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[BatmanTurian]

plfranke wrote...

lol guys you can't say "Why is no one coming to troll the IT thread anymore!?" Then a literalist comes in here and you guys are like "Well why don't you just leave then."

I'm getting to the point where I just don't care now either way, because when they do come in here their arguments are weak and full of errors, possibly outdated, and just your basic unintellectual tripe except for the rare few who are respectful. Most of them just sh*t in the thread and run though, never sticking around to even back up their assertions with any semblance of logic.

[smokingotter1]

@banshee quick I need a truck full of butter sauce and a hammer stat!

Everyone else just calm done. Don't push the panic button yet. If Omega adds to the ending it will prove that my modular theory is correct and I'm a genious and we may get our answer to IT.

Modifié par smokingotter1, 03 novembre 2012 - 01:47 .

[demersel]

MegumiAzusa wrote...

BatmanTurian wrote...

I don't care that you disagree because you're wrong. High EMS Destroy is the ending where Shepard wakes up from Starbabby's dream-state formed during the process of indoctrination while Shepard is unconcious. Therefore, anything that supports Destroy is valid for IT. Period. The fact that we have to argue about this astounds me.

This is utter BS
Remember Anderson? "There is always another way" one of the quotes that is predominantly used for IT, now I use it as "Destroy? There is always another way." Shep even says as much when she declines it "There has to be another way."
Just saying "destroy is good bumbum" doesn't make any stance valid for IT. It only highlights the persons stance towards that end.

Why should there be another way, that killing all the reapers? I mean if we consider it from a pure intent point of view (which is actually what the IT says the ending is all about)? 

[BansheeOwnage]

MegumiAzusa wrote...

BatmanTurian wrote...

I don't care that you disagree because you're wrong. High EMS Destroy is the ending where Shepard wakes up from Starbabby's dream-state formed during the process of indoctrination while Shepard is unconcious. Therefore, anything that supports Destroy is valid for IT. Period. The fact that we have to argue about this astounds me.

This is utter BS
Remember Anderson? "There is always another way" one of the quotes that is predominantly used for IT, now I use it as "Destroy? There is always another way." Shep even says as much when she declines it "There has to be another way."
Just saying "destroy is good bumbum" doesn't make any stance valid for IT. It only highlights the persons stance towards that end.

You do realize that Shepard says that during the indoc attempt right?

Besides, Shepard is referring to another way to kill them.

Modifié par BansheeOwnage, 03 novembre 2012 - 01:49 .

[estebanus]

BansheeOwnage wrote...

smokingotter1 wrote...

plfranke wrote...

Yeah he is pretty intolerable lately. Estebanus why don't you turn in to your sister again? You were slightly more pleasant that way.

Or you can turn into an otter. Join the otters and you will be spared, join us and we can find a place for you.
Edit: liking seafood helps with the transition.

Helps with siding with the reapers? Most definitely, it helps.

Mmm...

...Seafood.

Quick! Where's my harpoon?!

[BatmanTurian]

MegumiAzusa wrote...

BatmanTurian wrote...

I don't care that you disagree because you're wrong. High EMS Destroy is the ending where Shepard wakes up from Starbabby's dream-state formed during the process of indoctrination while Shepard is unconcious. Therefore, anything that supports Destroy is valid for IT. Period. The fact that we have to argue about this astounds me.

This is utter BS
Remember Anderson? "There is always another way" one of the quotes that is predominantly used for IT, now I use it as "Destroy? There is always another way." Shep even says as much when she declines it "There has to be another way."
Just saying "destroy is good bumbum" doesn't make any stance valid for IT. It only highlights the persons stance towards that end.

Whatever, Megumi. You know it supports it. Therefore whatever supports destroy supports IT since only High EMS Destroy is the Breath scene. Unless  puzzle theory + successful refuse theory pan out, this is the logically best ending and the one that awakens Shepard from whatever psychedelic shrooms Harbinger is shoving in his/her face.

[BansheeOwnage]

plfranke wrote...

lol guys you can't say "Why is no one coming to troll the IT thread anymore!?" Then a literalist comes in here and you guys are like "Well why don't you just leave then."

We are many voices speaking at once. That's bound to happen.

[demersel]

SwobyJ, you should also really keep your eyes open for the "Only Glyph actively achknowledges your presense, besides Traynor, who does it only when she has to inform you about messages or a new mission".

[BansheeOwnage]

MegumiAzusa wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

The thing is, it doesn't matter anyway, because destroy is the only non-indoctrinated choice before the end anyway. Therefore, supporting destroy supports IT. This particular topic has nothing to do with any hallucination.

But you should both probably disengage before someone dies.

You are talking in absolutes here while you cannot know if it's true or not.

What do you mean?

[smokingotter1]

estebanus wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

smokingotter1 wrote...

plfranke wrote...

Yeah he is pretty intolerable lately. Estebanus why don't you turn in to your sister again? You were slightly more pleasant that way.

Or you can turn into an otter. Join the otters and you will be spared, join us and we can find a place for you.
Edit: liking seafood helps with the transition.

Helps with siding with the reapers? Most definitely, it helps.

Mmm...

...Seafood.

Quick! Where's my harpoon?!

Leviathan: "Your mind belongs to m- wtf?!" (suddenly an army of sea otters overwhelm Leviathan, next is a cutscene with Shepard and his squad having a Lobster bake with a bunch of sea otters, screen goes to black with a message)

buy moar DLC and try the new N7 Special at Red Lobster
The end.

[BatmanTurian]

smokingotter1 wrote...

@banshee quick I need a truck full of butter sauce and a hammer stat!

Everyone else just calm done. Don't push the panic button yet. If Omega adds to the ending it will prove that my modular theory is correct and I'm a genious and we may get our answer to IT.

modular theory is puzzle theory... kinda

[demersel]

CmdrShep80 wrote...

 Here's something a bit fun. Do a little Role play. Watch this from start till Vendetta pops up using the following analogy:

Shepard=Anderson
Javik=TIM
Liara=Shepard

vid= Javik on Thessia

notice any similarities?  Jarvik advocating for uplifting the Asari, Shepard refocusing on the mission, and Liara struggling with her beliefs. 

Also after vendetta pops up with Javik in the squad. Why doesn't vendetta recognize Javik?  Why doesn't Javik already know what Vendetta is explaining?  The whole Vendetta with Javik present seems very inconsistent and has too many questions unless you go with a different squad member who really doesn't know. 

Maybe that is because either Javik or Vendetta is not what we think it is? 
Bringing Javik on the mission gives us a solid evedence - Vendetta reacts to Shepard, but not because he has prothean cypher. 
And seeing that we hear a reaper horn, right before shepard says that he senses the beacon - i'd go with Vendetta not being what we think it is rather than with pointing fingers at Javik. 

[masster blaster]

masster blaster wrote...

WTF Estebauns why are you in a pissed off mood? Honest go to bed or take a break. I know school can be difificult since your in college and i am in high school so take a chill pill. Were all friends on here right. And to be honest most of us would:kt have gotten to know eachother if byne didn't create this thread, or the ME3 endings we got.

To be honest I am glad that it ended this way because I would have never gotten to know any of you. My parents say that me taking to other people on line is bad, but I talk about you guys. They think that all of you are good, and know your mean well even if you all get anrgy sometimes.

Furthermore I know all of use what IT to become true because we spent not only 8 months trying to prove IT/ speculate, but we gotten to know eachother.

Myabe Bioware wanted us to come together, and share eachothers thoughts on the ends, and for a bond of friendship, just like our Shepard's. Each of us is diffrent which is good. If we were all the same, then this world would be perfect.

So I will say this. What we have here is something that people can not understand. Something that can not be broken or Destroy. The next few months will either prove IT or not. But take heart look around you, your not in this fight alone.

Also do you ever wonder why we are here? Estebauns and Meg/ everyone?

[smokingotter1]

BatmanTurian wrote...

smokingotter1 wrote...

@banshee quick I need a truck full of butter sauce and a hammer stat!

Everyone else just calm done. Don't push the panic button yet. If Omega adds to the ending it will prove that my modular theory is correct and I'm a genious and we may get our answer to IT.

modular theory is puzzle theory... kinda

Yep, that's my take on it, Omega is Act 2:

[CmdrShep80]

SwobyJ wrote...

BatmanTurian wrote...

SwobyJ wrote...

BatmanTurian wrote...

CmdrShep80 wrote...

demersel wrote...

What really surprises me - we don't get here as much trolls as we used to.... Maybe it does really start to sink in?

Maybe...we're indoctrinating them. After all it is an insidious means of changing someone's way of thinking and if we can indoctrinate their leaders entire nations will fall overnight. Javik can tell you more what happened to his culture. 

Speaking of Javik. Anyone know why we are so trusting of a single Prothean when we know next to nothing about their culture or their species?  After all isn't it strange that Liara looks at Javik with suspicious awe and is getting suggestions from him that changes her way of thinking?

Javik is the least likely person to be indoctrinated.

I think what he's wondering about is if the Prothians have their own way of 'convincing' other organics to listen to it (Leviathans, Rachni, Thorian, Asari, ... human?).

One of my theories is that organics in the ME universe inevitably learn some form (minor or major) of Dominate 

That's an interesting theory. Certainly Shepard seems to have a benevolent form of it without negative side effects.

Oh he totally would. Just as the geth/EDI are synthetics done 'right', by the end of a (peace between Quarians and geth) ME3 playthrough.

I really do think there's another layer to the entire story, and ME3's 'war/invasion' story had to get out of the way, for the rest to flourish.

And I'm leaning towards there being a 'separate' expansion to Mass Effect, possibly to be released next year. It would be in the ME3 world, sure, but post-ending (ahem, 'expansion' =/= 'DLC') and more about the secrets of the galaxy/its beings + true victory.

Or whatever. I'm just guessing when it comes to that.

I'm saying both. One that Protheans may have skills we're not fully aware of. Remember when Javik came on board he was able to "sense" the ME2 squad's presence so accurately even though the ship's literally been reconstructed from the ground up.  How did he do this?  
Also I'm saying that Protheans are not immune from becoming indoctrinated. We don't really know if we woke an indoctrinated Prothean or woke a non-indoctrinated Prothean. It's kind of like the chicken and the egg. Which came first when we woke Javik?  A Seren/TIM Javik?  Or a ME1 Shepard Javik. We can't say for sure.
 He does seem to end up in weird places on the ship. Like when you find him in Engineering unexpectedly. Why do we trust him so to give a species we never met full reign of the ship?

[BansheeOwnage]

smokingotter1 wrote...

estebanus wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

smokingotter1 wrote...

plfranke wrote...

Yeah he is pretty intolerable lately. Estebanus why don't you turn in to your sister again? You were slightly more pleasant that way.

Or you can turn into an otter. Join the otters and you will be spared, join us and we can find a place for you.
Edit: liking seafood helps with the transition.

Helps with siding with the reapers? Most definitely, it helps.

Mmm...

...Seafood.

Quick! Where's my harpoon?!

Leviathan: "Your mind belongs to m- wtf?!" (suddenly an army of sea otters overwhelm Leviathan, next is a cutscene with Shepard and his squad having a Lobster bake with a bunch of sea otters, screen goes to black with a message)

buy moar DLC and try the new N7 Special at Red Lobster
The end.

Still a better ending...

Nice mod theory pic.

Modifié par BansheeOwnage, 03 novembre 2012 - 01:56 .

[masster blaster]

Otter the new dlc for ME3. Shepard's untold story.
Or The legend of Shepard.

[AresKeith]

Quick question, after Shepard wakes up would it continue from there or continue into ME4?

[BansheeOwnage]

AresKeith wrote...

Quick question, after Shepard wakes up would it continue from there or continue into ME4?

Well, we have no idea. DLC would make more sense I think.

[demersel]

BatmanTurian wrote...


Whatever, Megumi. You know it supports it. Therefore whatever supports destroy supports IT since only High EMS Destroy is the Breath scene. Unless  puzzle theory + successful refuse theory pan out, this is the logically best ending and the one that awakens Shepard from whatever psychedelic shrooms Harbinger is shoving in his/her face.

There is another thing to consider. 
If we go with the concept that there is right and wrong choice at the end - then Refuse can't be it.  - the game was out for three moths before the EC came out. Refuse being the right choice would make the initial game poinless - since there was no such option. - so all the people who finished the game before that - even if they did get the indoctrination part would have no option of breaking it. 
And face it Destroy IS the right choice. 

[estebanus]

BansheeOwnage wrote...

AresKeith wrote...

Quick question, after Shepard wakes up would it continue from there or continue into ME4?

Well, we have no idea. DLC would make more sense I think.

Considering BioWare even said ME4 wouldn't contain Shepard, I'd say you're right.

[BatmanTurian]

CmdrShep80 wrote...

SwobyJ wrote...

BatmanTurian wrote...

SwobyJ wrote...

BatmanTurian wrote...

CmdrShep80 wrote...

demersel wrote...

What really surprises me - we don't get here as much trolls as we used to.... Maybe it does really start to sink in?

Maybe...we're indoctrinating them. After all it is an insidious means of changing someone's way of thinking and if we can indoctrinate their leaders entire nations will fall overnight. Javik can tell you more what happened to his culture. 

Speaking of Javik. Anyone know why we are so trusting of a single Prothean when we know next to nothing about their culture or their species?  After all isn't it strange that Liara looks at Javik with suspicious awe and is getting suggestions from him that changes her way of thinking?

Javik is the least likely person to be indoctrinated.

I think what he's wondering about is if the Prothians have their own way of 'convincing' other organics to listen to it (Leviathans, Rachni, Thorian, Asari, ... human?).

One of my theories is that organics in the ME universe inevitably learn some form (minor or major) of Dominate 

That's an interesting theory. Certainly Shepard seems to have a benevolent form of it without negative side effects.

Oh he totally would. Just as the geth/EDI are synthetics done 'right', by the end of a (peace between Quarians and geth) ME3 playthrough.

I really do think there's another layer to the entire story, and ME3's 'war/invasion' story had to get out of the way, for the rest to flourish.

And I'm leaning towards there being a 'separate' expansion to Mass Effect, possibly to be released next year. It would be in the ME3 world, sure, but post-ending (ahem, 'expansion' =/= 'DLC') and more about the secrets of the galaxy/its beings + true victory.

Or whatever. I'm just guessing when it comes to that.

I'm saying both. One that Protheans may have skills we're not fully aware of. Remember when Javik came on board he was able to "sense" the ME2 squad's presence so accurately even though the ship's literally been reconstructed from the ground up.  How did he do this?  
Also I'm saying that Protheans are not immune from becoming indoctrinated. We don't really know if we woke an indoctrinated Prothean or woke a non-indoctrinated Prothean. It's kind of like the chicken and the egg. Which came first when we woke Javik?  A Seren/TIM Javik?  Or a ME1 Shepard Javik. We can't say for sure.
 He does seem to end up in weird places on the ship. Like when you find him in Engineering unexpectedly. Why do we trust him so to give a species we never met full reign of the ship?

Because he's cool and the enemy of my enemy is my friend unless he decides to stab me in the back with an incompetent ninja that steals cereal and pisses in a flower pots.

[CmdrShep80]

Here's an out of game thought. Why did BioWare want us to experience From Ashes early? What was the message we're supposed to gain by having Javik in our squad 24/7? We could be missing something huge. I had a hard time using him because he kept dying on me in missions where others would live longer.

[BatmanTurian]

AresKeith wrote...

Quick question, after Shepard wakes up would it continue from there or continue into ME4?

Epilogue and then ME4 maybe.