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[plfranke]

Rifneno wrote...

Just a guess, but do you go and solve that little tiff he and Liara have in Grunt's room after Thessia? He seems to gain a measure of respect for her in that. Perhaps if you don't do that, he doesn't gain that respect for her and doesn't want to help her with the book?

I don't know if that's what causes it but come to think of it that is the one convo I missed with him where he said he'd go live with the Hanar.

[gunslinger_ruiz]

CmdrShep80 wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

SwobyJ wrote...

So I didn't show Javik the memory shard, because I don't want him to die.

My reasoning was along similar, yet opposite lines.  I showed Javik the sheard because I want him to die.

I showed him the shard and he didn't die.  How are you getting to the conclusion that he dies by showing him the shard?

He implies he's going to end his life next to the "graves" of his fallen Prothean squadmates on whatever planet he killed/buried them on. The conversation happens at the London base. Unless I'm remembering that wrong...

[CmdrShep80]

gunslinger_ruiz wrote...

CmdrShep80 wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

SwobyJ wrote...

So I didn't show Javik the memory shard, because I don't want him to die.

My reasoning was along similar, yet opposite lines.  I showed Javik the sheard because I want him to die.

I showed him the shard and he didn't die.  How are you getting to the conclusion that he dies by showing him the shard?

He implies he's going to end his life next to the "graves" of his fallen Prothean squadmates on whatever planet he killed/buried them on. The conversation happens at the London base. Unless I'm remembering that wrong...

I thought that line was a good thing

[plfranke]

CmdrShep80 wrote...

gunslinger_ruiz wrote...

CmdrShep80 wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

SwobyJ wrote...

So I didn't show Javik the memory shard, because I don't want him to die.

My reasoning was along similar, yet opposite lines.  I showed Javik the sheard because I want him to die.

I showed him the shard and he didn't die.  How are you getting to the conclusion that he dies by showing him the shard?

He implies he's going to end his life next to the "graves" of his fallen Prothean squadmates on whatever planet he killed/buried them on. The conversation happens at the London base. Unless I'm remembering that wrong...

I thought that line was a good thing

lol he even went on about how he had no reason to live. How did you think that was a good thing?

[CmdrShep80]

plfranke wrote...

CmdrShep80 wrote...

gunslinger_ruiz wrote...

CmdrShep80 wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

SwobyJ wrote...

So I didn't show Javik the memory shard, because I don't want him to die.

My reasoning was along similar, yet opposite lines.  I showed Javik the sheard because I want him to die.

I showed him the shard and he didn't die.  How are you getting to the conclusion that he dies by showing him the shard?

He implies he's going to end his life next to the "graves" of his fallen Prothean squadmates on whatever planet he killed/buried them on. The conversation happens at the London base. Unless I'm remembering that wrong...

I thought that line was a good thing

lol he even went on about how he had no reason to live. How did you think that was a good thing?

Must have heard him wrong.  Thought I was hearing how he was a noble warrior and was going to find a way to finally put the dead ghosts to rest, didn't think he meant himself

[CmdrShep80]

Actually I think it was because I wanted to know what was in the shard too. Don't think I could undo it. It was after Priority Thessia right?

[plfranke]

CmdrShep80 wrote...

Actually I think it was because I wanted to know what was in the shard too. Don't think I could undo it. It was after Priority Thessia right?

No, because after Thessia was his fight with Liara.

[plfranke]

SwobyJ wrote...

plfranke wrote...

Anyone know how I get Javik to write the book with Liara? Do I have to not have the convo with him at all?

-Have a good Liara/Javik resolution conversation after Thessia (if you skip the confrontation between them, you can't get the Liara book outcome)

-And don't access the Memory Shard

And there ya go. If you don't do the Liara/Javik confrontation, Javik instead wants to.. be the king of the Hanar . So three outcomes in total.

Thanks Rifneno also mentioned that. Well that's cool, I didn't know it made that big of an impact on their relationship.

[demersel]

I thought that talking to him on the citadel it fixes that even when you look into the shard - In my playthrough he says that he'll go see the galaxy after the reapers are done with, and that i gave him a new perspective on life..... Or did i do everything wrong?

[plfranke]

demersel wrote...

I thought that talking to him on the citadel it fixes that even when you look into the shard - In my playthrough he says that he'll go see the galaxy after the reapers are done with, and that i gave him a new perspective on life..... Or did i do everything wrong?

It seems there are many different ways for that conversation to go down.

[demersel]

plfranke wrote...

demersel wrote...

I thought that talking to him on the citadel it fixes that even when you look into the shard - In my playthrough he says that he'll go see the galaxy after the reapers are done with, and that i gave him a new perspective on life..... Or did i do everything wrong?

It seems there are many different ways for that conversation to go down.

And he also said that he is looking forward to finding out what peace feels like. 

[gunslinger_ruiz]

CmdrShep80 wrote...

plfranke wrote...

CmdrShep80 wrote...

I thought that line was a good thing

lol he even went on about how he had no reason to live. How did you think that was a good thing?

Must have heard him wrong.  Thought I was hearing how he was a noble warrior and was going to find a way to finally put the dead ghosts to rest, didn't think he meant himself

I don't think it's a "good" thing, but note quite a bad thing either, more like a final act ... An end to the last Prothean (future DLC pending) the way he wants to go, with the rest of his species. IF the game still isn't over (IT or otherwise), then I'm sure there's a way for Shepard to convince him to continue living, maybe to "teach the young".

[demersel]

gunslinger_ruiz wrote...

I don't think it's a "good" thing, but note quite a bad thing either, more like a final act ... An end to the last Prothean (future DLC pending) the way he wants to go, with the rest of his species. IF the game still isn't over (IT or otherwise), then I'm sure there's a way for Shepard to convince him to continue living, maybe to "teach the young".

There is already such a way - it  happened in my playthrough. 

[Rifneno]

CmdrShep80 wrote...

gunslinger_ruiz wrote...

CmdrShep80 wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

SwobyJ wrote...

So I didn't show Javik the memory shard, because I don't want him to die.

My reasoning was along similar, yet opposite lines.  I showed Javik the sheard because I want him to die.

I showed him the shard and he didn't die.  How are you getting to the conclusion that he dies by showing him the shard?

He implies he's going to end his life next to the "graves" of his fallen Prothean squadmates on whatever planet he killed/buried them on. The conversation happens at the London base. Unless I'm remembering that wrong...

I thought that line was a good thing

I think it's a good thing.  But I'm not what you'd call a big fan of Javik.

[gunslinger_ruiz]

demersel wrote...

gunslinger_ruiz wrote...

I don't think it's a "good" thing, but note quite a bad thing either, more like a final act ... An end to the last Prothean (future DLC pending) the way he wants to go, with the rest of his species. IF the game still isn't over (IT or otherwise), then I'm sure there's a way for Shepard to convince him to continue living, maybe to "teach the young".

There is already such a way - it  happened in my playthrough. 

The visit to the Citadel? Yeah, but that's pre-London and pre-"I'm going to end my life with my comrades" convo.

[Raistlin Majare 1992]

Rifneno wrote...

I think it's a good thing.  But I'm not what you'd call a big fan of Javik.

I wasent either at start, but he kinda grew on me as he talked about what he had been through + it is interesting to see just who the Protheans were. Only thing which always put me off on him was his AI hatred.

[demersel]

gunslinger_ruiz wrote...

The visit to the Citadel? Yeah, but that's pre-London and pre-"I'm going to end my life with my comrades" convo.

I'm telling you - that's not how my London conversation with him went. It was "I'm going to g oactually see what the galaxy is like with my own eyes."

[gunslinger_ruiz]

demersel wrote...

gunslinger_ruiz wrote...

The visit to the Citadel? Yeah, but that's pre-London and pre-"I'm going to end my life with my comrades" convo.

I'm telling you - that's not how my London conversation with him went. It was "I'm going to g oactually see what the galaxy is like with my own eyes."

I need to get this convo, it sounds right.

[Raistlin Majare 1992]

demersel wrote...

gunslinger_ruiz wrote...

The visit to the Citadel? Yeah, but that's pre-London and pre-"I'm going to end my life with my comrades" convo.

I'm telling you - that's not how my London conversation with him went. It was "I'm going to g oactually see what the galaxy is like with my own eyes."

The conversation in London changes depending on if you make Javik view the memory shard or not.

If he views it you get the "lay myself to rest" conversation while not having him view the shard gets the "see the galaxy with my own eyes" conversation.

[plfranke]

Raistlin Majare 1992 wrote...

demersel wrote...

gunslinger_ruiz wrote...

The visit to the Citadel? Yeah, but that's pre-London and pre-"I'm going to end my life with my comrades" convo.

I'm telling you - that's not how my London conversation with him went. It was "I'm going to g oactually see what the galaxy is like with my own eyes."

The conversation in London changes depending on if you make Javik view the memory shard or not.

If he views it you get the "lay myself to rest" conversation while not having him view the shard gets the "see the galaxy with my own eyes" conversation.

he also mentions living with the hanar in this one I think

[demersel]

but i did make him watch the shard....