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SwobyJ wrote...

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"I can only imagine what the Reapers are doing to the drell, or the hanar, or the vorcha. This could get a lot worse before it gets better." -Garrus

Hehehe.....


Huh, I wonder what a Reaper Vorcha looks like?  Ooo even a Reaper Varren?


Well he likely means husks.


I don't think so.  I can see the Vorcha being an extreme version of themselves.  A big burly thing (half the size of a brute but tall like a Banshee) with large sharpened teeth in a large jawed mouth screeching at you and long slashing claws. 


That's...exactly what I was talking about. Husks can mean any reaperized enemy.

I was only saying that Garrus was likely not talking about a Reaper Vorcha stompin around a planet.


Oh Posted Image


Honestly it just adds to my idea of a Mass Effect 4 involving fighting primarily Huskified forces and indoctrinated races/factions/populations. The geth will be either destroyed or allies. (or hey, yet ANOTHER story of 'omg Reapers hackedzors them!' sigh)


Ya I can see that because even if the Reapers survive or if we destroyed the Reapers there will still be indoctrinated forces that will eventually starve to death because their no longer in control.  In one scenario they will be all that's left of the Reapers, in the other, the Reapers would have abandoned them.

Though you know, it would make for a fun change in enemies.  ME 1 - the Reaper husks were slow and ungainly, ME-2, they seemed to be more mobile, and ME-3 they were very fast and speedy.  Now in ME-4 they can be chaotic and dangerous

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I would be with you about the geth except..

We now not only have a friendly geth (hi Legion RIP), but we just had a whole major arc where they're our allies. Otherwise, they die.

And same with genophage. They're our allies or... they're gonna die. (even if more slowly)

And both become multiplayer races too..

So I think they're just gonna be treated as allies now, and if they're dead, then the story just removes them from the equation. Remember that the geth survive at least 2/3 of the outcomes, and Krogan... I dunno, I think they have the genophage cured in at least half the outcomes?

And there might (in my imaginary ME4 land) be optional missions with them as enemies, sure, but probably not.

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plfranke wrote...

SwobyJ wrote...

CmdrShep80 wrote...

SwobyJ wrote...

CmdrShep80 wrote...

SwobyJ wrote...

CmdrShep80 wrote...

SwobyJ wrote...

"I can only imagine what the Reapers are doing to the drell, or the hanar, or the vorcha. This could get a lot worse before it gets better." -Garrus

Hehehe.....


Huh, I wonder what a Reaper Vorcha looks like?  Ooo even a Reaper Varren?


Well he likely means husks.


I don't think so.  I can see the Vorcha being an extreme version of themselves.  A big burly thing (half the size of a brute but tall like a Banshee) with large sharpened teeth in a large jawed mouth screeching at you and long slashing claws. 


That's...exactly what I was talking about. Husks can mean any reaperized enemy.

I was only saying that Garrus was likely not talking about a Reaper Vorcha stompin around a planet.


Oh Posted Image


Honestly it just adds to my idea of a Mass Effect 4 involving fighting primarily Huskified forces and indoctrinated races/factions/populations. The geth will be either destroyed or allies. (or hey, yet ANOTHER story of 'omg Reapers hackedzors them!' sigh)

Knowing Bioware we'll get something like:
Saved the Geth? Geth are now controlled by Reapers and used as ground forces
Killed the Geth? Reapers create artificial Geth that are used as ground forces

Cured the Genophage? Krogan are indoctrinated and used as ground forces
Sabotaged the cure? Reapers create artificial Krogan that are used as ground forces

This kind of variety is what makes our choices matter.


Darn makes me wish I had my save games to change my choices Posted Image

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ME-2 IFF mission husks - is it me or do these husks here seem to be trying to speak?

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I bet their faces would either be grossly distorted so we can't see what they look like or they would be completely faceless...something like the headless horsemen, maybe shooting stasis beams from their emptied but broken faceplate masks in one hand?  Maybe they can be a husk factory, where they're larger than life and slowly shrink to quarian size as they release all the husks hanging on to them?


During Mass Effect: Ascension, I think they mentioned that aside from the Quarians hands and feet, they looked very "human like", although it was impossible to tell with their helmet on. I even discovered how they go to the bathroom in the book, but that's not IT related.

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plfranke wrote...

SwobyJ wrote...

CmdrShep80 wrote...

SwobyJ wrote...

CmdrShep80 wrote...

SwobyJ wrote...

CmdrShep80 wrote...

SwobyJ wrote...

"I can only imagine what the Reapers are doing to the drell, or the hanar, or the vorcha. This could get a lot worse before it gets better." -Garrus

Hehehe.....


Huh, I wonder what a Reaper Vorcha looks like?  Ooo even a Reaper Varren?


Well he likely means husks.


I don't think so.  I can see the Vorcha being an extreme version of themselves.  A big burly thing (half the size of a brute but tall like a Banshee) with large sharpened teeth in a large jawed mouth screeching at you and long slashing claws. 


That's...exactly what I was talking about. Husks can mean any reaperized enemy.

I was only saying that Garrus was likely not talking about a Reaper Vorcha stompin around a planet.


Oh Posted Image


Honestly it just adds to my idea of a Mass Effect 4 involving fighting primarily Huskified forces and indoctrinated races/factions/populations. The geth will be either destroyed or allies. (or hey, yet ANOTHER story of 'omg Reapers hackedzors them!' sigh)

Knowing Bioware we'll get something like:
Saved the Geth? Geth are now controlled by Reapers and used as ground forces
Killed the Geth? Reapers create artificial Geth that are used as ground forces

Cured the Genophage? Krogan are indoctrinated and used as ground forces
Sabotaged the cure? Reapers create artificial Krogan that are used as ground forces

This kind of variety is what makes our choices matter.


To be fair, they actually admitted that they wanted to do something completely different to Grunt's mission if you'd killed the Queen, but didn't have time.

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BleedingUranium wrote...

plfranke wrote...

SwobyJ wrote...

CmdrShep80 wrote...

SwobyJ wrote...

CmdrShep80 wrote...

SwobyJ wrote...

CmdrShep80 wrote...

SwobyJ wrote...

"I can only imagine what the Reapers are doing to the drell, or the hanar, or the vorcha. This could get a lot worse before it gets better." -Garrus

Hehehe.....


Huh, I wonder what a Reaper Vorcha looks like?  Ooo even a Reaper Varren?


Well he likely means husks.


I don't think so.  I can see the Vorcha being an extreme version of themselves.  A big burly thing (half the size of a brute but tall like a Banshee) with large sharpened teeth in a large jawed mouth screeching at you and long slashing claws. 


That's...exactly what I was talking about. Husks can mean any reaperized enemy.

I was only saying that Garrus was likely not talking about a Reaper Vorcha stompin around a planet.


Oh Posted Image


Honestly it just adds to my idea of a Mass Effect 4 involving fighting primarily Huskified forces and indoctrinated races/factions/populations. The geth will be either destroyed or allies. (or hey, yet ANOTHER story of 'omg Reapers hackedzors them!' sigh)

Knowing Bioware we'll get something like:
Saved the Geth? Geth are now controlled by Reapers and used as ground forces
Killed the Geth? Reapers create artificial Geth that are used as ground forces

Cured the Genophage? Krogan are indoctrinated and used as ground forces
Sabotaged the cure? Reapers create artificial Krogan that are used as ground forces

This kind of variety is what makes our choices matter.


To be fair, they actually admitted that they wanted to do something completely different to Grunt's mission if you'd killed the Queen, but didn't have time.

I'm sure there were a lot of things they wanted to do differently but didn't have time, that doesn't make it any less disappointing, or unfair to the fans who payed full price for a rushed game.

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and so the clock goes from 1:59 to 1:00 Posted ImagePosted Image BioWare gives everyone an extra hour to finish the Halloween Challenge and Jackhammer!

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Don't you love free stuff, even if it's purely coincidential (or planned)?

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plfranke wrote...

BleedingUranium wrote...

plfranke wrote...

SwobyJ wrote...

CmdrShep80 wrote...

SwobyJ wrote...

CmdrShep80 wrote...

SwobyJ wrote...

CmdrShep80 wrote...

SwobyJ wrote...

"I can only imagine what the Reapers are doing to the drell, or the hanar, or the vorcha. This could get a lot worse before it gets better." -Garrus

Hehehe.....


Huh, I wonder what a Reaper Vorcha looks like?  Ooo even a Reaper Varren?


Well he likely means husks.


I don't think so.  I can see the Vorcha being an extreme version of themselves.  A big burly thing (half the size of a brute but tall like a Banshee) with large sharpened teeth in a large jawed mouth screeching at you and long slashing claws. 


That's...exactly what I was talking about. Husks can mean any reaperized enemy.

I was only saying that Garrus was likely not talking about a Reaper Vorcha stompin around a planet.


Oh Posted Image


Honestly it just adds to my idea of a Mass Effect 4 involving fighting primarily Huskified forces and indoctrinated races/factions/populations. The geth will be either destroyed or allies. (or hey, yet ANOTHER story of 'omg Reapers hackedzors them!' sigh)

Knowing Bioware we'll get something like:
Saved the Geth? Geth are now controlled by Reapers and used as ground forces
Killed the Geth? Reapers create artificial Geth that are used as ground forces

Cured the Genophage? Krogan are indoctrinated and used as ground forces
Sabotaged the cure? Reapers create artificial Krogan that are used as ground forces

This kind of variety is what makes our choices matter.


To be fair, they actually admitted that they wanted to do something completely different to Grunt's mission if you'd killed the Queen, but didn't have time.

I'm sure there were a lot of things they wanted to do differently but didn't have time, that doesn't make it any less disappointing, or unfair to the fans who payed full price for a rushed game.


Because I saved the Queen, I was pretty satisfied with the way Grunt came out of the cave, nearly dead but victorious

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plfranke wrote...

BleedingUranium wrote...

plfranke wrote...

SwobyJ wrote...

CmdrShep80 wrote...

SwobyJ wrote...

CmdrShep80 wrote...

SwobyJ wrote...

CmdrShep80 wrote...

SwobyJ wrote...

"I can only imagine what the Reapers are doing to the drell, or the hanar, or the vorcha. This could get a lot worse before it gets better." -Garrus

Hehehe.....


Huh, I wonder what a Reaper Vorcha looks like?  Ooo even a Reaper Varren?


Well he likely means husks.


I don't think so.  I can see the Vorcha being an extreme version of themselves.  A big burly thing (half the size of a brute but tall like a Banshee) with large sharpened teeth in a large jawed mouth screeching at you and long slashing claws. 


That's...exactly what I was talking about. Husks can mean any reaperized enemy.

I was only saying that Garrus was likely not talking about a Reaper Vorcha stompin around a planet.


Oh Posted Image


Honestly it just adds to my idea of a Mass Effect 4 involving fighting primarily Huskified forces and indoctrinated races/factions/populations. The geth will be either destroyed or allies. (or hey, yet ANOTHER story of 'omg Reapers hackedzors them!' sigh)

Knowing Bioware we'll get something like:
Saved the Geth? Geth are now controlled by Reapers and used as ground forces
Killed the Geth? Reapers create artificial Geth that are used as ground forces

Cured the Genophage? Krogan are indoctrinated and used as ground forces
Sabotaged the cure? Reapers create artificial Krogan that are used as ground forces

This kind of variety is what makes our choices matter.


To be fair, they actually admitted that they wanted to do something completely different to Grunt's mission if you'd killed the Queen, but didn't have time.

I'm sure there were a lot of things they wanted to do differently but didn't have time, that doesn't make it any less disappointing, or unfair to the fans who payed full price for a rushed game.


I can't think of anything else that was rushed.

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Yeah I still remember the first time I played the game and he walked out. I was so excited.

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btw, can anyone tell me what the "special intel" you get by having your Prejek Paddle Fish imported from ME2, survive ME3, and ME3 new game plus? It;s supposed to be found in Liara's quarters.

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@Bleeding
Romance with Jack/Thane/Jacob
Priority Earth
Omega and Leviathan not being on disk
Intro of the game
All side missions

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Yeah I still remember the first time I played the game and he walked out. I was so excited.


I was actually freaked out that I killed him because the choice was kill the queen, save the battalion, save the queen cause the battalion tons of harm.

I think I said, Nooooooooo.... ..... .... YA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!.....NoooooooOOoo! (when he collapsed)

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then again, does anyone know why Michael Dorn didn't do a reprise as Wrex for ME3?

EDIT - I thought he was the perfect voice for Wrex

Modifié par CmdrShep80, 04 novembre 2012 - 09:19 .


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CmdrShep80 wrote...

btw, can anyone tell me what the "special intel" you get by having your Prejek Paddle Fish imported from ME2, survive ME3, and ME3 new game plus? It;s supposed to be found in Liara's quarters.

"If you import a save from Mass Effect 2 with a live Prejek Paddlefish into Mass Effect 3, keep the Paddlefish alive through an entire Mass Effect 3 playthrough and import the character again, a special Intel Bonus from Liara's Quarters on the Normandy is made immediately available. The Prejek Paddlefish Bonus gives you a 10% bonus to either Weapon or Power Damage."
From the wiki

Modifié par Gwyphon, 04 novembre 2012 - 09:23 .


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Gwyphon wrote...

CmdrShep80 wrote...

btw, can anyone tell me what the "special intel" you get by having your Prejek Paddle Fish imported from ME2, survive ME3, and ME3 new game plus? It;s supposed to be found in Liara's quarters.

"If you import a save from Mass Effect 2 with a live Prejek Paddlefish into Mass Effect 3, keep the Paddlefish alive through an entire Mass Effect 3 playthrough and import the character again, a special Intel Bonus from Liara's Quarters on the Normandy is made immediately available. The Prejek Paddlefish Bonus gives you a 10% bonus to either Weapon or Power Damage."
From the wiki


Thanks!

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You know, I'm betting we're going to have the following events before Omega:

N7 Event which may last till the weekend for all we know
Veterans Day event (maybe to give us something if we reached veteran's status on our game?
Thanksgiving event (protect the turkey I can just see them doing it!)
then finally Omega!

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plfranke wrote...

@Bleeding
Romance with Jack/Thane/Jacob
Priority Earth
Omega and Leviathan not being on disk
Intro of the game
All side missions


-Oh right, the ME2 romances were very lacking in content compared to the ME1/3 ones. That's actually my biggest, and only real complaint about ME3, it's just been a while since my first playthrough (Miranda).
-Not sure if rushed, or just intentionally creepy...
-Doesn't bother me at all.
-What's wrong with it? It's one of my favourite parts.
-What's wrong with them?

Modifié par BleedingUranium, 04 novembre 2012 - 09:38 .


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CmdrShep80 wrote...

then again, does anyone know why Michael Dorn didn't do a reprise as Wrex for ME3?

EDIT - I thought he was the perfect voice for Wrex



??? Steven Barr has played Wrex in all 3 ME games

Michael Dorn played Gatatog Uvenk in ME2.

Do all Krogans look the same..? :huh:

Modifié par Valsamon, 04 novembre 2012 - 09:31 .


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Really? I thought he was wrex? Omg!

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Home run MF wrote...

paxxton wrote...

In ME2 Shepard either allows Legion to join his crew or passes it to Cerberus for disassembly. How is it possible then that in ME3 (non-import playthrough) Legion is not only with the geth, but also a stranger to Shepard?


That is not Legion, it's a backup created before Legion meets Shepard.

No it's Legions recovered platform. You cannot simply make a backup of a Geth.


You sure?

"We are not Legion"

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Just finished on the past 4 weeks both Mass Effect 1 and 2 and started yesterday Mass Effect 3... This time I was looking from a IT believer point of view... And I must say ...it seems now, to me, quite obvious IT..

I mean it's so well laid out, after watching some youtube videos on it, everytime I see a reference, like the warning/danger signs everytime we get to see the kid.. Or the fact nobody else seems to notice him.. and comparing to the previous games that are still fresh in my mind those dreams about the weird kid, his eyes turning green on prothean info..don't fell right...

I never saw it this way and I believe I now start to understand why IT has so much support :)

Imo by what I've seen and felt, so far, from playing the trilogy in one take I have to start supporting IT

Edit: Can anyone please post the link to the IT sig most of you have? ;)

Modifié par Dark Delta 06, 04 novembre 2012 - 02:07 .


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Reapers. Nightmare factory. I missed that one.