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Fur28 wrote...

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I just noticed that the first nightmare had no oily shadows and no voices while the second one has oily shadows and Mordin/Ashley with some background whispers. The third, IIRC, is loaded with oily shadows and lots of voices. Though I wonder if it will change since I'm making a lot of renegade responses the run for strength/will.


nah, they will probably stay the same doesn´t matter if you´re paragon or renegade, more oily shadows means more indoctrination advancement

Also in my last play, i noticed that Thane´s voice appears in the dreams saying the word he tells to you when you romance him


As in, even if you didn't romance him?

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Fur28 wrote...

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I just noticed that the first nightmare had no oily shadows and no voices while the second one has oily shadows and Mordin/Ashley with some background whispers. The third, IIRC, is loaded with oily shadows and lots of voices. Though I wonder if it will change since I'm making a lot of renegade responses the run for strength/will.



Also in my last play, i noticed that Thane´s voice appears in the dreams saying the word he tells to you when you romance him


I'm due for that one with thane since I just did a romance with him in ME2 and carried into ME3.

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masster blaster wrote...

Blurr " Will kill them all." Spartacus.

But Starlit Udina counciler in ME1

Don't become a specter at all, it's possible.


No, you should make Anderson councilor. Udina mentions at one point that as Councilor Anderson didnt do enough work and it made Udina's job as replacement councilor harder. I dont think this actually impacts the game in any way, but it does fit with the whole 'Shepard ****s up everything she touches' thing we're going with.

And theres no reason not to become a Spectre again in ME2. It is neither positive nor negative, and it gets restored in ME3 no matter what anyways.

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You know what starting next week I am going to do that.


With that, do you mean the return of the Forerunners?

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Fur28 wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

You know what starting next week I am going to do that.


With that, do you mean the return of the Forerunners?


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BleedingUranium wrote...

As in, even if you didn't romance him?


Unless they changed it, he'll call you siha in the dreams whether you romanced him or not. I think it might have to do with how much you talked with him in ME2, since he'll call FemShep siha at one point before the romance officially starts, so it isnt technically a romance thing.

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byne wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

Blurr " Will kill them all." Spartacus.

But Starlit Udina counciler in ME1

Don't become a specter at all, it's possible.


And theres no reason not to become a Spectre again in ME2. It is neither positive nor negative, and it gets restored in ME3 no matter what anyways.


I don´t remember how, but there was a way to avoid the scannig in the entrance to the citadel if you didn´t reinstate your spectre status, just because of that it´s better not to become a spectre

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masster blaster wrote...

Blurr " Will kill them all." Spartacus.

But Starlit Udina counciler in ME1

Don't become a specter at all, it's possible.

Also you can turn down Garrus and Tail, and be an ahole to Anderson and allways side with Cerberus. Let Cerberus have Legion, and Grunt. Let the world burn. Also let Rana live, and don't help Zuhs hope, and kill them all.

You know what starting next week I am going to do that.


How do I not become a spectre? That would be interesting. This last run of ME2 I told them to shove it.

I think my ruthless run will not have a romance and will be a fast killing spree. I can probably bang it out in 2 days easily since no side missions, minimal loyalty missions.

I did make Udina the councilor in ME1 in a character before this and it didn't matter. In fact, it was utterly irrelevant. Truly. I did not notice anything different. I guess I'd have to kill the council though in ME1, which would be fun given they are tools. I'm curious to see all the hate I get in ME2 for it. It will only fuel my ruthlessness.

What does giving legion and grunt do ultimately? I guess it screws with survival of the crew in ME2 suicide mission but I have to have legion for the ducts. If I give grunt that's enough. Legion I'll keep.

Anyone know what happens at the monastery if Samara dies?

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Okay BleedingUranium what do you you think about this. Don't Get EDI and Joker together kill the ME1 queen, not the ME3 one, or the ME3 queen. Kill Mordin, let boom go off on Tuchanka, be rude to Liara, as well as your whole squad. Save Morith not Samara kill Samaras daughter, or let Samara die by killing herself and in the process your Renegade Shepard will kill her last daughter.

I will go on, but for the main key chocies do the opposite.

Udina for Counciler
Let the Coucnile die
Kill Kadin, or Ash/Wrex/Kirrha of Virmire
Save the Base
Destroy Melons work
Destroy the geth heritcas ( you can still save the geth, but their numbers will be short.
Kill most of you squad but just enough for Shepard to live.
Be rude to everyone.
No side quest
A**hole to Anderson
Make sure Diana allers is not with you, and give Cerberus Grunt, and Legion
Also don't go help your squadmates in ME3. Let them either die or let jack become a phantom, as well as her students
Back talk to Hackett.
Oh and do renegade actions everytime.

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What does giving legion and grunt do ultimately? I guess it screws with survival of the crew in ME2 suicide mission but I have to have legion for the ducts. If I give grunt that's enough. Legion I'll keep.

Anyone know what happens at the monastery if Samara dies?


You cant give Grunt to Cerberus. Masster is wrong. You can leave him in stasis I guess, but you cant give him over.

If you give Legion over he becomes a random enemy you fight in Cronos Station.

If Samara dies, she just isnt at the Monastery, its just you and Falere. I think Falere gets all whiny that you let her mother die.

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masster blaster wrote...

be rude to Liara


Nope.

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How do I not become a spectre? And if I do that, how do I still get my ship? The game seems to be rigged to make that happen and like I can't do certain things until I do it. Anyone?

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How do I not become a spectre? And if I do that, how do I still get my ship? The game seems to be rigged to make that happen and like I can't do certain things until I do it. Anyone?


I figure masster meant dont get your status reinstated, as its impossible to not become a Spectre in ME1.

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Byne yes because I am curious to see what happence if your rude to ALL your squadmates that means Liara. That's the point if you want to go beyond Renegade. If you can't then Star or I will. Also Actually you can kill Samaras daughter,if you let Samara die and I think a Renegade Shepard will kill her, or it's an interupt option.

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Shepard?


Garrus

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starlitegirlx wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

Blurr " Will kill them all." Spartacus.

But Starlit Udina counciler in ME1

Don't become a specter at all, it's possible.

Also you can turn down Garrus and Tail, and be an ahole to Anderson and allways side with Cerberus. Let Cerberus have Legion, and Grunt. Let the world burn. Also let Rana live, and don't help Zuhs hope, and kill them all.

You know what starting next week I am going to do that.


How do I not become a spectre? That would be interesting. This last run of ME2 I told them to shove it.

I think my ruthless run will not have a romance and will be a fast killing spree. I can probably bang it out in 2 days easily since no side missions, minimal loyalty missions.

I did make Udina the councilor in ME1 in a character before this and it didn't matter. In fact, it was utterly irrelevant. Truly. I did not notice anything different. I guess I'd have to kill the council though in ME1, which would be fun given they are tools. I'm curious to see all the hate I get in ME2 for it. It will only fuel my ruthlessness.

What does giving legion and grunt do ultimately? I guess it screws with survival of the crew in ME2 suicide mission but I have to have legion for the ducts. If I give grunt that's enough. Legion I'll keep.

Anyone know what happens at the monastery if Samara dies?


You don't need Legion for the vents, Kasumi and Tali can do that too.

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masster blaster wrote...

Byne yes because I am curious to see what happence if your rude to ALL your squadmates that means Liara.


Being rude to Liara changes nothing. She's still basically in love with Shepard (even if you dont romance her). She probably just thinks Shepard is being tsundere.

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Oh and I forgot that Star Let your Shepard's profile be ruthless. And maybe Earth born. Actually yes. That's actually a good one ,or Colony. Not military life that's not a good back story.

Oh and be a jerk to everyone, and remember no sacnning planets or finding things for the Crucible.

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masster blaster wrote...

Oh and I forgot that Star Let your Shepard's profile be ruthless. And maybe Earth born. Actually yes. That's actually a good one ,or Colony. Not military life that's not a good back story.

Oh and be a jerk to everyone, and remember no sacnning planets or finding things for the Crucible.


Colonist/Ruthless is a good one. Just act like your hatred of batarians due to them killing your family is what made you so reckless on Torfan. It sticks with the theme of Shepard ****ing everything up that we're going for.

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Meh I will still do it and maybe Star or anyone else. Really I just want to see what's the over all out come.

I told myself I would never go renegade full renegade Shepard, but I will.

The galaxy will pay my Shepard tribute in blood, or Star's.

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BleedingUranium wrote...

starlitegirlx wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

Blurr " Will kill them all." Spartacus.

But Starlit Udina counciler in ME1

Don't become a specter at all, it's possible.

Also you can turn down Garrus and Tail, and be an ahole to Anderson and allways side with Cerberus. Let Cerberus have Legion, and Grunt. Let the world burn. Also let Rana live, and don't help Zuhs hope, and kill them all.

You know what starting next week I am going to do that.


How do I not become a spectre? That would be interesting. This last run of ME2 I told them to shove it.

I think my ruthless run will not have a romance and will be a fast killing spree. I can probably bang it out in 2 days easily since no side missions, minimal loyalty missions.

I did make Udina the councilor in ME1 in a character before this and it didn't matter. In fact, it was utterly irrelevant. Truly. I did not notice anything different. I guess I'd have to kill the council though in ME1, which would be fun given they are tools. I'm curious to see all the hate I get in ME2 for it. It will only fuel my ruthlessness.

What does giving legion and grunt do ultimately? I guess it screws with survival of the crew in ME2 suicide mission but I have to have legion for the ducts. If I give grunt that's enough. Legion I'll keep.

Anyone know what happens at the monastery if Samara dies?


You don't need Legion for the vents, Kasumi and Tali can do that too.


Yeah but tali whines way too much about the heat. It's annoying to the max. I'm going for ruthless not utterly insane. :devil:  

Oh jack will die if I am that ruthless because low paragon. Blow off the academy. Don't do any cerberus side missions if possible. Do they expire? Tali will cause legion to die if I don't resolve their conflict unless my ruthless is insanely high. I might have to use gibbed to do that. Not sure. ME1 and ME2 will be quick. Like less than a day quick. ME3, not sure. It's all forced stuff you have to do for the most part, so that will be the longest.

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[quote]BleedingUranium wrote...



What does giving legion and grunt do ultimately? I guess it screws with survival of the crew in ME2 suicide mission but I have to have legion for the ducts. If I give grunt that's enough. Legion I'll keep.

Anyone know what happens at the monastery if Samara dies?

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You don't need Legion for the vents, Kasumi and Tali can do that too.[/quote]

Ideally want you want to do is follow the suicide mission flowchart to get the people with higher hold the line scores killed. What you want the end result to be is everyone but your two loyal squadmates that you take to the final fight to die. You should really only do two loyalty missions throughout the game. One has to be Mordin's so you can destroy the cure, and keep him alive to betray in ME3. The other should be Miranda since she's the hardest to kill off anyways. Killing her off in ME3 is easy though.

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Meh I will still do it and maybe Star or anyone else. Really I just want to see what's the over all out come.

I told myself I would never go renegade full renegade Shepard, but I will.

The galaxy will pay my Shepard tribute in blood, or Star's.


Masster, you know I already did this all months ago, right? Thats why I've got so many tips for how to be the worst possible Shepard. Because I've already been her.

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Oh and don't do arrival Star let the Alliance team die, so the Alliance marians can loose half of their comrads.
Oha dn byne ya Ruthless/Colonist is a good one.oh and byne have you seen the Video where Jack is a phantom. I was just blown away. Why didn't that person go save them?

Also It's going to be funny fighting Legion,Jack,andher students on TIM's base.

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masster blaster wrote...

Oh and don't do arrival Star let the Alliance team die, so the Alliance marians can loose half of their comrads.
Oha dn byne ya Ruthless/Colonist is a good one.oh and byne have you seen the Video where Jack is a phantom. I was just blown away. Why didn't that person go save them?

Also It's going to be funny fighting Legion,Jack,andher students on TIM's base.


If Jack survives ME2, you're doing the FailShep run wrong. To do it right, you cant upgrade the Normandy at all, and if you dont get armor, she always dies.

Legion also shouldnt survive ME2. He should die at the Collector base, not be handed to Cerberus.

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