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[Andromidius]

AlexKavern wrote...

Andromidius wrote...

...why is there a bench in the middle of a forest in the dream sequences?

http://www.youtube.c...VPRNZDNx8#t=38s

Oh yeah.  Forgot about that.  Its exactly the same design too.

It just really stood out for me as being out of place.  And now I remembered that...  Well, its kind of an obvious hint.  Its right next to the child in the dream as well, so its not like its hard to find.

[ZerebusPrime]

Andromidius wrote...

AlexKavern wrote...

Andromidius wrote...

...why is there a bench in the middle of a forest in the dream sequences?

http://www.youtube.c...VPRNZDNx8#t=38s

Oh yeah.  Forgot about that.  Its exactly the same design too.

It just really stood out for me as being out of place.  And now I remembered that...  Well, its kind of an obvious hint.  Its right next to the child in the dream as well, so its not like its hard to find.

Oh hell, are we back to thinking that maybe Shepard never woke up from that first Reaper blast on the judicial chamber?

EDIT: Just watched that video again and blinked hard a few times.  Did that bench disappear when Shepard got up?

I kid you not.  The camera pans along the wall Shepard hit.  I see no bench.

Modifié par ZerebusPrime, 08 novembre 2012 - 05:14 .

[AlexKavern]

Andromidius wrote...
Well, its kind of an obvious hint. Its right next to the child in the dream as well, so its not like its hard to find.

I'm curious... how literalists can explain this from their POV?

[Rifneno]

Hmm. I don't know what it means, but I'm betting the bench was never there in the first place. It looks like a park bench, like it belongs in a park or forest such as in the dream. You don't find benches like that indoors. Especially in places like high end Alliance officials' meeting chambers. You find plush chairs, maybe a couch. A bench though?

[paxxton]

AlexKavern wrote...

Andromidius wrote...
Well, its kind of an obvious hint. Its right next to the child in the dream as well, so its not like its hard to find.

I'm curious... how literalists can explain this from their POV?

The bench is a symbol of all the furniture Shepard could've salvaged before leaving Earth.

[ZerebusPrime]

Someone needs to mark this down as evidence that Shepard is hallucinating from the very beginning of the game...

Modifié par ZerebusPrime, 08 novembre 2012 - 05:18 .

[paxxton]

AlexKavern wrote...

Andromidius wrote...

...why is there a bench in the middle of a forest in the dream sequences?

http://www.youtube.c...VPRNZDNx8#t=38s

That pic unambigously shows that FemShep isn't herself during the course of ME3.  How did it come to this, BioWare?

Modifié par paxxton, 08 novembre 2012 - 05:24 .

[Revan87]

AlexKavern wrote...

Andromidius wrote...
Well, its kind of an obvious hint. Its right next to the child in the dream as well, so its not like its hard to find.

I'm curious... how literalists can explain this from their POV?

With the answer to Life and everything: Bad Writing

[LazyTechGuy]

ElSuperGecko wrote...

MWMike2011 wrote...

Jos HendriksYes! One giant freaking piece of logic done! You won't know what it is for a while yet but I hope you'll like it.

Interestingly, Jos has commented on a thread in the multiplayer section that the tweet may not specifically be in regards to ME3's multiplayer...

LOTS OF SPECULATION FOR EVERYBODY!!!

That is something interesting.  Giant "logic".  Not "gameplay", not "character design", not "a trailer".  It's just interesting that they specifically reference the addition of logic into something, like they admit that some is needed in places.  Couple that with the idea that BW is a little cagey with some heavy story aspects of Omega.  None of the current reviews mention much about the story and there's still not a "why" yet on why we're doing anything on Omega during a galactic extinction event.  So maybe it's something.  

Was that Twitter quote in reference to Omega DLC or something further down the road?

Modifié par LazyTechGuy, 08 novembre 2012 - 05:28 .

[Rifneno]

Revan87 wrote...

AlexKavern wrote...

Andromidius wrote...
Well, its kind of an obvious hint. Its right next to the child in the dream as well, so its not like its hard to find.

I'm curious... how literalists can explain this from their POV?

With the answer to Life and everything: Bad Writing

And PTSD!  Don't forget PTSD!  PTSD is the reason gas prices are too high and Eddie Murphy hasn't made a decent movie in 15 years.

[Home run MF]

paxxton wrote...

AlexKavern wrote...

Andromidius wrote...
Well, its kind of an obvious hint. Its right next to the child in the dream as well, so its not like its hard to find.

I'm curious... how literalists can explain this from their POV?

The bench is a symbol of all the furniture Shepard could've salvaged before leaving Earth.

Indeed, I still don't understand why were they zooming in into that kid when the Ikea in the background was being blown to pieces... Think of all the flärdfulls lost 

Modifié par Home run MF, 08 novembre 2012 - 05:44 .

[jojon2se]

Logic, in programming-, as opposed to reasoning terms, is everywhere.

Press a button: Door opens.
Come across exhibit A: New dialogue options unlocks.
Grenade hits the ground: Particle- and sound emitters are activated and nearby actors are tested for damage, depending on a number of properties and assigned behaviour- and physics values. These strings of cause and effect can become rather long and complex.

[Home run MF]

Yay first double post 

Modifié par Home run MF, 08 novembre 2012 - 05:43 .

[Restrider]

Yeah, the programming aspect was mentioned by me a few pages back. Still, why put such emphasis on such a - more trivial - task. Especially with the reference "but I hope you'll like it!"?
Maybe nothing story related, but a new feature/game mechanic?

[Restrider]

Home run MF wrote...

Yay first double post 

That is technically not a double-post, since there is a poster between your posts. What I am doing is an intentional double post :0 .

[Restrider]

Triple incoming:
Guys/gals, did you notice that Seivals thread has been locked, while the parody-thread remains open? How embarassing... ^^

[spotlessvoid]

Andromidius wrote...

...why is there a bench in the middle of a forest in the dream sequences?

That's there for when the Reapers have to indoctrinate old people

[LazyTechGuy]

jojon2se wrote...

Logic, in programming-, as opposed to reasoning terms, is everywhere.

Press a button: Door opens.
Come across exhibit A: New dialogue options unlocks.
Grenade hits the ground: Particle- and sound emitters are activated and nearby actors are tested for damage, depending on a number of properties and assigned behaviour- and physics values. These strings of cause and effect can become rather long and complex.

I understand the pragmatic viewpoint of what "logic" means and it is possible.  But a door opening or a gun mechanic doesn't sound like a "giant piece of logic" that people "are gonna love".

[Home run MF]

Restrider wrote...

Home run MF wrote...

Yay first double post 

That is technically not a double-post, since there is a poster between your posts. What I am doing is an intentional double post :0 .

I was trying to edit my previous post and it seems I hit quote instead. Derp
Anyway, did you get any new conclusions on refuse? you know...about the true hero of ME 

Seival's sig is the creepiest thing I've seen in this forum.

[Restrider]

Yes... all hail the Archeology Department of the University of Serrice.
And, I don't know if you know it, but I am actually kind of pro-Refuse. At my first playthrough, I chose that, though the outcome wasn't that satisfying.
In IT perspective:
I see why people usually say that Refuse is a fail, but it is still superior to Control and by far Synthesis. A few may argue that we see the next cycle discover the Liara VI, but - as I pointed out a few pages back - this is also a vision of hope, easily Shepard's vision.
Only thing weird is the stargazer scene in that ending.

[Eryri]

LazyTechGuy wrote...

snip Couple that with the idea that BW is a little cagey with some heavy story aspects of Omega.  None of the current reviews mention much about the story and there's still not a "why" yet on why we're doing anything on Omega during a galactic extinction event.  So maybe it's something.  

SPOILERS FOR OMEGA FOLLOW.

Regarding this, there's an extraordinarily spoilertastic image on the Omega section of the official ME website - http://na.llnet.biow...121-omega-p.jpg

It basically shows Petrovsky at Aria's mercy. I really can't see them posting something this revealing, unless it takes place relatively early in the story, and it transpires that Petrovsky is not the main villain. Hopefully this means something more significant for the overall story is planned (i.e. some assumption of direct control^_^).

Modifié par Eryri, 08 novembre 2012 - 06:02 .

[jojon2se]

Well, the story, as written by the writers, does need to be wired into the game, if we are to see anything; How it unfolds, the playing out of eyegasmic scenes, etc. (EDIT: I believe implementing a really complex spaghetti flowchart may be well worth some back patting. :7)
Adjutant behaviour, perhaps?

The reliance on destroy as Shepard's waltzing through the indoctrination attempt was always the weak point of IT, as far as I am concerned -- the addition of refuse fixed that for me. :7

Modifié par jojon2se, 08 novembre 2012 - 06:09 .

[Andromidius]

ZerebusPrime wrote...
Oh hell, are we back to thinking that maybe Shepard never woke up from that first Reaper blast on the judicial chamber?

Nah.  Just thinking about the nature of the dream-bench.

Even though I wish that awful first part of the game wasn't real...

EDIT: Just watched that video again and blinked hard a few times.  Did that bench disappear when Shepard got up?

I kid you not.  The camera pans along the wall Shepard hit.  I see no bench.

Really?  Hmm.  Interesting.  Maybe the bench never existed?  Or its a goof.

[Andromidius]

paxxton wrote...

AlexKavern wrote...

Andromidius wrote...
Well, its kind of an obvious hint. Its right next to the child in the dream as well, so its not like its hard to find.

I'm curious... how literalists can explain this from their POV?

The bench is a symbol of all the furniture Shepard could've salvaged before leaving Earth.

#

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+1

[Andromidius]

Restrider wrote...

Triple incoming:
Guys/gals, did you notice that Seivals thread has been locked, while the parody-thread remains open? How embarassing... ^^

Which post is that?