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Was the Ending a Hallucination? - Indoctrination Theory Mark III!


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Rifneno wrote...

As for a batarian squadmate, I'm going to vote with the colonist Shepards on this one.  "Awww hell no."  The only place I like seeing a batarian is in my crosshairs.


Some Batarians are nice. Like that Marsh guy who runs the shop on Omega, and... no thats pretty much it. He is pretty nice though.

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Rifneno wrote...
Bet they didn't anticipate her character being less popular than bladder cancer.

And in response to LDS's comment about Chobot being nice, I'm sure she is.  I don't know anything about her aside from where she works and she was Allers' model/VA.  The vomitting smiley was for Allers.  No matter what Chobot is like, the character she plays sucks.  I only included the PSP pic because Allers has the same face (plus early stages of whatever the hell the Reapers do to cannibals) and because, c'mon, that pic is hilarious.

As for a batarian squadmate, I'm going to vote with the colonist Shepards on this one.  "Awww hell no."  The only place I like seeing a batarian is in my crosshairs.

Oh, okay. I thought the vomit smile was for Jessica Chobot because you used the picture of what people make fun of her for.
And as said earlier, batarian was just first thing to come to mind, though having one that responds to your origins (Colonist, War Hero, and Ruthless specifically) would be interesting.

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A "no comment" on the question of Citadel DLC. Hmm....


Yes that is the one ray of hope. We'll probably have to wait until spring for it though.

Surprised there's no Omega trailer ready yet. And that Casey and Mac are still keeping a low profile; today of all days.


casey actually tweeted today for the first time since march 17th (apparently)

https://twitter.com/...268699059687424

i'm with you on their low profile in general, though. it's an...interesting behavior.

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As much as I like a Batarian squadmate I don't think War Hero Shepard likes Batarians. I mean Shepard had to fight 10,000 batarians on Elysium. Also on that not did Joker tell you that " your under more stress than the Skillyne Blits?" I hade War Hero, but not sure about sole survivor ( that actually I think hurts Shepard the most if a lot of squadmates die), and the other one.

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MassEffectFShep wrote...

casey actually tweeted today for the first time since march 17th (apparently)

https://twitter.com/...268699059687424

i'm with you on their low profile in general, though. it's an...interesting behavior.


Thanks for the link. I believe he stated that he would "Discuss the endings, once more people have seen them"?

You'd think today would be a good day to do that. I don't feel that rather staged interview with someone from Bioware's PR department, back when they launched the EC, really counted. It certainly didn't answer any of my questions.

I think they really should start engaging with us soon if they expect to sell Omega, or the Trilogy Pack.

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Back in ME1, the turian councilor gives Shepard crap, as always, if he kills the rachni queen. He's renedouche Shepard's response.

Turian councilor: Do you enjoy committing genocide, Shepard?
Shepard: Depends upon the species, turian.

Replace turian with batarian, and you have my feelings on the matter.

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Well, I think a thank you to all the people that got this Indoctrination Theory is in order.

I just finished my first ME3 playthrough, chose destroy  but I didn't get the "breath scene", ( no EC installed as I wanted to see for myself what caused such an uproar among the fanbase ) and after reading this a lot of things make much more sense.

I guess I didn't pay enough attention on my playthroughs, but at the same time I think Bioware was unable to convey what was going on if such a large part of the players "didn't get" the ending.

Have my doubts though, if only because Bioware itself hasn't cofirmed it and I see no real reason to keep silent if its is correct...

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Eryri wrote...

MassEffectFShep wrote...

casey actually tweeted today for the first time since march 17th (apparently)

https://twitter.com/...268699059687424

i'm with you on their low profile in general, though. it's an...interesting behavior.


Thanks for the link. I believe he stated that he would "Discuss the endings, once more people have seen them"?

You'd think today would be a good day to do that. I don't feel that rather staged interview with someone from Bioware's PR department, back when they launched the EC, really counted. It certainly didn't answer any of my questions.

I think they really should start engaging with us soon if they expect to sell Omega, or the Trilogy Pack.


Agreed!

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Eryri wrote...

Thanks for the link. I believe he stated that he would "Discuss the endings, once more people have seen them"?

You'd think today would be a good day to do that. I don't feel that rather staged interview with someone from Bioware's PR department, back when they launched the EC, really counted. It certainly didn't answer any of my questions.

I think they really should start engaging with us soon if they expect to sell Omega, or the Trilogy Pack.


Which endings did he mean and what did he mean by 'see'? :bandit:

Modifié par MaximizedAction, 07 novembre 2012 - 10:53 .


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masster blaster wrote...

As much as I like a Batarian squadmate I don't think War Hero Shepard likes Batarians. I mean Shepard had to fight 10,000 batarians on Elysium. Also on that not did Joker tell you that " your under more stress than the Skillyne Blits?" I hade War Hero, but not sure about sole survivor ( that actually I think hurts Shepard the most if a lot of squadmates die), and the other one.


Ruthless Shepard is considered the "Butcher of Torfan" where he/she killed a lot of batarian terrorists (even those who surrendered) so I don't think they would get along either. Not to mention Aratoht.
I it wasn't for the invasion humans and batarians would be at war right now.
Still Bioware always gives the player insight in both sides of conflicts, and a batarian squadmate it's not that far fetched.

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masster blaster wrote...

As much as I like a Batarian squadmate I don't think War Hero Shepard likes Batarians. I mean Shepard had to fight 10,000 batarians on Elysium. Also on that not did Joker tell you that " your under more stress than the Skillyne Blits?" I hade War Hero, but not sure about sole survivor ( that actually I think hurts Shepard the most if a lot of squadmates die), and the other one.



Elysium was a rabble of pirate gangs that got really bold. The person who instigated it was in fact himself a Human.

Edit: You find this out (regardless of background), when in ME1, you go to deactivate an old nuke and the guy has the bomb and tries to trap you with it because of a grudge he has on the Alliance or War Hero Shepard specifcally.

Modifié par AxStapleton, 07 novembre 2012 - 11:02 .


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MaximizedAction wrote...

Eryri wrote...

Thanks for the link. I believe he stated that he would "Discuss the endings, once more people have seen them"?

You'd think today would be a good day to do that. I don't feel that rather staged interview with someone from Bioware's PR department, back when they launched the EC, really counted. It certainly didn't answer any of my questions.

I think they really should start engaging with us soon if they expect to sell Omega, or the Trilogy Pack.


Which endings did he mean and what did he mean by 'see'? :bandit:


I see what you mean. ^_^ They are masters of semantics, I'll give them that. Well, we can always hope.

Anyway, I've got work tomorrow, so goodnight all.

Modifié par Eryri, 07 novembre 2012 - 11:10 .


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abnocte wrote...

Well, I think a thank you to all the people that got this Indoctrination Theory is in order.

I just finished my first ME3 playthrough, chose destroy  but I didn't get the "breath scene", ( no EC installed as I wanted to see for myself what caused such an uproar among the fanbase ) and after reading this a lot of things make much more sense.

I guess I didn't pay enough attention on my playthroughs, but at the same time I think Bioware was unable to convey what was going on if such a large part of the players "didn't get" the ending.

Have my doubts though, if only because Bioware itself hasn't cofirmed it and I see no real reason to keep silent if its is correct...


Welcome.  Always nice to see open minded newcomers.  Stick around a bit or dig into some older posts if you'd like to allay those doubts somewhat.  The amount of evidence, even if most of it is circumstancial, is truly mindboggling.  I've been with IT since March and I'm still occasionally seeing new stuff that makes me go, "holy crap!"  Times like this I keep thinking we should do a group vote to decide the best pieces of evidence so we can show only the quick but convincing version to newcomers.  Personally, I think the eye thing is the best single piece.  In case you (or anyone else reading) is unaware, Shepard's eyes get that weird symbol that TIM's have when you pick control or synthesis.  TIM got those eyes from contact with a powerful indoctrination device in the comics.

I don't really think they wanted most people to "get it" the first time through.  I think it was supposed to be like a Bruce Willis in The Sixth Sense thing.  Virtually no one figured it out until the movie flat out told you at the end.  But the clues were there so that if you went back and looked with the idea in mind, it was crystal clear.  The only difference is that they haven't flat out told us yet.

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Rifneno wrote...

Times like this I keep thinking we should do a group vote to decide the best pieces of evidence so we can show only the quick but convincing version to newcomers.  Personally, I think the eye thing is the best single piece.  In case you (or anyone else reading) is unaware, Shepard's eyes get that weird symbol that TIM's have when you pick control or synthesis.  TIM got those eyes from contact with a powerful indoctrination device in the comics.


@ abnocte - The weird lightning-bolt-to-the-head warning sign next to the vent where we meet the kid is another doozy. That coupled with the Reaper growl of frustration (another reference from the novels) and the kid's vanishing act when Shepard is interrupted by Anderson.

OK, now I really am going to bed.

Modifié par Eryri, 07 novembre 2012 - 11:24 .


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Rifneno wrote...

Times like this I keep thinking we should do a group vote to decide the best pieces of evidence so we can show only the quick but convincing version to newcomers.


We did. Wasn't it Restrider's polls?

abnocte wrote...

Have my doubts though, if only because Bioware itself hasn't cofirmed it and I see no real reason to keep silent if its is correct...


They keep silent about it because it is "the hook". It also keeps people interested in DLC's. They wouldn't tell what they can show.

Modifié par Humakt83, 07 novembre 2012 - 11:47 .


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Apparently there's a bug in the N7 Day Alliance Challenge. I was rewarded with a Loyalty Pack even though I still had 1 more extraction to complete the event. Obviously, after the proper completion I was awarded nothing.

Modifié par paxxton, 07 novembre 2012 - 11:47 .


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Rifneno wrote...
As for a batarian squadmate, I'm going to vote with the colonist Shepards on this one.  "Awww hell no."  The only place I like seeing a batarian is in my crosshairs.


Ruthless Shepards don't mind Batarians...much...

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paxxton wrote...

Apparently there's a bug in the N7 Day Alliance Challenge. I was rewarded with a Loyalty Pack even though I still had 1 more extraction to complete the event. Obviously, after the proper completion I was awarded nothing.


Loyalty pack is free and you don't have to do anything to get it - everyone gets one. 

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demersel wrote...

paxxton wrote...

Apparently there's a bug in the N7 Day Alliance Challenge. I was rewarded with a Loyalty Pack even though I still had 1 more extraction to complete the event. Obviously, after the proper completion I was awarded nothing.


Loyalty pack is free and you don't have to do anything to get it - everyone gets one. 


I got a particle rifle in mine :D That and the Harrier are the only ones I didnt have yet.

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gunslinger_ruiz wrote...

demersel wrote...

paxxton wrote...

Apparently there's a bug in the N7 Day Alliance Challenge. I was rewarded with a Loyalty Pack even though I still had 1 more extraction to complete the event. Obviously, after the proper completion I was awarded nothing.


Loyalty pack is free and you don't have to do anything to get it - everyone gets one. 


I got a particle rifle in mine :D That and the Harrier are the only ones I didnt have yet.

I got a Black Widow I.

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 So in this (Omega Spoilers) Mike Gamble confirmed that there is atleast 1 more singleplayer DLC coming after Omega. Gives me hope. =]

Edit: so I can't find it. I may be full of lies. Don't know. Video is there anyway... :unsure:

Modifié par Gwyphon, 08 novembre 2012 - 12:46 .


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demersel wrote...

 This looks very much like cerberus version of Firebase White...
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This wallpaper violates the lore!!! TIM never meets in person with operatives. And certainly not with canon fodder.

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So did you know that November 7 is Bittersweet Chocolate with Almonds Day?

Modifié par paxxton, 08 novembre 2012 - 12:48 .


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You know you're desperate to find something new when you stare at the opening shot of Earth in the Mass Effect 3 loadup screen looking for cloud formations that resemble Shepard or the Catalyst.

Just saying...

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ZerebusPrime wrote...

You know you're desperate to find something new when you stare at the opening shot of Earth in the Mass Effect 3 loadup screen looking for cloud formations that resemble Shepard or the Catalyst.

Just saying...


"Perhaps.  I control the clouds.  They are my solution."