BansheeOwnage wrote...
Well, we have no idea. DLC would make more sense I think.AresKeith wrote...
Quick question, after Shepard wakes up would it continue from there or continue into ME4?
CmdrShep80 wrote...
Here's an out of game thought. Why did BioWare want us to experience From Ashes early? What was the message we're supposed to gain by having Javik in our squad 24/7? We could be missing something huge. I had a hard time using him because he kept dying on me in missions where others would live longer.
Modifié par BatmanTurian, 03 novembre 2012 - 02:02 .
Modifié par CmdrShep80, 03 novembre 2012 - 02:51 .
CmdrShep80 wrote...
@Batman. Lol. I'm thinking Javik would kill the ninja before he even stepped foot on the Normandy for being too weak and not fit toward natural selection of the fittest will succeed
BansheeOwnage wrote...
See you later people!
BatmanTurian wrote...
CmdrShep80 wrote...
Here's an out of game thought. Why did BioWare want us to experience From Ashes early? What was the message we're supposed to gain by having Javik in our squad 24/7? We could be missing something huge. I had a hard time using him because he kept dying on me in missions where others would live longer.
The message is to destroy the Reapers. He's the voice of an entire race that was harvested and enslaved. Also, they tried to control lesser races and used rigid tactics that the Reapers could predict. This isn't rocket science.
masster blaster wrote...
Otter the new dlc for ME3. Shepard's untold story.
Or The legend of Shepard.
CmdrShep80 wrote...
i know it's not but the literalists would say the same thing so what's the hidden meaning about Javik. It can't be that simple. He's a character with a lot of depth
You've seen the stills I uploaded from the visions you get from Javik? (these 1 frame things) there some quite interesting bits.CmdrShep80 wrote...
BatmanTurian wrote...
CmdrShep80 wrote...
demersel wrote...
What really surprises me - we don't get here as much trolls as we used to.... Maybe it does really start to sink in?
Maybe...we're indoctrinating them. After all it is an insidious means of changing someone's way of thinking and if we can indoctrinate their leaders entire nations will fall overnight. Javik can tell you more what happened to his culture.
Speaking of Javik. Anyone know why we are so trusting of a single Prothean when we know next to nothing about their culture or their species? After all isn't it strange that Liara looks at Javik with suspicious awe and is getting suggestions from him that changes her way of thinking?
Javik is the least likely person to be indoctrinated.
hate to say it but how do you know? We fought most of his race in ME 2. He was on a ship filled with indoctrinated people. And the big hint. What if the preview of him before he goes into stasis was not real but in part a hallucination? For all we know he walked into stasis already as indoctrinated as Shepard is (orzo we all are claiming that is)
Modifié par MegumiAzusa, 03 novembre 2012 - 02:09 .
Who is this someone you speak of?spotlessvoid wrote...
Why does someone who thinks IT is not what Bioware intended, that it's bad writing, spend so much time exclusively in this thread spewing negativity, nitpicking everything, contributing nothing, and being rude to all but a few select people?
Modifié par RaenImrahl, 03 novembre 2012 - 02:24 .
Ah yes, it's not recognizing him but says stuff to him like "you are Prothean" and "your mission is known to me" or something like that. I'm really convinced you did your homework on what you just said.CmdrShep80 wrote...
Why doesn't vendetta recognize Javik?
MegumiAzusa wrote...
Ah yes, it's not recognizing him but says stuff to him like "you are Prothean" and "your mission is known to me" or something like that. I'm really convinced you did your homework on what you just said.CmdrShep80 wrote...
Why doesn't vendetta recognize Javik?
Guest_magnetite_*
RaenImrahl wrote...
I've banned @estebanus for five days for a post in this thread suggesting that another user kill themselves. I am surprised how much controversy still surrounds IT, but that's fine... so long as we remain civil in our discourse. Suggesting that someone shoot themselves is not civil discourse.
Modifié par Argolas, 03 novembre 2012 - 02:31 .
magnetite wrote...
RaenImrahl wrote...
I've banned @estebanus for five days for a post in this thread suggesting that another user kill themselves. I am surprised how much controversy still surrounds IT, but that's fine... so long as we remain civil in our discourse. Suggesting that someone shoot themselves is not civil discourse.
Some places (eg. Blizzard) will actually report people to the authorities for stuff like that. Not sure if Bioware does that or not.
Yes, but my point is standing that you cannot just go and add random quotes. You need context, you need intent. And the intent for none of these quotes is "in case you are getting indoctrinated, I remind you, you have to destroy the reapers, just in case there could be a try, maybe close to the finish line, but yeah, destroy them" This intent is just not there. It's random blurp that they want them destroyed and nothing else. As people here themselves said they cannot say if they getting indoctrinated or not you cannot say that the other choices are false. Maybe Control is a perfectly valid choice, not a good one, but destroy is certainly neither. There is just no bit of supporting indoctrination here but supporting destroy as a choice.BansheeOwnage wrote...
You do realize that Shepard says that during the indoc attempt right?MegumiAzusa wrote...
This is utter BSBatmanTurian wrote...
I don't care that you disagree because you're wrong. High EMS Destroy is the ending where Shepard wakes up from Starbabby's dream-state formed during the process of indoctrination while Shepard is unconcious. Therefore, anything that supports Destroy is valid for IT. Period. The fact that we have to argue about this astounds me.
Remember Anderson? "There is always another way" one of the quotes that is predominantly used for IT, now I use it as "Destroy? There is always another way." Shep even says as much when she declines it "There has to be another way."
Just saying "destroy is good bumbum" doesn't make any stance valid for IT. It only highlights the persons stance towards that end.
Besides, Shepard is referring to another way to kill them.
That one is so easy to counter: if literal Shep cannot awake because he dissolves in both Control and Synthesis. Hence no indoctrination hence your point is invalid.BatmanTurian wrote...
You know it supports it. Therefore whatever supports destroy supports IT since only High EMS Destroy is the Breath scene.
Modifié par MaximizedAction, 03 novembre 2012 - 02:42 .
MegumiAzusa wrote...
That one is so easy to counter: if literal Shep cannot awake because he dissolves in both Control and Synthesis. Hence no indoctrination hence your point is invalid.BatmanTurian wrote...
You know it supports it. Therefore whatever supports destroy supports IT since only High EMS Destroy is the Breath scene.
Modifié par ZerebusPrime, 03 novembre 2012 - 02:45 .
I'm surprised of many posts here and the people who made then and their double standards.MaximizedAction wrote...
To be honest, I was a bit surprised that no one really wondered about that post of his. I was disappoint in him...and that it tends to get rough in here these past days.
Are some people losing their groove?
RaenImrahl wrote...
I've banned @estebanus for five days for a post in this thread...*snips the reason* I am surprised how much controversy still surrounds IT, but that's fine... so long as we remain civil in our discourse. *Snips the reason again*
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