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Was the Ending a Hallucination? - Indoctrination Theory Mark III!


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Dem it's because Destroy is freedom. Freedom is never just handed down to anyone, it must be earned.

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demersel wrote...

Also why does joker say Arcturus prime relay, when we are clerly in Sol? I thought the Sol relay had a different name?


You have to go through the Arcturus relay to get the Charon (Sol) relay.

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paxxton wrote...

demersel wrote...

Also why does joker say Arcturus prime relay, when we are clerly in Sol? I thought the Sol relay had a different name?

when does he say that?


In ME1 opening. 

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Yeah, no.

I see a red filter, sorry.

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demersel wrote...

paxxton wrote...

demersel wrote...

Also why does joker say Arcturus prime relay, when we are clerly in Sol? I thought the Sol relay had a different name?

when does he say that?


In ME1 opening. 

Maybe because this is not Earth. Maybe because in ME1 BioWare hadn't come up with a name for the Sol relay.

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paxxton wrote...

demersel wrote...

Also why does joker say Arcturus prime relay, when we are clerly in Sol? I thought the Sol relay had a different name?

when does he say that?


Ditto. Earth's/Sol's relay is the Charon Relay. Unless there's another one we don't know about. Which part of ME 1 are you referring to?

Modifié par CmdrShep80, 09 novembre 2012 - 04:29 .


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Rifneno wrote...

demersel wrote...

Also why does joker say Arcturus prime relay, when we are clerly in Sol? I thought the Sol relay had a different name?


You have to go through the Arcturus relay to get the Charon (Sol) relay.


So? whats your point? We are already in Sol - we fly past jupiter and neptune. The realy in Sol is Charon - you are inside Sol. To get out you have to pass through Charon. Arcturus is in another system. 

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DoomsdayDevice wrote...

Yeah, no.

I see a red filter, sorry.


Ok, so there is a filter. more credance for the whole thing being a dream. 
I just don't like anything but destroy - i'm very biast that way. 

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I thought he was referring travelling from the Charon relay to the Arcturus relay or that they had already passed through the Charon relay. Regardless, how does that relate to IT in any way?

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CmdrShep80 wrote...
Ditto. Earth's/Sol's relay is the Charon Relay. Unless there's another one we don't know about. Which part of ME 1 are you referring to?


The ME1 opening - check the link in one of my previous posts. 

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Also, accourding to ME3 opening London is among the first cities to be hit by the reapers - UK HQ is the first that is able to transmitt some video of them before they cut the signal off.

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leonia42 wrote...

I thought he was referring travelling from the Charon relay to the Arcturus relay or that they had already passed through the Charon relay. Regardless, how does that relate to IT in any way?


I just asked about it since i don't really got that part. 

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 I think I found your answer:


Arcturus is a type K1.5 IIIpe red giant star located in the constellation of Boötes and, seen from Earth, is the third brightest star in the night sky. When the Charon Relay was activated in 2149, Jon Grissom's exploratory team found that the relay led to Arcturus, 36 light years from Earth. Arcturus in turn had several other mass relays in close proximity, which enabled humanity's rapid expansion into space.

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@CmdrShep80 - thanks! That clears thing up.

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This quote from The X-Files was popping inside my head a few days ago. It fits quite well with the ending:

Shepard: What about EDI?
Harbinger: We've been over this, she's dead.
Harbinger: The Geth are dead, and you for being partly synthetic.

Shepard: Harbinger told me you were dead
EDI: And you believed him?
[Shepard nods]
EDI: Traitor. Deserter. Coward.
Shepard: What? EDI, don't. I'm dying.
EDI: You're not supposed to die, Shepard. Not here. Not in a comfortable bed with the devil outside (Harbinger).

Shepard: You don't understand, he's taken care of me.
EDI: No Shepard. He's lolled you to sleep. He's made you trade your true mission (destroy) for creature comforts (control/synthesis)

Funny part is, this scene was actually going on inside his mind. He was actually sitting on an operating table being implanted with alien technology in real life. More specifically, he was having his genetic code rewritten into an alien-human hybrid.

Replace Mulder with Shepard, EDI with Scully, and Harbinger with CSM.

Modifié par magnetite, 09 novembre 2012 - 04:44 .


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CmdrShep80 wrote...

 I think I found your answer:


Arcturus is a type K1.5 IIIpe red giant star located in the constellation of Boötes and, seen from Earth, is the third brightest star in the night sky. When the Charon Relay was activated in 2149, Jon Grissom's exploratory team found that the relay led to Arcturus, 36 light years from Earth. Arcturus in turn had several other mass relays in close proximity, which enabled humanity's rapid expansion into space.

Woould be oddsome if space travel was so simple.

Modifié par paxxton, 09 novembre 2012 - 04:46 .


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Ohai. :D

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masster blaster >>>>>>>>>>>>>>cmdrshep80

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 So here's what I was thinking you don't always have to call it the Charon relay. 

Lets assume I live in a city like Grand Rapids and I'm traveling to another city like San Francisco. 

I can call my departure area the name of the station I'm leaving from or I can call my departure from the station I'm headed to. 

For example "union station train now departing" versus "train from Grand Rapids station" now departing

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Ginissss wrote...

masster blaster >>>>>>>>>>>>>>cmdrshep80


At least MB attempts to be relevant to the thread topic at all times.

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Ginissss wrote...

masster blaster >>>>>>>>>>>>>>cmdrshep80

Masster Blaster >>>>>>>>>>>>>> The BSN

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Ok, so what do you guys thing the "press start" ME3 screen shows? Earth in the beginning of ME3, or earth form the end of ME3?

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demersel wrote...

Ok, so what do you guys thing the "press start" ME3 screen shows? Earth in the beginning of ME3, or earth form the end of ME3?

It shows "Your connection to the EA server has been lost." Posted Image

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CmdrShep80 wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

Swobyj if your BF falls for synthesis he is Indoctrinated, and that goes for Control. Or maybe he will pick refuse. On that note Ash can romance Fem Shepard.


+1 on interest of outcome for SwoobyJ bf. will he start posting here too soon? (Or does he already?)


No he doesn't really have the time, given his work and projects, and being away from home, etc.

I might get him to, once he beats the game :). Probably after I show him IT stuff, or should I get him to before that, as well?

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paxxton wrote...

demersel wrote...

Ok, so what do you guys thing the "press start" ME3 screen shows? Earth in the beginning of ME3, or earth form the end of ME3?

It shows "Your connection to the EA server has been lost." Posted Image


LMAO yep I've been getting that a lot well every time I try to play mp I go through at least 2 rounds of lost connections

EDIT - top and something relevent hmm...going back to the intros, I don't know this but could any of the people in the intro at the time have been indoctrinated?  Specifically Nilus and Udina?  Also besides the obvious literal reason, what reason would reconstructing Shepard's data serve?  If you are Shepard why are you potentially changing your record?  Why can't you correctly remember your record?

EDIT 2 - Something way more relevant.  See near the bottom, my other post about the strategy guide

Modifié par CmdrShep80, 09 novembre 2012 - 07:16 .