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[Jadebaby]

CmdrShep80 wrote...

Ty

Edit- not sure this is the bottom yet or not but it's fitting to be on N7 day and on page 1777

[Jadebaby]

AxStapleton wrote...

Jade8aby88 wrote...

However, regardless of the MP events and SP events. It just cant be a year... They say in the SP that the Reapers killed what? 8 million on invasion day? 12 million the next?

If it really was over the course of a year there wouldn't be an Earth left to save.

I'd say a couple of months at most.

You forget that the Reapers attacked the main population centres first and so the early casualty rate would have been especially high in the early days of the invasion. It would be a tougher job and it would take far longer to route out people who have fled into more rural areas and gone into hiding (Anderson's group for example). And plus, they would need to keep people alive to complete a Human Reaper.

What makes people keep thinking they are going to build a human reaper again? That was a part of Dark Energy plot which doesn't matter anymore.

[AxStapleton]

Jade8aby88 wrote...

AxStapleton wrote...

Jade8aby88 wrote...

However, regardless of the MP events and SP events. It just cant be a year... They say in the SP that the Reapers killed what? 8 million on invasion day? 12 million the next?

If it really was over the course of a year there wouldn't be an Earth left to save.

I'd say a couple of months at most.

You forget that the Reapers attacked the main population centres first and so the early casualty rate would have been especially high in the early days of the invasion. It would be a tougher job and it would take far longer to route out people who have fled into more rural areas and gone into hiding (Anderson's group for example). And plus, they would need to keep people alive to complete a Human Reaper.

What makes people keep thinking they are going to build a human reaper again? That was a part of Dark Energy plot which doesn't matter anymore.

Because they try to make more Reapers every cycle . I'm not signifying a Human Reaper as being important to the plot but they need to replenish their numbers somehow every cycle (if they didn't, they would have been defeated countless cycles ago) and we know how they do that because of ME2.

[Raistlin Majare 1992]

Jade8aby88 wrote...

AxStapleton wrote...

Jade8aby88 wrote...

However, regardless of the MP events and SP events. It just cant be a year... They say in the SP that the Reapers killed what? 8 million on invasion day? 12 million the next?

If it really was over the course of a year there wouldn't be an Earth left to save.

I'd say a couple of months at most.

You forget that the Reapers attacked the main population centres first and so the early casualty rate would have been especially high in the early days of the invasion. It would be a tougher job and it would take far longer to route out people who have fled into more rural areas and gone into hiding (Anderson's group for example). And plus, they would need to keep people alive to complete a Human Reaper.

What makes people keep thinking they are going to build a human reaper again? That was a part of Dark Energy plot which doesn't matter anymore.

If we go by Catalyst bull**** the Reapers have to create a Reaper of each race to fullfill the Catalyst programming.

But throwing that aside the harvest becomes the Reapers reproduction cycle and they will want to make more of themselves, especially considering the losses suffered in this cycle. For this purpose humans are according to what Harbinger says during the Proto Reaper fight the only viable species.

The bit where Harbinger basicly says all other species are not viable for ascension is also a huge bit of evidence against Catalyst since according to Catalyst its programming is to preserve all species, even Synthetic species (which Harbinger refers to as "Geth. An Annoyance." Really sounds like it is in his plans to preserve them.)

Modifié par Raistlin Majare 1992, 07 novembre 2012 - 09:32 .

[gunslinger_ruiz]

N7 day stuff posted here: link

Fan kit, N7 challenge in MP, twitter stuffs.... looks like some fun events.

[Andromidius]

Yep. Especially when Harbinger's excuse for not wanting to Reap Turians was 'you're too primative'.

Which is stupid considering Turians are more technologically advanced then Humans are (militarily, at least). Hardly primative.

[gunslinger_ruiz]

Andromidius wrote...

Yep. Especially when Harbinger's excuse for not wanting to Reap Turians was 'you're too primative'.

Which is stupid considering Turians are more technologically advanced then Humans are (militarily, at least). Hardly primative.

Couple of points:
According to the books Turians are at about the same level of techology as Humans, they do have a much larger military.

I believe Harbinger meant "too primative" in a sense that their genetic strength was too primative, weak compared to the malleability of human genetics.

Modifié par gunslinger_ruiz, 07 novembre 2012 - 09:33 .

[Raistlin Majare 1992]

gunslinger_ruiz wrote...

Andromidius wrote...

Yep. Especially when Harbinger's excuse for not wanting to Reap Turians was 'you're too primative'.

Which is stupid considering Turians are more technologically advanced then Humans are (militarily, at least). Hardly primative.

Couple of points:
According to the books Turians are at about the same level of techology as Humans, they do have a much larger military.

I believe Harbinger meant "too primative" in a sense that their genetic strength was too primative, weak compared to the malleability of human genetics.

Still dosent change that Harbingers quotes during the Proto Reaper fight contradicts the Catalyst words about harvesting and storing all Organic and Synthetic life in Reaper form. Seems Harbinger dident quite read the job describtion

[gunslinger_ruiz]

Raistlin Majare 1992 wrote...

Still dosent change that Harbingers quotes during the Proto Reaper fight contradicts the Catalyst words about harvesting and storing all Organic and Synthetic life in Reaper form. Seems Harbinger dident quite read the job describtion

Oh yes definitely, it's another reason not to believe the Catalyst.

However, I think Harbinger was commenting on viable species for Reaper construction specifically in those exchanges.

[Andromidius]

I still think Harbinger was grasping at straws with his reasoning. The way its said, its like he was just trying to make something up quick to save face. Every other species had a decent reason, such as short lifespans, reliance on alien interaction to sustain the gene pool, low population, etc...

Then 'too primative'. Yeah okay there big guy. You could have said 'too scaley to properly blend down into paste' and had more credibility.

[gunslinger_ruiz]

Maybe he was making a Reaper-inside-joke ... ?
Something we wouldn't comprehend unless we were there.

[Gwyphon]

If you read the Evolution comic, it actually kind of seems that Turian society is pretty primitive, just in it's beliefs and customs. It was (for me) one of the most surprising points of Evolution.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

gunslinger_ruiz wrote...

Raistlin Majare 1992 wrote...

Still dosent change that Harbingers quotes during the Proto Reaper fight contradicts the Catalyst words about harvesting and storing all Organic and Synthetic life in Reaper form. Seems Harbinger dident quite read the job describtion

Oh yes definitely, it's another reason not to believe the Catalyst.

However, I think Harbinger was commenting on viable species for Reaper construction specifically in those exchanges.

Once ME3 came out and I saw the Reaper Destroyers, I always thought that Harbinger meant that the non-human races of this cycle were not fit to become Reaper Dreadnaughts.

[Raphamon]

There is another possible explanation for the BS ending in ME3

-The staff was high and/or drunk while they were creating the ending.

Modifié par Raphamon, 07 novembre 2012 - 10:26 .

[Raistlin Majare 1992]

LDS Darth Revan wrote...

gunslinger_ruiz wrote...

Raistlin Majare 1992 wrote...

Still dosent change that Harbingers quotes during the Proto Reaper fight contradicts the Catalyst words about harvesting and storing all Organic and Synthetic life in Reaper form. Seems Harbinger dident quite read the job describtion

Oh yes definitely, it's another reason not to believe the Catalyst.

However, I think Harbinger was commenting on viable species for Reaper construction specifically in those exchanges.

Once ME3 came out and I saw the Reaper Destroyers, I always thought that Harbinger meant that the non-human races of this cycle were not fit to become Reaper Dreadnaughts.

That is a possibility, one I have considered and which is quite likely, but it dosent quite measure up with Harbingers "Geth. An Annoyance" line from the Proto Reaper fight when you consider that Catalyst says they preserve Organic and Synthetic lifeforms. Why would the Geth be merely "an Annoyance" if they have the same priority on the Ascension scale as everyone else?

Also the mere fact that the Reaper directly try to cause the exintinction of the Geth or Quarians in ME3 should tell anyone that something is seriusly wrong with the Catalyst. He is designed to preserve the species of each cycle, yet is causing the extermination of a species without preserving them first?

Modifié par Raistlin Majare 1992, 07 novembre 2012 - 10:37 .

[Raistlin Majare 1992]

Raphamon wrote...

There is another possible explanation for the BS ending in ME3

-The staff was high and/or drunk while they were creating the ending.

The Intoxication Theory

[Eryri]

Raistlin Majare 1992 wrote...

LDS Darth Revan wrote...

gunslinger_ruiz wrote...

Raistlin Majare 1992 wrote...

Still dosent change that Harbingers quotes during the Proto Reaper fight contradicts the Catalyst words about harvesting and storing all Organic and Synthetic life in Reaper form. Seems Harbinger dident quite read the job describtion

Oh yes definitely, it's another reason not to believe the Catalyst.

However, I think Harbinger was commenting on viable species for Reaper construction specifically in those exchanges.

Once ME3 came out and I saw the Reaper Destroyers, I always thought that Harbinger meant that the non-human races of this cycle were not fit to become Reaper Dreadnaughts.

That is a possibility, one I have considered, but it dosent quite measure up with Harbingers "Geth. An Annoyance" line from the Proto Reaper fight when you consider that Catalyst says they preserve Organic and Synthetic lifeforms. Why would the Geth be merely "an Annoyance" if they have the same priority on the Ascension scale as everyone else?

Also the mere fact that the Reaper directly try to cause the exintinction of the Geth or Quarians in ME3 should tell anyone that something is seriusly wrong with the Catalyst. He is designed to preserve the species of each cycle, yet is causing the extermination of a species without preserving them first?

Quite. The Bratalyst also fails to preserve the "bright, but not quite there yet" species like dolphins and chimps or their equivalents on other worlds - or indeed any of the other forms of life on a planet apart from the dominant one.

Plus, the functions of a gene bank and a warship don't exactly mesh together well. "I'm going to preserve your species forever by pouring it into a robotic killing machine, which I'm then going to throw into harm's way every 50,000 years in an apocalyptic war with an entire galaxy." As the meme says "Seems legit".

Anyway. Happy N7 day everyone! 

Modifié par Eryri, 07 novembre 2012 - 10:40 .

[KyreneZA]

CmdrShep80 wrote...



The reflection to the right of the phantom?  Is that the back end of the phantom?  if it is, then it suggests the glass on the right is actually behind the phantom

EDIT - then again I noticed there are 3 reflections, one to the left, one above and one to the right.  Are they all of the phantom?  That suggests the glass is actually surrounding the phantom.  Does it mean the glass is going up or down?

I wish that some ITers would get their facts straight sometimes...

That is not a Phantom, but Shepard. This is a concept that involved Shepard having to break into the Normandy and steal it from Cerberus.

[Davik Kang]

CmdrShep80 wrote...

Davik Kang wrote...

But about the 'nubbin', I didn't make my point clearly enough, sorry.  If you look at the high and low EMS vids, the difference basically seems to be an accident.  It looks like, in the high EMS version, that the 'nubbin' basically didn't render.  The 'nubbin' looks nearly identical to the ceiling structure, from where the beam emerges, and looks nothing like the contraptions on the platform, regardless of high or low EMS.  In other words, I think it's merely a bug which caused some players to invent this 'detachable nubbin' theory, which imo holds no weight whatsoever.  I could be wrong of course, but the picture evidence and explanation are so flimsy that I'll stick by my assertion for now.

Soooo based on the above, which part of the vid are you referring to?

Use this one to help me

Can't use that vid.  I'm referring to the Crucible docking scene.

I always use ladyxinsanity vids, they all cover the whole ending from the beam run:

Low EMS - see 15:50-16:15
High EMS - see 17:00-17:25

If you can find that explanation image, you'll see how the thing that has been drawn by the player looks nothing like the 'nubbin' at all.  It just looks like the contraption folded up.  The 'nubbin' is shown in the explanation pics themsleves to be a 4-sided object.  It just doesn't fit.

[ElSuperGecko]

Raistlin Majare 1992 wrote...
The bit where Harbinger basicly says all other species are not viable for ascension is also a huge bit of evidence against Catalyst since according to Catalyst its programming is to preserve all species, even Synthetic species (which Harbinger refers to as "Geth. An Annoyance." Really sounds like it is in his plans to preserve them.)

You only need to look at what they did to the Protheans to realise that "preservation" isn't exactly on the Reaper's agenda.  Javik's entire civilisation was husked and turned into mindless, soulless slave drones.

[Restrider]

BatmanTurian wrote...

Destroyers: What are you going to do to prevent anyone from building Reapers ever again?

They're hardcore attacking people who picked destroy now. I sense doubt and fear.

That scares me...
Top: Seriously, what is it with me being on top with nonsense posts and having meaningful ones at the bottom of the page .

Modifié par Restrider, 07 novembre 2012 - 11:10 .