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[Dark Delta 06]

BleedingUranium wrote...

*Looks up pictures of Sophia Loren*



*Looks up younger pictures of Sophia Loren*

She does look a lot like Jack!

Just looked on google and your right :happy:
 Really looks a lot like Jack 

Edit:Not the right thread but... Anyone else here also hoping Jack comes along for the Retake Omega Dlc?

Modifié par Dark Delta 06, 05 novembre 2012 - 10:38 .

[Gwyphon]

Dark Delta 06 wrote...

BleedingUranium wrote...

*Looks up pictures of Sophia Loren*



*Looks up younger pictures of Sophia Loren*

She does look a lot like Jack!

Just looked on google and your right :happy:
 Really looks a lot like Jack 

Edit:Not the right thread but... Anyone else here also hoping Jack comes along for the Retake Omega Dlc?

I'm hoping for more EDI and, strangely enough, James forced encounters. EDI is interesting and James is just suspicious (especially after Leviathan).

[Raistlin Majare 1992]

starlitegirlx wrote...

byne wrote...

BleedingUranium wrote...

Kaidan's one of my favourite characters, as he reminds me of me in a lot of ways, but he really is Paragon-Stupid, like Batman, which is the way he's not like me.

He won't work with Cerberus, even if it means we all die. He has doubts about shooting Udina if you make him do it. There are more, I'm sure.

Another way Kaidan is not like you is that I actually like you, and the same cannot be said for Mr Alenko.

Awww. Kaidan is good but they turned him into a tool for ME2 which was totally incongruent with his behavior on ME1 regarding his feelings for femshep and his trust in her and that he pushed for her to go to Ilos breaking regs and risking court martial. He didn't care about anything but stopping the reapers. They basically backpeddled on his character particularly if you romanced him in ME1. So in ME3 I get payback by romancing Thane from now on since I get the best letter from him after he dies that he wrote before he was stabbed. Honestly, it was beautiful and makes me wish Thane were a permanent character or in ME1 and ME3 as a love interest because he was the best.

But yeah, kaidan's kind of spineless. He has a good nature, but he lacks balls and has this false integrity. I would think he would be floored that alliance and the council called shepard delusional about the reapers after she died. In his letter to her after horizon and in their meeting on horizon he goes on about how it tore him apart. In ME3 they even bring that feature back. But when she is standing there, fighting to save people who were just abducted right in front of him, no less, he is all pissy about cerberus. Sorry, but if I were a writer, I would have had him join the team because of how they disgraced her and broke up a great team (that saved the citadel and stopped the reapers!). That he is so broken up about her being dead and she explains to him that it took 2 years to bring her back and his first reaction isn't 'thank God you are alive' followed by 'I know you. I trust you. I followed you to ilos. I'll follow you now." - not that he should be a lapdog, but considering how they write his great love for her, he sure fails beyond the fathomable to show it. You would think given his feelings he would follow her to hell and back. Garrus did and he was only a friend and fellow soldier. Most especially, I have serious issues with any guy/character who has such deep love for another but is okay working for the people that call her delusional regarding a threat that he knows to be real. Donnelly showed more backbone and he never even met shepard! In my renegade/ruthless run, I'll romance him so I can kill him in ME3. Just for bad writing and not leaving the alliance after they trashed her memory or allowed it to be trashed with the whole delusional stuff.

Meh, never romanced him, never desired to do so on any of my Fem Shep runs.

But i will admit Kaidan has one line which I really loved in ME3. It is right after Sanctuary where he says the following bit:

"Can you feel it, Shepard? Feel the quickening? Illusive Man better say
his prayers tonight, because we're coming for him. Murderous ****. Oh
yeah. Tide is turning. I can feel it."


I dont know why, but I love the way he delivers that line.

[Rifneno]

Gwyphon wrote...

Fur28 wrote...
Cant imagine how hard is was for you to sacrifice either the geth or quarians

Oh god I sat there staring at my screen for about half an hour when I was given that decision. I finally picked the quarians because, well, Tali is probably my favorite character of the series.
Then I was given the get out of jail free  paragon option and everyone wins! :happy:

Ahh.  I spent several agonizing jiffies at that screen before saying "Karma's a ****" and siding with Legion.  I took the get out of jail free card when it was offered, but I had no qualms about siding against the people that are, and always have been, the aggressors in that conflict.

BleedingUranium wrote...

Jack actually has one of the prettiest faces out of any character. That's face specifically, not the rest of her appearance, including baldness.

If you say so. Personally, I can't get past the shaved head. That's less feminine than chest hair. Though I probably wouldn't see her like that regardless. Particularly... let's go with "strong". Particularly "strong" women just don't even register in my brain as the opposite sex. For instance I watched 5 seasons of Xena before I saw Lucy Lawless playing another role and noticed she was attractive.

BleedingUranium wrote...

Actually, it would've been hard, but not because the actual decision is hard. Geth vs Quarians? Geth everytime. Legion vs Tali? Legion. Except Tali's a she, and I've always been bothered by pretty (well... y'know) girls getting killed. Same problem as Ash.

What's ME1 Ash got to do with pretty women?

starlitegirlx wrote...

I just wish that Koris could have survived those runs with his children.

Wha?! You let Koris die?

[Dark Delta 06]

Gwyphon wrote...


I'm hoping for more EDI and, strangely enough, James forced encounters. EDI is interesting and James is just suspicious (especially after Leviathan).

Why do you say James. Is suspicious?
... I may have missed stuff I believe I never took him on a mission and apart from him wanting that weird husk head on the normandy and the scene where he and Shepard are with Ann Bryson I didn't see much of him loool

[Fur28]

so, when do you guys think they will announce the stuff for N7 Day?
because if they dont announce it today, tomorrow i´m going to be to busy playing Halo 4 to give a S*** about ME

[Gwyphon]

Dark Delta 06 wrote...

Gwyphon wrote...


I'm hoping for more EDI and, strangely enough, James forced encounters. EDI is interesting and James is just suspicious (especially after Leviathan).

Why do you say James. Is suspicious?
... I may have missed stuff I believe I never took him on a mission and apart from him wanting that weird husk head on the normandy and the scene where he and Shepard are with Ann Bryson I didn't see much of him loool

The line about humming, his history with collectors, and the fact that he comes out of freaking no where in the lab during the Leviathan DLC. Scared the hell out of me. I just think he's the perfect character for Bioware to say he's indoctrinated. Not too developed that people will get angry over attatchment to him and not late enough to still be a little shocking. Guess it's just a feeling I have, but it was mainly over him of all people appearing out of no where during Leviathan.

[Raistlin Majare 1992]

Dark Delta 06 wrote...

Gwyphon wrote...


I'm hoping for more EDI and, strangely enough, James forced encounters. EDI is interesting and James is just suspicious (especially after Leviathan).

Why do you say James. Is suspicious?
... I may have missed stuff I believe I never took him on a mission and apart from him wanting that weird husk head on the normandy and the scene where he and Shepard are with Ann Bryson I didn't see much of him loool

"Do you hear that hum?"

James has some strange moments here and there, but nough for me to be too suspicious...yet.

[Fur28]

Gwyphon wrote...

Dark Delta 06 wrote...

Gwyphon wrote...


I'm hoping for more EDI and, strangely enough, James forced encounters. EDI is interesting and James is just suspicious (especially after Leviathan).

Why do you say James. Is suspicious?
... I may have missed stuff I believe I never took him on a mission and apart from him wanting that weird husk head on the normandy and the scene where he and Shepard are with Ann Bryson I didn't see much of him loool

The line about humming, his history with collectors, and the fact that he comes out of freaking no where in the lab during the Leviathan DLC. Scared the hell out of me. I just think he's the perfect character for Bioware to say he's indoctrinated. Not too developed that people will get angry over attatchment to him and not late enough to still be a little shocking. Guess it's just a feeling I have, but it was mainly over him of all people appearing out of no where during Leviathan.

would have prefered that your LI or best friend to be indoctrinated but yeah James fits very well to be the indoctrinated one for the reasons you just said. And he probably will pop out of nowhere in Omega because of his pre-launch comic

[Dark Delta 06]

Ahh I've heard that line "do you hear that hum?" just a couple of hours ago LOL

But I was playing preety late ..3am lool so I had headphones to not disturb the neighbours, so I had better sound quality to compare...and isn't the hum he talks about the same hum that you comes out of the normandy engine?

Cause when you are on engineering level you can hear the engine's hum....

Modifié par Dark Delta 06, 05 novembre 2012 - 12:16 .

[Macross]

Gwyphon wrote...

Dark Delta 06 wrote...

Gwyphon wrote...


I'm hoping for more EDI and, strangely enough, James forced encounters. EDI is interesting and James is just suspicious (especially after Leviathan).

Why do you say James. Is suspicious?
... I may have missed stuff I believe I never took him on a mission and apart from him wanting that weird husk head on the normandy and the scene where he and Shepard are with Ann Bryson I didn't see much of him loool

The line about humming, his history with collectors, and the fact that he comes out of freaking no where in the lab during the Leviathan DLC. Scared the hell out of me. I just think he's the perfect character for Bioware to say he's indoctrinated. Not too developed that people will get angry over attatchment to him and not late enough to still be a little shocking. Guess it's just a feeling I have, but it was mainly over him of all people appearing out of no where during Leviathan.

Speak for yourself mate. I'm already way to over attched to him. His mah second-bro, after Garrus and my main bro for Femshep. love that man. (Seriously though, favorite male squad member after Garrus in the entire series. Dude is wicked cool).

So, recently replayed the ending and I can't see it in a literal light. At all. There are to many 'on-purpose' inconsistencies (like the magically appearing step for Anderson and Shep to lean on, for instance) within the scene itself for me to think that it's anything but a dream/hallucination.

However, I decided to select that last of my dialogue opitions for the Anderson/TIM confortnation as renegade and TIM ended up going on this whole speial about him being the pinacle one and the one chosen to save humanity and crap which I'd never ever heard before or heard existing, at all. Is this new to EC /Leviathan or have I been missing this for the past 7 months?

Also, I love Javik's line about Shepard being the 'Avatar' of this cycle. It sums up almost perfectly why the Reapers would want to indoctrinate Shepard.

[Fur28]

Dark Delta 06 wrote...

Ahh I've heard that line "do you hear that hum?" just a couple of hours ago LOL

But I was playing preety late ..3am lool so I had headphones to not disturb the neighbours, so I had better sound quality to compare...and isn't the hum he talks about the same hum that you comes out of the normandy engine?

Cause when you are on engineering level you can hear the engine's hum....

I thought he was refering to the engine at first too, but the sound of the engine its there from the start and its very easy for him to recognize the sound of an engine for him to be asking about it.

So its probable he´s hearing a hum nobody else hears, and also a sign of indoctrination

[Fur28]

@Macross
if he ends up being indoctrinated, bioware will probably put the option to save him

Modifié par Fur28, 05 novembre 2012 - 12:25 .

[Dark Delta 06]

Fur28 wrote...


I thought he was refering to the engine at first too, but the sound of the engine its there from the start and its very easy for him to recognize the sound of an engine for him to be asking about it.

So its probable he´s hearing a hum nobody else hears, and also a sign of indoctrination

Yeah your probalably right, the engine noise is preety evident,  no way we would mistake it.

[Macross]

Fur28 wrote...

@Macross
if he ends up being indoctrinated, bioware will probably put the option to save him

I don't actually have a problem with him being Indoctrinated. I love the guy but if it helps Bioware spin a good yarn then I am totally fine with him being indoctrinated. I also dislike the idea of being able to save someone from Indoctrination. It hasn't really happened before and it's the one part of the Reapers I'd like to remain undeafetable (except for Shepard being able to withstand it, but that's not the same as being cured or saved from it). Indoctrination is pretty much the one real weapon the Reapers have that make the insanely scary. 

[Dark Delta 06]

Macross wrote...

Fur28 wrote...

@Macross
if he ends up being indoctrinated, bioware will probably put the option to save him

I don't actually have a problem with him being Indoctrinated. I love the guy but if it helps Bioware spin a good yarn then I am totally fine with him being indoctrinated. I also dislike the idea of being able to save someone from Indoctrination. It hasn't really happened before and it's the one part of the Reapers I'd like to remain undeafetable (except for Shepard being able to withstand it, but that's not the same as being cured or saved from it). Indoctrination is pretty much the one real weapon the Reapers have that make the insanely scary. 

Yeah I agree, saving someone from indoctrination should not happen, at least if they are in a advanced state.... Except for Shepard but then again, Shepard has been in contact with lots of indoctrinated agents, prothean beacons, and been in contact with the Reaper Beacon on arrival..

[Fur28]

Macross wrote...

Fur28 wrote...

@Macross
if he ends up being indoctrinated, bioware will probably put the option to save him

I don't actually have a problem with him being Indoctrinated. I love the guy but if it helps Bioware spin a good yarn then I am totally fine with him being indoctrinated. I also dislike the idea of being able to save someone from Indoctrination. It hasn't really happened before and it's the one part of the Reapers I'd like to remain undeafetable (except for Shepard being able to withstand it, but that's not the same as being cured or saved from it). Indoctrination is pretty much the one real weapon the Reapers have that make the insanely scary. 

yeah i get what you mean, but having an option is always welcome, and maybe instead of freeing him from indoctrination you put him in quarantine and hope that the data from Sanctuary will help him in the future, or just let him off himself like Saren and TIM when they aknowledged they were indoctrinated

[Davik Kang]

While you guys are talking about Vega, can anyone share any light on the much-maligned Steve Cortez crash scene?

If he dies on Earth (I think if you didn't support him re: his dead husband), and either VS is in your squad at the the time, they will scream/roar as if they are facing the same fate. I think this indicates that things are starting to make no sense, because Shepard is starting to hallucinate things (we can see the squadmates behind Shepard and, physically, they are not reacting).

But what about Vega's reaction? He starts whooping "Yeah, yeah!" or something, as if he is gunning down Reapers somewhere. Is this dialogue recycled from somewhere? Does it fit into his backstory somehow?

Modifié par Davik Kang, 05 novembre 2012 - 01:54 .

[Restrider]

demersel wrote...

And further more i think that devs making him the way he is in ME3 - is pure genius, especially in romanced femshep case. It is not you who who romances Jacob. Jacob romances you. Think about it.

That is so genius, demersel.

[Rifneno]

Davik Kang wrote...

While you guys are talking about Vega, can anyone share any light on the much-maligned Steve Cortez crash scene?

If he dies on Earth (I think if you didn't support him re: his dead husband), and either VS is in your squad at the the time, they will scream/roar as if they are facing the same fate. I think this indicates that things are starting to mkae no sense, because Shepard is starting to hallucinate things (we can see the squadmates behind Shepard and, physically, they are not reacting).

But what about Vega's reaction? He starts whooping "Yeah, yeah!" or something, as if he is gunning down Reapers somewhere. Is this dialogue recycled from somewhere? Does it fit into his backstory somehow?

Isn't it obvious?  Bad writing™!

[Davik Kang]

Rifneno wrote...
Isn't it obvious?  Bad writing™!

Goddamnit.  Of course.  Why didn't I think of that?

Seriously though, I'm not ruling out Bad Writing for anything even though it is a serious affront to my love for the game, but has anyone anywhere ever come up with any kind of explantion for this dialogue here?

Vid is here for those interested.  It's only 1min and has all reactions.  Vega's up first.

Modifié par Davik Kang, 05 novembre 2012 - 01:38 .

[masster blaster]

Vega now that is interesting. First he is asked to become N7, then he pulls a crazy stunt on Mars almost killing Liara Ash, or Kadin and Shepard. He get's upset if your Shepard tells him to go back to the shuttle. He then hears hums, and he is telling Shepard about his run in with the Collectors.

But I don't think he is an Indoctrinated agent yet. He is more like in his early stages, as well as Kadin, Ash, and Liara.

Edi, Javik, Garrus and Tali don't show any signs of Indoctrination attempts or it's symptims.

[Jusseb]

I don't think any of our team is actually indoctrinated. If they would, there should and would be far more sabotage in your path and i don't really see that anywhere.

Everyone is with you 100% and they are mostly worried about you. If i see other characters in de series that were indoctrinated, i can't really match them with any of our crew.

I don't see 'hard' evidence that any of our crew is indoctrinated. It's based on assumptions.

Modifié par Jusseb, 05 novembre 2012 - 02:03 .

[KyreneZA]

Raistlin Majare 1992 wrote...

Dark Delta 06 wrote...

Gwyphon wrote...


I'm hoping for more EDI and, strangely enough, James forced encounters. EDI is interesting and James is just suspicious (especially after Leviathan).

Why do you say James. Is suspicious?
... I may have missed stuff I believe I never took him on a mission and apart from him wanting that weird husk head on the normandy and the scene where he and Shepard are with Ann Bryson I didn't see much of him loool

"Do you hear that hum?"

James has some strange moments here and there, but nough for me to be too suspicious...yet.

I've always had the strange feeling that he could hear something hum only in Shepard's presence; that he could hear the implants used to 'Project Lazarus' Shepard whenever Shepard was that close to him, or something. I mean, if Shepard were being indoctrinated, wouldn't they be able to indoctrinate (or perhaps further indoctrinate, like in Vega's case) those around them too?

[masster blaster]

Okay guys I have been thinking how does somebody get fully Indoctrinated? We know what can cause Indoctrination, we know what the signs are, and we know if you install Reaper tech in your body you become a fully Indoctrinated servent. Yet what really causes Idoctrination to take over the mind/body?

Look at Saren we wanted Synthesis in the end it turns out he was Indoctrinate ever since he meet Nazar. Did he have a choice too? He said on Virmire that he didn't have a choice yet he picked Synthesis.

Now look at TIM he knows that Nobody can control the Reapers from his experiance with Saren's brother. He picked Control because he knows that he can't refuse to save humanity, nor can he synthesisfy everyone, yet he can Control the Reapers so that he can use them to help humanity andlet humanity become the apex of evoultion.

Now Kenson is also Indoctrinated, yet she picked refuse.

She couldn't kill the Batarins, nor could she try to Control the Reapers, or Synthesis everyone. She just gave up and would let the Reapers come and wait for the world to end. She saw that their is still hope, yet it was for the Reapers salvation.

Now you have Shepard that is being Indoctrinated through out ME3 or Me1-ME3. Now if you think about it every Indoctrinated person had a chocie. The problem is choice. The Catalyst methods for Indoctrinating Shepard can't work so he creates the end chocies except Destroy. It's Shepard's fail safe, not refuse. Refuse again is Kenson.

Also the Catalyst says Shepard is the first Organic here, yet what about Synthetics? He only said Organics, but Synthetics? Or you can say he is lying because all Indoctrated people had a chocie.

Kenson Refuse/reject
Saren Synthesis
TIM Control

Destroy ?????
Nobody has ever picked Destroy because of what the Catalyst tells them

The way I see it

The Catalyst took on the apperence of anyone inmportant to each Indoctrinated person

TIM's was his lost friends. The catalyst took on the apperence of one of them and tricked TIM to picking Control

Saren was his brother.

And Kenson was Hackett. I say Hackett because they were close friends.

Now for Shepard it's that child because it's Shepard guilt that he/she can't save everyone, but it's not a real child. Going back to the trailer a girl was holding the Alliance fighter in her hands. The same fighter the boy holds. What if the child was the real child Shepard was suppost to see.

Also when Shepard picks up the toy fighter he/she looks pissed off like something from his/her past he/she saw. The boy mabye, or Shepard is just pissed.