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[Davik Kang]

MaximizedAction wrote...

TSA_383 wrote...

CmdrShep80 wrote...

From the wiki. Took a few to find it again-

The keepers themselves reveal nothing of their nature and often undertake tasks that seem bizarre to other races, like rearranging offices or even changing architecture down on the Wards, with no explanation. In fact, all attempts to communicate with them have been in vain. They go about their work, seemingly oblivious to the hustle and bustle going on around them. Apart from curious scientists (and the occasional inconvenienced citizen who has had their office rearranged) most people on the Citadel stop noticing the keepers soon after they arrive.

Sounds like people are being indoctrinated by the citadel...
It's pretty interesting that we only see one of them in ME3 actually.

Oh you...

Talking of Keepers...

Vigil speculates that the Keepers might have been the first race to have been Reaperised...

We know now that it's not true... but they may have been one of the first... and I am pretty convinced that Keeper physiology is why we see four handles on the Control device at the end...

Vigil also says something about groups of indoctrinated Protheans being given refuge on the Citadel - these sleeper agents were able to sabotage Prothean efforts from within.  So aside from any people on the Citadel who are already indoctrinated, the refugee sector might be a good place to look for potential sleeper agents, indoctrinated persons, or other clues...

[Restrider]

Totally off-topic, but does anyone else like the look of the refugee asari? Especially that one that lies on the bench catatonically watching to the ceiling?

On-topic:
I wonder what happened about Chorban's data. We get that email in ME2 that the Keepers are waiting for some kind of signal, etc. By that time, we already know what that means, but that public does not. Wouldn't you think that data about the Keepers would interest the scientific community, since that is a topic that no one was really able to get information about? Or do you think that Chorban's data was ignored as many other facts hinting at the truth of the cycles?

[Restrider]

This.
Just to set things straight.

[Dwailing]

Restrider wrote...

This.
Just to set things straight.

I like the endings because I believe in IT.  If it wasn't for IT, the endings would be merely OK.

[Rifneno]

I like the endings because I believe in IT. If it wasn't for IT, the endings would be merely the worst thing since cancer.

[masster blaster]

Rstrider it's ilegal to scan Keepers for some reason. I also remember if you really got close to one they would explode. Now about the Keepers I have a feeling they are the thrall race that the Leviathans controled. Yet Harbinger geneticaly changed the Keepers into what we see them now.

Just like Harbinger did to the Protheans.

Actaully you see similartys to the prothean cycle and Leviathans.

Protheans controled the galaxy by force so did the Leviathans. The Protheans saw themselves as supieor beings in the galaxy and ordered the minor races to build status of Protheans.

The Leviathans ordered the thrall races for tribute.

Now the Protheans fell because they were not untied as well as the Leviathans each Leviathan probably was like the protheans.

They couldn't adapt or do anything.

Further more it led to their destruction.



Oh and I forgot about this.

When we talk to Vigil in ME1 he says that the Reapers left the Indoctrinated forces behind. The Collectors were left behind to over see the next cycle/ be a silent strike force.

Now the funny part about this is that the Collectors will trade their tech with the lesser races? Hello Reapers giving free tech.

Also Vigil say the Reapers took all of the Prothean's tech, and I bet you their tatics as well.

[masster blaster]

Oh I forgot to say this in my last post. If the Citadel dlc is true, then that also means we got to the world where the first Reaper Harbinger was created right? Or was it the Leviathans?

Anyways what if you have the Leviathan dlc and you get the Citadel dlc? What if the Leviathans try to stop Shepard from going to the Reaper home world, or the their home world?

Also what if their was an AI, but Harbinger over through it, and is now Controlling it as well as the Reapers? Now that would be a twist.

You see when the brat created Harbinger is was made of of god billions of Leviathan or maybe one? Now this is a Leviathan that he is creating but as a Synthetic/Organic creater.

Now Leviathans see themselfs as the apex of evoultion, but imagian billions of Leviathans into one mind one body. It will think it's supieor than it's own kind. The AI is just a puppet of the real master mind. Harbinger. Or

Harbinger is the AI, or Harbinger killed the Original AI when it was created, and Harbinger is just using what you find out about the Leviathan's say " The AI over saw bla bla bla." Yet Harbinger uses this to fool Shepard/ the player into thinking this is real.

I like number 1 or 2.

[Humakt83]

Liara: "You are too kind."

And she's looking at the player not Shepard.

[paxxton]

Humakt83 wrote...

Liara: "You are too kind."

And she's looking at the player not Shepard.

When exactly?

[Humakt83]

paxxton wrote...

Humakt83 wrote...

Liara: "You are too kind."

And she's looking at the player not Shepard.

When exactly?

When you first meet her in Mass Effect 3. On Mars. Only if you are romancing her though.

Ashley: "Could the Cerberus be working with the Reapers?"
Shepard: "Doubtful but anything is possible."

Modifié par Humakt83, 06 novembre 2012 - 07:31 .

[ZerebusPrime]

I just had a funny thought about a missed opportunity. BioWare could have made the Keepers be descended from tick-like creatures that live on the surface of Leviathans.

....or maybe that would have been too Cloverfield.

[paxxton]

Humakt83 wrote...

paxxton wrote...

Humakt83 wrote...

Liara: "You are too kind."

And she's looking at the player not Shepard.

When exactly?

When you first meet her in Mass Effect 3. On Mars. Only if you are romancing her though.

Ashley: "Could the Cerberus be working with the Reapers?"
Shepard: "Doubtful but anything is possible."

Another variant of that talk:
Liara: "I meant to come see you. But..."
FemShep: "I would've liked that. But under the circumstances I think I can forgive you."

Modifié par paxxton, 06 novembre 2012 - 07:54 .

[Humakt83]

paxxton wrote...

Humakt83 wrote...

paxxton wrote...

Humakt83 wrote...

Liara: "You are too kind."

And she's looking at the player not Shepard.

When exactly?

When you first meet her in Mass Effect 3. On Mars. Only if you are romancing her though.

Ashley: "Could the Cerberus be working with the Reapers?"
Shepard: "Doubtful but anything is possible."

Another variant of that talk:
Liara: "I meant to come see you. But..."
FemShep: "I would've liked that. But under the circumstances I think I can forgive you."

It's not a variant. Liara's "You are too kind." - reply comes afterwards.

[paxxton]

Indeed. Liara is looking straight into the camera. It could mean the player is too kind to consider her an ally when she's in fact indoctrinated.

Modifié par paxxton, 06 novembre 2012 - 07:59 .

[BatmanTurian]

paxxton wrote...

Indeed. Liara is looking straight into the camera. It could mean the player is too kind to consider her an ally when she's in fact indoctrinated.

This again? *facepalm*

[paxxton]

BatmanTurian wrote...

paxxton wrote...

Indeed. Liara is looking straight into the camera. It could mean the player is too kind to consider her an ally when she's in fact indoctrinated.

This again? *facepalm*

Why not? Her name even suggests as much.

[BatmanTurian]

paxxton wrote...

BatmanTurian wrote...

paxxton wrote...

Indeed. Liara is looking straight into the camera. It could mean the player is too kind to consider her an ally when she's in fact indoctrinated.

This again? *facepalm*

Why not? Her name even suggests as much.

Her actions suggest the opposite.

[Davik Kang]

paxxton wrote...
Why not? Her name even suggests as much.

She has spent most of her whole life around Prothean artifacts...

Her mother was the **** queen of Saren and Sovereign...

However, it is her presence in ME3 that appears to snap Shepard out of her dreams...

And she is also responsible for constructing the information device that presumably saves future cycles if this one is to fail...

I think we'd need something that at least suggests she's helping the wrong side before casting doubt on her motives...

Modifié par Davik Kang, 06 novembre 2012 - 08:11 .

[paxxton]

Liara is well camouflaged. Even the best spy buster wouldn't uncover her true allegiance.

Modifié par paxxton, 06 novembre 2012 - 08:17 .

[BatmanTurian]

paxxton wrote...

Liara is well camouflaged. Even the best spy hunter wouldn't uncover her true allegiance.

This coming from the guy that likes the Control ending the most...

[paxxton]

BatmanTurian wrote...

paxxton wrote...

Liara is well camouflaged. Even the best spy hunter wouldn't uncover her true allegiance.

This coming from the guy that likes the Control ending the most...

After Control Shepard possesses mental powers that allow him to see through the veil of her lies.

[Rifneno]

paxxton wrote...

Indeed. Liara is looking straight into the camera. It could mean the player is too kind to consider her an ally when she's in fact indoctrinated.

That's not even reasonable enough to be called grasping at straws.

[Humakt83]

Shepard: "How can you compare me to that thing?"
Ashley: "I don't know what you are. Not since they got their hands on you."
Ashley: "Is it really you? Would you even know if they were controlling you somehow?"

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Illusive Man: "We can dominate them, use their power, harness their very essence to bring humanity to the apex of evolution."

Sounds like TIM got more than little synthesis supporter blood in him.

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Center of the citadel has a gigantic light at the middle. This has been since Mass Effect 2. There was no such thing in Mass Effect 1 (before Sovereign's tampering at least). Being of light? Can anyone confirm?

Modifié par Humakt83, 06 novembre 2012 - 09:16 .

[Arian Dynas]

Hey folks. Popping in for a visit. What's new?

[Rifneno]

Arian Dynas wrote...

Hey folks. Popping in for a visit. What's new?

Same old, same old.  Synthesis is still dumber than scientology.  Only a visit?  Not sticking around?