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Either.Ardrey

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Anyone seen the leaked images yet for the new Turian for the Omega DLC?

 http://social.biowar.../index/14819455

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I don't even own an Xbox, nor do I have any interest in acquiring one.

I probably did a lifetime's worth of Halo in high school anyways.

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Seriously what is the big deal about the Turian Female? Who the hell cares?

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plfranke wrote...

Seriously what is the big deal about the Turian Female? Who the hell cares?


Umm, a lot of people!

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plfranke wrote...

Seriously what is the big deal about the Turian Female? Who the hell cares?


Two words: dem mandibles. :P

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DoomsdayDevice wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

Oh and has anyone notice that they added a huge tower in Rio, or where they there, as well as thea huge underground base that cover half of the map?


W-w-what? They changed the Rio map? :blink:


They did not, but there were looking at that location in the Paragon lost trailer, as well as a Phantom on the Normandy. My post about it is either on this or the last page.

And yeah, we're leaving, but not for an hour and 45.

Modifié par BleedingUranium, 06 novembre 2012 - 04:14 .


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So everyone is leaving? :crying: 


I'll still be here.

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plfranke wrote...

Seriously what is the big deal about the Turian Female? Who the hell cares?


Well, we've never seen one before, for starters (comics aside)

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So I was noticing the side fringe on our female turian friend there.. reminds me a lot of Saren. Maybe he was a bit of a, uh, feminine guy?

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By the way getting back to that trailer with the girl.  A couple of things I noticed that I couldn't get posted earlier:

The ladybug or ladybird was immortalised in the still-popular children's nursery rhyme Ladybird, Ladybird

Ladybird, ladybird, fly away home
Your house is on fire and your children are gone
All except one, and that's Little Anne
For she has crept under the warming pan.

However, when you explore the different iterations of the rhyme you see this one -


And from Peterborough:

Ladybird, ladybird, fly away home, / Your horse is on foot, your children are gone;
All but one, and that's little John, / And he lies under the grindle stone.

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Andromidius

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John is MaleShep's default name.

...yeah.

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starlitegirlx wrote...

mrgc wrote...

Dark Delta 06 wrote...

Gwyphon wrote...


I'm hoping for more EDI and, strangely enough, James forced encounters. EDI is interesting and James is just suspicious (especially after Leviathan).


Why do you say James. Is suspicious?
... I may have missed stuff I believe I never took him on a mission and apart from him wanting that weird husk head on the normandy and the scene where he and Shepard are with Ann Bryson I didn't see much of him loool



Hello I hope you don't mind me interrupting the tread ,but i'd like to add a few things about James being suspicious.At first the hummming... I never really thought it was the ship engines because as I recall Tali complained about the Normandy's engines being to quiet to sleep in ME1 and as the second Normandy is much more upgraded than the first one I doubt it would make such a noise. And only James hears it.

Also, to me, it felt that he's personality changed towards the end of the game from being all battle eager to a bit more insecure .( I got that feeling when he did'nt adress my femshep as lola anymore)



If you guided him toward the N7 program and found him in the cargo bay getting the N7 tattoo where he considers you his trainer and then you call him on his BS flirting, I think that would change him. He says when he commits, he commits. Even if you don't have the N7 conversation with him, the game will play his character as if you did.  The end result is he is dedicated, committed and taking things more seriously now. Nothing to do with indoctrination. Insecure comes with the territory. Remember, he did not like the outcome of that mission where he ran it and everyone save him and maybe another soldier died. So naturally he will have insecurities about the N7 program and being able to cut it. He had doubts in the N7 discussion. Those doubts won't evaporate overnight. I'd be more concerned it they did.

Humming does not equal indoctrination. It is just him hearing humming. There is a noticable hum down there. He's new to the normandy since it just pulled out of dry dock to get shepard while most of the rest of the crew (that we talk to before we begin pick ups) appears to have been there for the retrofit. Adams, cortez, traynor ... all there. Cortez might have ignorned the hum as he was used to it by then. The other crew you pick up never goes down there so the only one that it makes sense with would be Vega. But there is a hum. People assume it's one you are not hearing, but it's noisy down there.

So really, there is no evidence to support him being indoctrinated on any level. Plus, when would he have been? Artifact exposure is necessary.

As for the one mentioned earlier regarding him at the lab/house of bryson, I think he was chosen because he's not primary to any other scenes and he is a gauranteed squadmate. Others get their own scenes through recruitment. But he never does so they might have wanted to include him in something so he gets his own scene. Same for EDI but she's logical in that she would be useful in figuring out what happened and correlating data.




All the James stuff is just a 'feeling' people have gotten after a while about him, but there's no solid evidence, let alone proof.

It can easily go either way with him.

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byne wrote...

.......I somehow forgot today was Monday. I havent even watched the episode yet! :pinched:


Having watched the episode, I am thoroughly underwhelmed

Positives:
-The doing good speech by Carolina was good.
-The stuff with the Director was awesome.

Negatives:

-Flowers was one of the first people I expected, and then realized that no, thats silly, it would be stupid if it was him, and wrote it off months ago. Disappointing.
-Halo 4 next season. By far the worst thing to come from the episode.
-Got me excited for a 17 minute episode, only to have nearly half be credits and trailers.

I realize 2/3rds of my complaints dont have anything to do with the actual content of the episode, though. Well, I guess looking ridiculous is technically content, but it has nothing to do with the narrative.

They should have stuck with Halo 3 and gone back to Blood Gulch. They proved with Relic that they can do Halo 3 characters in Halo 2 maps. I guess it would have been a little extra work, but it would have been better. The new map looks nothing like Blood Gulch from what I can tell.

tl;dr: Episode 19 is still the best of the season.

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Either.Ardrey wrote...

Anyone seen the leaked images yet for the new Turian for the Omega DLC?

 http://social.biowar.../index/14819455


SpoilerS!!!!

*clicked and esc'd out  frantically*

Modifié par gunslinger_ruiz, 06 novembre 2012 - 04:24 .


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BleedingUranium wrote...

plfranke wrote...

Seriously what is the big deal about the Turian Female? Who the hell cares?


Well, we've never seen one before, for starters (comics aside)


We've never seen a female volus, prothean, hanar, elcor, vorcha, or batarian either, but you dont see people constantly blathering on about them.

Also, for reasons I dont fully understand, the female turian reminds me of Merrill.

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Andromidius wrote...

John is MaleShep's default name.

...yeah.


Yep.  Strange how he ends up under a grind stone.  Coincidence?  Maybe...

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Davik Kang wrote...

Wayning_Star wrote...
I think the crucible is the mystery here, and it's actual designers. The ones who programmed the choices. Without those entities being fully explored, its too easy to run speculation rampent. There are very few fans/humans in realtime, that actually can get behind the choices because of that gap in information. Users have no way to understand those choices because they have no way understand them, or in other words 'identify' with them.

With indoctrination/illusion, there is no viable way to describe the magic trick from this perspective, so it ends up a no holds barred scenerio, and any kind of reality replaces the actual series of events up to the point of decisions. IT folks take that as the empty space to rewrite history to meet the theory.

Actually I think it's the Citadel that would truly be the big reveal.  The Citadel is the object capable of dark energy manipulation, and the Crucible is essentially just a power device with targeting schematics.

While the sabotage of the previous Crucible design was done by 'a splinter group who wanted to Control the Reapers', I think the mystery of the endings (if they are to be taken even remotely literally) will come down to an explanation of what the Citadel is.  I'm not one for being big on DLC reveals, but maybe Omega will reveal something about the nature of the Citadel (or the Crucible) if it tunrs out to be a construction of similar design.

The Codex description of 'PROCESSOR' in the Reaper archive could give us a clue... it is certainly applicable to the Citadel at the end (even if it is not actually the case)...


Leviathan - Reapers
Omega - Crucible
??? - Citadel
Final - :happy::lol::blink:

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gunslinger_ruiz wrote...

Either.Ardrey wrote...

Anyone seen the leaked images yet for the new Turian for the Omega DLC?

 http://social.biowar.../index/14819455


SpoilerS!!!!

*clicked and esc'd out  frantically*


I couldn't help but stare lol bad me bad.  At least I'll know who I'm seeing when I see one

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gunslinger_ruiz wrote...

Either.Ardrey wrote...

Anyone seen the leaked images yet for the new Turian for the Omega DLC?

 http://social.biowar.../index/14819455


SpoilerS!!!!

*clicked and esc'd out  frantically*


The only 'spoiler' is two pictures of a Turian female.  Nothing major.

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Andromidius wrote...

gunslinger_ruiz wrote...

Either.Ardrey wrote...

Anyone seen the leaked images yet for the new Turian for the Omega DLC?

 http://social.biowar.../index/14819455


SpoilerS!!!!

*clicked and esc'd out  frantically*


The only 'spoiler' is two pictures of a Turian female.  Nothing major.


I know but still, I like being surprised in gameplay :)

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@Byne

Flowers was awesome! And hilarious! Made perfect sense to me.

I was initially unhappy with Halo 4's look, but they used the final build in this episode, and I think it looks good.

The 17 minute thing was disappointing, I agree

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byne wrote...

We've never seen a female volus, prothean, hanar, elcor, vorcha, or batarian either, but you dont see people constantly blathering on about them.


To be fair, we may have.  Volus are in suits, Hanar are...jellyfish, Elcor are like giant apes and Vorcha...

Well.  Maybe its best not to know.

I'll agree with Batarians though.  Considering how douchy they are I can imagine a lot of female repression going on in the Hedgemony.

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gunslinger_ruiz wrote...

I know but still, I like being surprised in gameplay :)


There's two main themes from the responces:

1/ Ew, that's gross!
2/ Wow, that's hot!

Seemingly no middle ground.  Everyone seems agreed that its very well done, though, and looks suitably alien still.

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Andromidius wrote...

gunslinger_ruiz wrote...

I know but still, I like being surprised in gameplay :)


There's two main themes from the responces:

1/ Ew, that's gross!
2/ Wow, that's hot!

Seemingly no middle ground.  Everyone seems agreed that its very well done, though, and looks suitably alien still.


I think they tried too hard to make her look cute. She's not gross, and she's not hot. She basically looks as cute as a freaky dinosaur bird lady can look.

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For what it's worth, there is a female batarian in Revelation. But as Andromidius says, there's probably social repression going on so it's likely we wouldn't see many. Anyone who knows anything about turian culture will tell you there's no excuse for the absense of females though.