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[Hrothdane]

Rifneno wrote...

Hrothdane wrote...

While Dissidia screws up many characters' personalities, it makes Golbez a million times more interesting and awesome.

A lot of the other earlier characters, the ones hat lacked much personality, actually end up coming ahead.

FFX will always have a special place in my heart, no matter what.

Yuna's response to Starbinger.

Golbez got a lot more interesting in The After Years, or so I've heard. Haven't played it myself as it's on a Nintendo system.

I liked her speech there. Before clicking the link, I thought it would be the one she gives Yunalesca.

I haven't played The After Years either. I had only just recently beated FFIV for the DS when I found out about FFIV coming for the PSP with TAY added on.

Golbez is my main in Dissidia for many reasons, and if I may be so bold, I'm quite good with him. I beat the final Feral Chaos fight in Duodecim's Story Mode without using any of the other characters in my party.

[spotlessvoid]

Rifneno wrote...

spotlessvoid wrote...

Don't listen to Rifneno. He'll never get to see the Reaper's blessings like we will

I beat indoctrination and all I got was this stupid t-shirt breath scene.

It's funny cause it's sad

[Rifneno]

SwobyJ wrote...

Nah I don't love the grinding, but if the story is bad... I guess you have the grind and character advancement/etc.

The atmosphere of XII is also nice, but it looks like they still needed even another 1-2 years of development to have it where it was likely originally supposed to be, quality and story wise..

And changing the main character from Basch to Vaas was ridiculously stupid, and so was cutting out any and all story that was supposed to involve Penelo - as such, 1-2/6 of the main characters are total wastes, and 1-2 of them are just 'meh' (like Fran).

Vaan and Penelo have no reason to exist. As far as I'm concerned the main character of XII was Ashe. Really rather they have put her in Dissidia instead of Lightning. Can't stand Lightning. FemSquall is still Squall, and Squall is still so terrible I find myself wishing the villains win just so I can see them die horribly.

Speaking of grinding, did you know some sick freaks actually figured out the RNG behind FFXII? It was insane. For instance you go to that 1 in 1000 zodiac spear chest in the Henne Mines and punch yourself a few times. Then enter the damage (or misses if applicable) and it'll tell you how many times you cast, say, cure until the RNG has moved to that 1 in 1000 spot so you can open the chest and get the zodiac spear every damn time. And I thought we did some crazy stuff for IT... those guys must have rainman shackled up in a basement somewhere.

[Hrothdane]

SwobyJ wrote...

The atmosphere of XII is also nice, but it looks like they still needed even another 1-2 years of development to have it where it was likely originally supposed to be, quality and story wise..

And changing the main character from Basch to Vaas was ridiculously stupid, and so was cutting out any and all story that was supposed to involve Penelo - as such, 1-2/6 of the main characters are total wastes, and 1-2 of them are just 'meh' (like Fran).

FF12 was good, but flawed. The combat was fresh and quite challenging, but I have some issues with the story and characters. My opinion on those mirrors yours.

[Big_Boss9]

Rifneno wrote...

ZerebusPrime wrote...

I gave up on Japanese RPG's some time ago *cough*Xenosaga2*cough*. Apparently it takes a Canadian company to tell a decent story.

I love Xenogears, Xenosaga 1, and Xenosaga 3.  I cannot finish XS2.  It bores me to tears and the battle system is worse than FFVIII, if such a thing is possible.  That game was an abomination.  Judging all jRPGs by that one is like judging western games by Daikatana.

Agreed. PAINFUL battle system in XS2. When recommending the series to a friend, I suggested that he simply skip playing 2 and watch the plot relevant cutscenes on Youtube. Xenogears will always hold a special place in my heart, though.

[Rifneno]

SwobyJ wrote...

Remember Final Fantasy X (and FF in general, oftentimes) is very... anti-organized Christianity (/Christian-type indoctrination) in its symbolism. I don't mean to offend here even - its just what they're doing. Now, its time for us to choose what we will do with our Shepards.

Well it's not like Evil Jesus was the final boss of Tactics or anything.

Oh, right. Nevermind.

You know what the best part of Tactics was? Aeris was the only one who survives.

Big_Boss9 wrote...

Agreed. PAINFUL battle system in XS2. When recommending the series to a friend, I suggested that he simply skip playing 2 and watch the plot relevant cutscenes on Youtube. Xenogears will always hold a special place in my heart, though.

Agreed. Xenogears was a masterpiece. ... Well, the first disc anyway. The second disc was nothing but hour long cutscenes. "How much of this game is done?" "We're halfway through--" "Release now." "But the second disc has almost nothing to it yet. We'd have to have a black background where we explain rather than show a very complex story and--" "NOW! NOW! RELEASE NOW!" Thanks, Squaresoft executives!

[Hrothdane]

@Swoby

I love that scene.

Another "inescapable" cycle perpetuated out of misguided pessimism by the villains.

Holy crap. I just realized something.

Sin is a magic Reaper.

[Big_Boss9]

Rifneno wrote...

Agreed. Xenogears was a masterpiece. ... Well, the first disc anyway. The second disc was nothing but hour long cutscenes. "How much of this game is done?" "We're halfway through--" "Release now." "But the second disc has almost nothing to it yet. We'd have to have a black background where we explain rather than show a very complex story and--" "NOW! NOW! RELEASE NOW!" Thanks, Squaresoft executives!

Yes, I'm still salty about the "Fei and Elly rocking chair storytime" portion. What could have been ...
I also enjoyed the Phantasy Star series, although not to the same degree. 2 was my favorite, I liked the generational elements of 3, but admittedly, I never got around to 4.

Modifié par Big_Boss9, 04 novembre 2012 - 06:44 .

[BleedingUranium]

Hrothdane wrote...

@Swoby

I love that scene.

Another "inescapable" cycle perpetuated out of misguided pessimism by the villains.

Holy crap. I just realized something.

Sin is a magic Reaper.

Sounds like you're talking about literalists

Modifié par BleedingUranium, 04 novembre 2012 - 06:52 .

[Rifneno]

Hrothdane wrote...

@Swoby

I love that scene.

Another "inescapable" cycle perpetuated out of misguided pessimism by the villains.

Holy crap. I just realized something.

Sin is a magic Reaper.

Does that make Vegnagun the Crucible? ... Maybe we shouldn't fire it after all.

[Leonia]

Stop making me want to replay FFX you guys.

[Rifneno]

leonia42 wrote...

Stop making me want to replay FFX you guys.

Glad I'm not the only one trying to fight off that urge.

[Hrothdane]

Think about it though: Sin is a huge monstrosity that was created to "preserve" a dead civilization's memory. There is a cycle of it leaving and then returning, and it destroys all advanced technology that it can.

It even creates a dream world....

[Hrothdane]

@Swoby

Wow. I had never seen that, but it makes perfect sense in retrospect.

Good to know something good came out of that movie....

[Rifneno]

Hrothdane wrote...

Think about it though: Sin is a huge monstrosity that was created to "preserve" a dead civilization's memory. There is a cycle of it leaving and then returning, and it destroys all advanced technology that it can.

It even creates a dream world....

You're right, the parallels are startling. I've got another one for you too: they intentionally stifle civilizations' technological advancement. Reapers do it by providing them with Mass Effect technology. Reapers are very strong against mass accelerator cannon shots, but much less so against virtually every other type of attack. Yet thanks to them, everyone's outfitted with mass accelerator cannons. We rely on them for all our battlefield needs. Sin? He started a bull**** religion where technology is evil and a sin (no pun intended) so people don't advance. If they did, then by FFX's time they'd have probably managed to invent nuclear weapons and so intensely obliterated Sin that there there was nothing left that could even be called "remains".

I've only seen The Spirits Within once, when it first came out. I didn't really care for it, but I don't remember why. Or much of anything about it beyond thinking "how is this Final Fantasy again?"