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[gunslinger_ruiz]

Anyone know what time N7 day actually starts? The events and such I mean, 4am? 7am (since it's N7 day and all)? or maybe noon when most gamers are up...

Wonder if it will be all day or until next week like the halloween event.

[CmdrShep80]

Jade8aby88 wrote...

BatmanTurian wrote...

Jade8aby88 wrote...

Speaking of Shepard's cabin. I STILL find it strange that when you wake up from Dream 2 you're standing up.

Doesn't anyone else?

No, I think it's important. Shepard may have been losing sleep from the nightmares (the game takes place over a year, so who says these nightmares didn't happen multiple times) and had a microsleep episode from exhaustion and fell asleep while doing paperwork.

Really? I'd love to see evidence to support that!

I'm posting this from WebMD.  I didn't post everything by the way just some key things that relate.  Keep in mind I'm Commander Shepard right, so I shouldn't be self-diagnosing but here's a few fun facts as Commander Shepard:

1 - Sleep Loss Impairs Judgment, Especially About Sleep
Lack of sleep can affect our interpretation of events. This hurts our ability to make sound judgments because we may not assess situations accurately and act on them wisely.
Sleep-deprived people seem to be especially prone to poor judgment when it comes to assessing what lack of sleep is doing to them. In our increasingly fast-paced world, functioning on less sleep has become a kind of badge of honor. But sleep specialists say if you think you’re doing fine on less sleep, you’re probably wrong. And if you work in a profession where it’s important to be able to judge your level of functioning, this can be a big problem.
“Studies show that over time, people who are getting six hours of sleep, instead of seven or eight, begin to feel that they’ve adapted to that sleep deprivation -- they’ve gotten used to it,” Gehrman says. “But if you look at how they actually do on tests of mental alertness and performance, they continue to go downhill. So there’s a point in sleep deprivation when we lose touch with how impaired we are.”

2-Lack of Sleep May Increase Risk of Death
In the “Whitehall II Study,” British researchers looked at how sleep patterns affected the mortality of more than 10,000 British civil servants over two decades. The results, published in 2007, showed that those who had cut their sleep from seven to five hours or fewer a night nearly doubled their risk of death from all causes

3-Sleepiness Makes You Forgetful
Trying to keep your memory sharp? Try getting plenty of sleep.
In 2009, American and French researchers determined that brain events called “sharp wave ripples” are responsible for consolidating memory. The ripples also transfer learned information from the hippocampus to the neocortex of the brain, where long-term memories are stored. Sharp wave ripples occur mostly during the deepest levels of sleep.

4-Sleepiness Is Depressing
Over time, lack of sleep and sleep disorders can contribute to the symptoms of depression. In a 2005 Sleep in America poll, people who were diagnosed with depression or anxiety were more likely to sleep less than six hours at night.
The most common sleep disorder, insomnia, has the strongest link to depression. In a 2007 study of 10,000 people, those with insomnia were five times as likely to develop depression as those without. In fact, insomnia is often one of the first symptoms of depression.
Insomnia and depression feed on each other. Sleep loss often aggravates the symptoms of depression, and depression can make it more difficult to fall asleep. On the positive side, treating sleep problems can help depression and its symptoms, and vice versa.

5-Sleep Loss Dumbs You Down
Sleep plays a critical role in thinking and learning. Lack of sleep hurts these cognitive processes in many ways. First, it impairs attention, alertness, concentration, reasoning, and problem solving. This makes it more difficult to learn efficiently.
Second, during the night, various sleep cycles play a role in “consolidating” memories in the mind. If you don’t get enough sleep, you won’t be able to remember what you learned and experienced during the day.

6-Sleepiness Causes Accidents
Sleep deprivation was a factor in some of the biggest disasters in recent history: the 1979 nuclear accident at Three Mile Island, the massive Exxon Valdez oil spill, the 1986 nuclear meltdown at Chernobyl, and others.
But sleep loss is also a big public safety hazard every day on the road. Drowsiness can slow reaction time as much as driving drunk. The National Highway Traffic Safety Administration estimates that fatigue is a cause in 100,000 auto crashes and 1,550 crash-related deaths a year in the U.S. The problem is greatest among people under 25 years old.
Studies show that sleep loss and poor-quality sleep also lead to accidents and injuries on the job. In one study, workers who complained about excessive daytime sleepiness had significantly more work accidents, particularly repeated work accidents. They also had more sick days per accident

[CmdrShep80]

The above previous post is just a small part. It gets into things like impaired reaction time, difficulty determing poor sleep vs depression, having anger and irritability, impairs memory, slows down thought processes, etc.

Don't forget the founders of this whole ME were doctors. So they would know the effects. Because we play as FPS we can't accurately say that Sheaprd is or isn't experiencing sleeplessness because to us, he's fine. But just like the previous post says, we can inaccurately measure sleeplessness and believe that we're fine even if we're impaired significantly. We ourselves can't see our sleepless impairments as well as others. The source of the proof would have to come from statements made by other people Shepard interacts with

[BatmanTurian]

CmdrShep80 wrote...

The above previous post is just a small part. It gets into things like impaired reaction time, difficulty determing poor sleep vs depression, having anger and irritability, impairs memory, slows down thought processes, etc.

Don't forget the founders of this whole ME were doctors. So they would know the effects. Because we play as FPS we can't accurately say that Sheaprd is or isn't experiencing sleeplessness because to us, he's fine. But just like the previous post says, we can inaccurately measure sleeplessness and believe that we're fine even if we're impaired significantly. We ourselves can't see our sleepless impairments as well as others. The source of the proof would have to come from statements made by other people Shepard interacts with

And sleep loss would increase the effects of indoctrination, making the victim more susceptible. Once you have the nighmares and start losing sleep, it becomes a self-perpetuating cycle, further breaking down the mind and will of the victim.

[BatmanTurian]

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[CmdrShep80]

BatmanTurian wrote...

CmdrShep80 wrote...

The above previous post is just a small part. It gets into things like impaired reaction time, difficulty determing poor sleep vs depression, having anger and irritability, impairs memory, slows down thought processes, etc.

Don't forget the founders of this whole ME were doctors. So they would know the effects. Because we play as FPS we can't accurately say that Sheaprd is or isn't experiencing sleeplessness because to us, he's fine. But just like the previous post says, we can inaccurately measure sleeplessness and believe that we're fine even if we're impaired significantly. We ourselves can't see our sleepless impairments as well as others. The source of the proof would have to come from statements made by other people Shepard interacts with

And sleep loss would increase the effects of indoctrination, making the victim more susceptible. Once you have the nighmares and start losing sleep, it becomes a self-perpetuating cycle, further breaking down the mind and will of the victim.

Yep just like Rana and Seren said.  Indoctrination breaks down a person's willpower (paraphrasing) "But I won't let that happen to me."  Then shepard says something like "You're indoctrinated, don't you see that?"  This would be an example of impaired judgement based on a belief that Rana and Seren are fine while we see they are not.  They can't rationalize what's happened to them because the poor sleep caught up to them and impaired their ability to think clearly

[CmdrShep80]

BatmanTurian wrote...

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[BatmanTurian]

CmdrShep80 wrote...

BatmanTurian wrote...

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I had to double-post to make the thread update. Sometimes it craps out on me and I can't update.

[CmdrShep80]

By the way if you've ever tried to convince a delusional person that reality is not what the delusional person is saying, they will become defensive and not believe you because in their own mind it is right.  This can include, "You have a mental illness."  They will say that they do not because they believe it to be true even though people outside of themselves do not see it.
An example is the Asari at Huerta Memorial with PTSD.  The counselor believes she's suffering from symptoms of PTSD but the Asari herself believes nothing is wrong with her even as she's explaining what happened to her.  All she just needs a gun to protect herself from the Reapers.  Nothing wrong with that for anyone else but for her she's imparied on what she was going to do with the gun such as when she goes and uses it on herself.

When you re-watch the vid (it shows the whole conversation), take a guess of how long she was not in contact with the world and how much sleep she had?  There's some hints in the conversations

[CmdrShep80]

BatmanTurian wrote...

CmdrShep80 wrote...

BatmanTurian wrote...

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I had to double-post to make the thread update. Sometimes it craps out on me and I can't update.

I've had that a few times, more on the phone than the computer

[BatmanTurian]

CmdrShep80 wrote...

BatmanTurian wrote...

CmdrShep80 wrote...

BatmanTurian wrote...

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I had to double-post to make the thread update. Sometimes it craps out on me and I can't update.

I've had that a few times, more on the phone than the computer

It might be a Firefox thing or just some forum bug.

[CmdrShep80]

BatmanTurian wrote...

CmdrShep80 wrote...

BatmanTurian wrote...

CmdrShep80 wrote...

BatmanTurian wrote...

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I had to double-post to make the thread update. Sometimes it craps out on me and I can't update.

I've had that a few times, more on the phone than the computer

It might be a Firefox thing or just some forum bug.

Or it's a symptom of being indoctrinated

LOL just had to, couldn't help it

[Jadebaby]

BatmanTurian wrote...

Jade8aby88 wrote...

BatmanTurian wrote...

Jade8aby88 wrote...

Speaking of Shepard's cabin. I STILL find it strange that when you wake up from Dream 2 you're standing up.

Doesn't anyone else?

No, I think it's important. Shepard may have been losing sleep from the nightmares (the game takes place over a year, so who says these nightmares didn't happen multiple times) and had a microsleep episode from exhaustion and fell asleep while doing paperwork.

Really? I'd love to see evidence to support that!

Fair enough. My only evidence is circumstantial. The MP operations seem to be taking place over a long period of time, synching up with certain events in the single-player game.

I understand that but remember it might seem longer for us than it really is..

For example; Operation wonderbread could be on one saturday, then two weeks later operation twice the fibre starts a couple of days after wonderbread in the MEverse. This would be especially cool because it's usually games that have the longer time lapse.

However, regardless of the MP events and SP events. It just cant be a year... They say in the SP that the Reapers killed what? 8 million on invasion day? 12 million the next?

If it really was over the course of a year there wouldn't be an Earth left to save.

I'd say a couple of months at most.

[BatmanTurian]

Jade8aby88 wrote...

BatmanTurian wrote...

Jade8aby88 wrote...

BatmanTurian wrote...

Jade8aby88 wrote...

Speaking of Shepard's cabin. I STILL find it strange that when you wake up from Dream 2 you're standing up.

Doesn't anyone else?

No, I think it's important. Shepard may have been losing sleep from the nightmares (the game takes place over a year, so who says these nightmares didn't happen multiple times) and had a microsleep episode from exhaustion and fell asleep while doing paperwork.

Really? I'd love to see evidence to support that!

Fair enough. My only evidence is circumstantial. The MP operations seem to be taking place over a long period of time, synching up with certain events in the single-player game.

I understand that but remember it might seem longer for us than it really is..

For example; Operation wonderbread could be on one saturday, then two weeks later operation twice the fibre starts a couple of days after wonderbread in the MEverse. This would be especially cool because it's usually games that have the longer time lapse.

However, regardless of the MP events and SP events. It just cant be a year... They say in the SP that the Reapers killed what? 8 million on invasion day? 12 million the next?

If it really was over the course of a year there wouldn't be an Earth left to save.

I'd say a couple of months at most.

That makes sense. Even then, loss of sleep would add up quickly.

[CmdrShep80]

See Huerta memorial Asari vid from earlier. She's already having problems after just 3 weeks of being in the field with Reapers minimum

[Jadebaby]

CmdrShep80 wrote...

See Huerta memorial Asari vid from earlier. She's already having problems after just 3 weeks of being in the field with Reapers minimum

It's not a year. No way.

[Gwyphon]

gunslinger_ruiz wrote...

Anyone know what time N7 day actually starts? The events and such I mean, 4am? 7am (since it's N7 day and all)? or maybe noon when most gamers are up...

Wonder if it will be all day or until next week like the halloween event.

Think the leak was 8am their time (about 8 hours from now according to my clock... Yes I have a second clock set to Bioware's time DON'T JUDGE ME!) 

[CmdrShep80]

 In case you haven't seen 

***********spoilers***********

Omega from Paris
speculate at your own risk

**********end vid spoilers*******

*********danger possible vid reaction spoilers after this post******

[CmdrShep80]

Gwyphon wrote...

gunslinger_ruiz wrote...

Anyone know what time N7 day actually starts? The events and such I mean, 4am? 7am (since it's N7 day and all)? or maybe noon when most gamers are up...

Wonder if it will be all day or until next week like the halloween event.

Think the leak was 8am their time (about 8 hours from now according to my clock... Yes I have a second clock set to Bioware's time DON'T JUDGE ME!) 

should be 8am Nov 7 until 8am Nov 8. Which timezone I can't speak for

[Gwyphon]

CmdrShep80 wrote...

 In case you haven't seen 

***********spoilers***********

Omega from Paris
speculate at your own risk

**********end vid spoilers*******

*********danger possible vid reaction spoilers after this post******

Link didn't work, atleast not for me. Fixed it.

[CmdrShep80]

Ty

Edit- not sure this is the bottom yet or not but it's fitting to be on N7 day and on page 1777

Modifié par CmdrShep80, 07 novembre 2012 - 08:21 .

[AxStapleton]

Jade8aby88 wrote...

However, regardless of the MP events and SP events. It just cant be a year... They say in the SP that the Reapers killed what? 8 million on invasion day? 12 million the next?

If it really was over the course of a year there wouldn't be an Earth left to save.

I'd say a couple of months at most.

You forget that the Reapers attacked the main population centres first and so the early casualty rate would have been especially high in the early days of the invasion. It would be a tougher job and it would take far longer to route out people who have fled into more rural areas and gone into hiding (Anderson's group for example). And plus, they would need to keep people alive to complete a Human Reaper.

[Revan87]

Hmmm..Shepard separated from the Normandy team. Bad things gonna happen!
Honestly, I can't wait to play this DLC!
I just hope that Garrus and the others will show up as well in Omega.