gaming things anymore.

If they announce an expansion or new game, and info on it streams in, then things can get active again.

I disagree with his words completely. How can something become less and less known? Are you saying people are forgetting about IT? Or are you saying new people are coming to see me3's ending but are unaware of IT. It's hard to know about me3 and not know about IT.