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Well until the dlc comes out, then we have nothing to really speculate on, and Bioware/Chris has to realize that we are done speculating with the stuff they have already given us, sooooo we wait.

Edit: We also learned about the Leviathan for more than 5 weeks now, so please we have already speculated the Leviathan chat's, but not the content it's self.

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paxxton wrote...

RavenEyry wrote...

I was born in Germany and the UK at the same time. That beats everyone.

In the air then.

Close, in an RAF camp.

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Dwailing wrote...

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Do we have any particular information to go on besides "summer" when it comes to the Leviathan release date?


Well, besides the fact that it's most likely going to be released on a Tuesday, we really don't have anything to go on yet.


That's what I thought... but seeing so much discussion on it made me wonder for a minute.

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fr.twitter.com/GambleMike/status/231648298711269376 that was meee!!!11

this definately needs to be looked into further, i cant decide if he was avoiding the question or if what he was saying has some meaning to it. if anybody has any suggestions, ill tweet the reply to try and get an answer

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starlitegirlx wrote...

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I'm just going to say again that what priestly said here is very interesting when we know there's an inevitable Omega dlc coming out in the distant/not-so-distant future.

That said, we are working on some very cool downloadable story based single player content. In these DLCs there will certainly be elements that will effect the end of the game. As Mike Gamble already said, depending on what you do in Leviathan there will be new dialog with the Catalyst at the end of the game. These sorts of elements are definitely possible for future DLC as well.

 


Give what they said about the original crap ending, I'd have to call bull**** on this comment and then translate it to mean that there will be some added sentences that can be taken a multitude of ways but have not real effect on the end other than what you believe.
Or maybe we're not even talking end of game as in the catalyst element. could be before then. Who knows? Quite honestly, how can anyone here think of any BW statement as something other than a comment coming from a lying brat catalyst?
I can't. That's the only image I have of everything they say since the original ending was so far from how they promised unless they are that silly minded that they really do believe we had 16 different enough endings to justify what they promised. Nevermind adding in the screw you element of forced multiplayer or you end up with a crappier ending which is inexcusable.

As I said earlier, I imagine marketing and keeping players invested in the supposed final game of a trilogy is a lot different from that of a sequel. Thus what they're doing and planning here with upcoming sp dlc should not be surprising or doubtful. That we've already seen leaked lines from Leviathan goes toward confirming that. How much it really effects the ending aside from the dialogue remains to be seen, but that part alone is important and it would be a good idea to pay extra attention to that part.

That wasn't my point though. What if Priestly's comment here is hinting at Omega dlc being more than just taking omega back from adjutants and cerberus. I have some guesses as to how that particular dlc could affect the ending, and it doesn't involve showing the three gangs or Aria dancing around reapers forces on the battlefield.

What's more, what other potential dlcs could be so important to the storyline that they could also affect the endings? I mean, Leviathan is about the reaper origins ffs, it's a given that it'll at least affect the catalyst's dialgoue. But future dlc having similar elements?

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jgibson14352 wrote...

fr.twitter.com/GambleMike/status/231648298711269376 that was meee!!!11

this definately needs to be looked into further, i cant decide if he was avoiding the question or if what he was saying has some meaning to it. if anybody has any suggestions, ill tweet the reply to try and get an answer

This is what showed up in the center of the screen. I assume you mean the post below that. Posted Image

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HagarIshay wrote...

masster blaster wrote...
Gundam Wing byne. I thought you of all people will know what I was talking about.

But I guess I was wrong. And if I was left standing like Shepard, then my Shepard is my enemy in the Breath scene because he is still alive.


You hate Shepard because s/he is living?

He's just acting like a nutcase again.


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jgibson14352 wrote...

fr.twitter.com/GambleMike/status/231648298711269376 that was meee!!!11

this definately needs to be looked into further, i cant decide if he was avoiding the question or if what he was saying has some meaning to it. if anybody has any suggestions, ill tweet the reply to try and get an answer


I appreciate mike gamble and all the work he and every one else does, but what the hell is that suppose to mean?

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paxxton wrote...

jgibson14352 wrote...

fr.twitter.com/GambleMike/status/231648298711269376 that was meee!!!11

this definately needs to be looked into further, i cant decide if he was avoiding the question or if what he was saying has some meaning to it. if anybody has any suggestions, ill tweet the reply to try and get an answer

This is what showed up in the center of the screen. I assume you mean the post below that. Posted Image

estebanus wrote...

HagarIshay wrote...

masster blaster wrote...
Gundam Wing byne. I thought you of all people will know what I was talking about.

But I guess I was wrong. And if I was left standing like Shepard, then my Shepard is my enemy in the Breath scene because he is still alive.


You hate Shepard because s/he is living?

He's just acting like a nutcase again.


Paxxton you don't want an crazy Krogan to come at you now.:D^_^

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paxxton wrote...

jgibson14352 wrote...

fr.twitter.com/GambleMike/status/231648298711269376 that was meee!!!11

this definately needs to be looked into further, i cant decide if he was avoiding the question or if what he was saying has some meaning to it. if anybody has any suggestions, ill tweet the reply to try and get an answer

This is what showed up in the center of the screen. I assume you mean the post below that. Posted Image

estebanus wrote...

HagarIshay wrote...

masster blaster wrote...
Gundam Wing byne. I thought you of all people will know what I was talking about.

But I guess I was wrong. And if I was left standing like Shepard, then my Shepard is my enemy in the Breath scene because he is still alive.


You hate Shepard because s/he is living?

He's just acting like a nutcase again.

what? this is the link i meant to post.... it works for me...

http://fr.twitter.co...648298711269376




so any suggestions for a possible reply?

Modifié par jgibson14352, 04 août 2012 - 04:58 .


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Guys so what if he lies. We all lie to save the best things for last, and we do it to protect what we are protecting am I right. Also Chris likes IT and so do many other Bioware staff. We should not be mad a anyone, but Casey. He has not showen is face to any of use since ME3 came out, and he has the power to calm everyone down, and tell us what the hell happen. Everything that is happening is not EA's fault, but Casey, and Bioware it's self.

They could have gave us a heads up on what happened after a good portion of the players finished ME3, but they didn't.

Well I don't want Chris to come in here and close the IT thread down, so I will stop. But Bioware I want to tell you this.

The more time you keep the truth from us. The more the fans get angry and leave.

Like you wrote in ME3. You are going to have to chose the fans, our what you want. Chose the fans you are prased a hero.

Stay with your current path be seen as a trolling company that values little for their fans.

Either way if you continue the path you want. It's only going to get to the point, when nobody will care about ME, and that is all.

Sorry for acting like a troll, but you need to face reality and get out more on the threads, and get Casey to come out to the BSN, and let him see the damage the endings have caused us fans.


I don't think anyone read this but here you go.

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 https://fr.twitter.c...792302237044736 
Iiiiinteresting.

RavenEyry wrote...

I was born in Germany and the UK at the same time. That beats everyone.


Shroedinger's Foetus?

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masster blaster wrote...

paxxton wrote...

jgibson14352 wrote...

fr.twitter.com/GambleMike/status/231648298711269376 that was meee!!!11

this definately needs to be looked into further, i cant decide if he was avoiding the question or if what he was saying has some meaning to it. if anybody has any suggestions, ill tweet the reply to try and get an answer

This is what showed up in the center of the screen. I assume you mean the post below that. Posted Image

estebanus wrote...

HagarIshay wrote...

masster blaster wrote...
Gundam Wing byne. I thought you of all people will know what I was talking about.

But I guess I was wrong. And if I was left standing like Shepard, then my Shepard is my enemy in the Breath scene because he is still alive.


You hate Shepard because s/he is living?

He's just acting like a nutcase again.


Paxxton you don't want an crazy Krogan to come at you now.:D^_^

Paxxton has a carnifex, so you're screwed.

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Well just to make it clear if Chris, or any Bioware staff, or a mod got orders to lock down IT, they should have done it on the day it was born. Yet they allow us to live, in which case we still have Biowares support, in case, they may need a last gamble, or card for ME3.

The bottem line is that Chris wants us to speculate and that's good enof from me. I have been watching gundam wing and I already found out who I am and what I have to do, so new comers that were lukers I am glad IT has you. And to Smokingotter please come back I need my otter buddy back. Their is no MB withouy my Otter.

And that goes for the rest of us that got to know you. Chris can get mad all we want about this being off topic, but we are a family on this thread and that means we stand by eachother as one.

And I agree that we can't just declare people this and that, and we do need a breaking ground for IT, if we want the new people of BSN, or BSN itself to understand the key points of IT. As well as the minor key points of IT.

I don't know what Biowares plans are, but all I know is. So long as we have one Bioware staff member supporting IT. I think we are still alive. But I also think Chris likes IT so much and does not want to be forced to shut down IT because of our speculations, as well as our friendships we have made with one another.


otter come back.

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Can someone speculate with me about the keepers?
Byne's post about them got me thinking, what keeps them in check? What tells them what to do, I assume they are not immortal, how do they reproduce?
It would make sense for them to be Rachni because it would mean that somewhere in the citadel there is a queen singing the sour yellow note to them.

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estebanus wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

paxxton wrote...

jgibson14352 wrote...

fr.twitter.com/GambleMike/status/231648298711269376 that was meee!!!11

this definately needs to be looked into further, i cant decide if he was avoiding the question or if what he was saying has some meaning to it. if anybody has any suggestions, ill tweet the reply to try and get an answer

This is what showed up in the center of the screen. I assume you mean the post below that. Posted Image

estebanus wrote...

HagarIshay wrote...

masster blaster wrote...
Gundam Wing byne. I thought you of all people will know what I was talking about.

But I guess I was wrong. And if I was left standing like Shepard, then my Shepard is my enemy in the Breath scene because he is still alive.


You hate Shepard because s/he is living?

He's just acting like a nutcase again.


Paxxton you don't want an crazy Krogan to come at you now.:D^_^

Paxxton has a carnifex, so you're screwed.


We will see.

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Rosewind wrote...

jgibson14352 wrote...

fr.twitter.com/GambleMike/status/231648298711269376 that was meee!!!11

this definately needs to be looked into further, i cant decide if he was avoiding the question or if what he was saying has some meaning to it. if anybody has any suggestions, ill tweet the reply to try and get an answer


I appreciate mike gamble and all the work he and every one else does, but what the hell is that suppose to mean?


Chris' did mention in his post that he hopes future DLC or games will make those fans give Bioware another try, and that is also what Mike Gamble decided to emphasize. Not the statement about the endings.

If making what the fans really want is IT which means expanding on the ending...then they have to decided which one to pic. Is that why the tweet only covers that part? If fan's love is their prime directive then not expanding on the endings (in the sense of IT) goes against that, right?

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MaximizedAction wrote...

Rosewind wrote...

jgibson14352 wrote...

fr.twitter.com/GambleMike/status/231648298711269376 that was meee!!!11

this definately needs to be looked into further, i cant decide if he was avoiding the question or if what he was saying has some meaning to it. if anybody has any suggestions, ill tweet the reply to try and get an answer


I appreciate mike gamble and all the work he and every one else does, but what the hell is that suppose to mean?


Chris' did mention in his post that he hopes future DLC or games will make those fans give Bioware another try, and that is also what Mike Gamble decided to emphasize. Not the statement about the endings.

If making what the fans really want is IT which means expanding on the ending...then they have to decided which one to pic. Is that why the tweet only covers that part? If fan's love is their prime directive than not expanding on the ending goes against that, right?


Which is why they need to chose, and it has to be by the end of this year.

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Home run MF wrote...

Can someone speculate with me about the keepers?
Byne's post about them got me thinking, what keeps them in check? What tells them what to do, I assume they are not immortal, how do they reproduce?
It would make sense for them to be Rachni because it would mean that somewhere in the citadel there is a queen singing the sour yellow note to them.


They also self destruct when someone tries to examine/capture them. Something like that, at least.
Also if they're programmed to wait for a signal, what else are they programmed to do that we don't know about?

Modifié par ThisOneIsPunny, 04 août 2012 - 05:07 .


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TSA_383 wrote...

 https://fr.twitter.c...792302237044736 
Iiiiinteresting.

I was linked to this one from that post.
fr.twitter.com/GambleMike/status/231648298711269376

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ThisOneIsPunny wrote...

Home run MF wrote...

Can someone speculate with me about the keepers?
Byne's post about them got me thinking, what keeps them in check? What tells them what to do, I assume they are not immortal, how do they reproduce?
It would make sense for them to be Rachni because it would mean that somewhere in the citadel there is a queen singing the sour yellow note to them.


They also self destruct when someone tries to examine/capture them.


unless you do the misson in ME1 that requiers you to scan the Keepers.

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masster blaster wrote...

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Well just to make it clear if Chris, or any Bioware staff, or a mod got orders to lock down IT, they should have done it on the day it was born. Yet they allow us to live, in which case we still have Biowares support, in case, they may need a last gamble, or card for ME3.

The bottem line is that Chris wants us to speculate and that's good enof from me. I have been watching gundam wing and I already found out who I am and what I have to do, so new comers that were lukers I am glad IT has you. And to Smokingotter please come back I need my otter buddy back. Their is no MB withouy my Otter.

And that goes for the rest of us that got to know you. Chris can get mad all we want about this being off topic, but we are a family on this thread and that means we stand by eachother as one.

And I agree that we can't just declare people this and that, and we do need a breaking ground for IT, if we want the new people of BSN, or BSN itself to understand the key points of IT. As well as the minor key points of IT.

I don't know what Biowares plans are, but all I know is. So long as we have one Bioware staff member supporting IT. I think we are still alive. But I also think Chris likes IT so much and does not want to be forced to shut down IT because of our speculations, as well as our friendships we have made with one another.


otter come back.



Basster Blaster, you know what? I f*cking hate vehemently dislike your totalitarianism. Really, I do. "If they're not against us, then that means they must be with us" is a retarded stupid logic to use when it comes to corporations and companies.

Also, antagonizing the creator of Mass Efect is just stupid.

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Let me toss out an idea here really quickly... Why do we need proof for a theory we strongly believe in that we feel there has been enough evidence for us to back it, particularly when it's the unpopular and even discriminated against belief? Doesn't mean we are not right or justified. I recall some horrible moments in history when certain now well respected scientists were labeled heretics for saying we were not center of the universe or whatever other examples there were that my tired mind cannot recall at this moment. Who cares if BW justifies our beliefs. Just makes us renegades and stronger for holding to unpopular beliefs that even the company who set them forth from minute one and didn't stop there denied in the end.

People read classic literature and are constantly coming up with unique interpretations and insights into what was written. But nobody is around to say no other than current followers of said literature. They don't get the approval. They may even be seen quite negatively because they don't conform to current doctrine. Our society runs on current doctrine. I look around and see indoctrinated people everywhere who think and believe whatever media and those around them tell them to believe. I've been that way and found pure misery and only in finding my own way and being more of a nonconformist renegade have I achieved peace of mind and a strong sense of self that nobody can undo.

So who cares what BW releases or says or what others believe or say. What matters more to you? Your beliefs based on the knowledge you have and how you obtained it or what the masses say when most of them are sheeple who take whatever they are told and go with it?

Sorry for my boldness, especially when I'm so new here, but seems like people are getting down because some sissy corporates are going the sissy corporate route which they most always do. True innovators like Steve Jobs are the ones who get the prize in the end. ME is microsoft linked, is it not? Microsoft had done nothing innovative and even stole from Steve Jobs yet who made the comeback and had to tenacity to revolutionize the industry in ways Gates only dreams of. And in the end Jobs was vindicated and proven to be a genius. Not saying we'll ever get anything like that, but Jobs was the underdog renegade in a world filled with unoriginal thinkers. His mark in history is pretty damn firm just like those labeled heretics.

So do you need new DLC to help you feel better in what you believe and know to be true FOR YOU.... YOUR TRUTH! We're not the majority, but look around and see what the majority is these days. Sheeple. Wish it weren't so, but everywhere I go there it is. So who cares what some developer from BW posts or what some DLC proves or disproves? The groundwork for IT has already been laid and they can't go back and change it though they are trying to rewrite it now as we post. Their loss. Going the Gates way, but Jobs was the true genius.

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masster blaster wrote...

estebanus wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

paxxton wrote...

jgibson14352 wrote...

fr.twitter.com/GambleMike/status/231648298711269376 that was meee!!!11

this definately needs to be looked into further, i cant decide if he was avoiding the question or if what he was saying has some meaning to it. if anybody has any suggestions, ill tweet the reply to try and get an answer

This is what showed up in the center of the screen. I assume you mean the post below that. Posted Image

estebanus wrote...

HagarIshay wrote...

masster blaster wrote...
Gundam Wing byne. I thought you of all people will know what I was talking about.

But I guess I was wrong. And if I was left standing like Shepard, then my Shepard is my enemy in the Breath scene because he is still alive.


You hate Shepard because s/he is living?

He's just acting like a nutcase again.


Paxxton you don't want an crazy Krogan to come at you now.:D^_^

Paxxton has a carnifex, so you're screwed.


We will see.

Krogan aren't nearly as scary as you make them out to be.

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estebanus wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

paxxton wrote...

jgibson14352 wrote...

fr.twitter.com/GambleMike/status/231648298711269376 that was meee!!!11

this definately needs to be looked into further, i cant decide if he was avoiding the question or if what he was saying has some meaning to it. if anybody has any suggestions, ill tweet the reply to try and get an answer

This is what showed up in the center of the screen. I assume you mean the post below that. Posted Image

estebanus wrote...

HagarIshay wrote...

masster blaster wrote...
Gundam Wing byne. I thought you of all people will know what I was talking about.

But I guess I was wrong. And if I was left standing like Shepard, then my Shepard is my enemy in the Breath scene because he is still alive.


You hate Shepard because s/he is living?

He's just acting like a nutcase again.


Paxxton you don't want an crazy Krogan to come at you now.:D^_^

Paxxton has a carnifex, so you're screwed.

And Biotic Charge, Nova and Shockwave. Posted Image + Geth Plasma Rifle

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estebanus wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

Well just to make it clear if Chris, or any Bioware staff, or a mod got orders to lock down IT, they should have done it on the day it was born. Yet they allow us to live, in which case we still have Biowares support, in case, they may need a last gamble, or card for ME3.

The bottem line is that Chris wants us to speculate and that's good enof from me. I have been watching gundam wing and I already found out who I am and what I have to do, so new comers that were lukers I am glad IT has you. And to Smokingotter please come back I need my otter buddy back. Their is no MB withouy my Otter.

And that goes for the rest of us that got to know you. Chris can get mad all we want about this being off topic, but we are a family on this thread and that means we stand by eachother as one.

And I agree that we can't just declare people this and that, and we do need a breaking ground for IT, if we want the new people of BSN, or BSN itself to understand the key points of IT. As well as the minor key points of IT.

I don't know what Biowares plans are, but all I know is. So long as we have one Bioware staff member supporting IT. I think we are still alive. But I also think Chris likes IT so much and does not want to be forced to shut down IT because of our speculations, as well as our friendships we have made with one another.


otter come back.



Basster Blaster, you know what? I f*cking hate your totalitarianism. Really, I do. "If they're not against us, then that means they must be with us" is a retarded logic to use when it comes to corporations and companies.

Also, antagonizing the creator of Mass Efect is just stupid.


I am pointing out the fact that it was his chose to do this, and everything that has happened is because of his chose to do this.. He has the power to end everything, but he does not. i don't hate Casey, I just want him to come out and explain things that's all.

And I am just trying to be positive about Bioware being wiht us. It's not idael, but it's better than nothing.