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Why Petrovsky's fate will decide my final verdict of ME3 as an RPG

Are peole really that serious? I mean I think he is cool but if he has to die then so be it. He brought this on himself by ticking Aria off.

Saw it, not even going to touch because of the other ridiculous complaints the person made. Bioware has a story that Shepards CAN'T opt out of? How dare they! :o

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Yeah... Time zones suck.

And it's bad for your health too.
http://blogs.scienti...-be-eliminated/

I live in the ONLY state in Australia that doesn't have daylight saving time. Why can't people just adjust to time rather than time adjusting to people?
Regardless the majority of people in here are awake when I'm asleep. :(

masster blaster wrote...

Why Petrovsky's fate will decide my final verdict of ME3 as an RPG

Are peole really that serious? I mean I think he is cool but if he has to die then so be it. He brought this on himself by ticking Aria off.

The idiots at Kotaku spoiled it with a screen shot they posted. Don't know who's more stupid, their writers or me for even having that website on one of my tabs... :unsure:

Modifié par Gwyphon, 10 novembre 2012 - 04:06 .


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Dwailing wrote...

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Interesting that the ending fronts (ignoring literal/IT-view) are usually:

Synthesis/Control vs Destroy/and to some extent Refuse


Yeah, it seems like this is the same division that existed pre-ME3 with Cerberus vs. non-Cerberus, pro-TIM vs. anti-TIM, etc.  Really, things don't change all that much.  I wonder how many Control and Synthesis supporters are people who used to want to option to work with Cerberus again in ME3?

Actually, I would've liked that option and having Cerberus as shady/gray shadowy organisation. But that's just out of roleplaying reasons, not that I wholeheartedly supported Cerberus.


Says the guy with a TIM profile pic. :P

Touché.
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Rifneno wrote...

Remember at the end of ME1 when you had to suit up to go on the exterior hull of the Citadel tower because there's no air out there? Literalists don't.

Remember that it doesn't mean there cannot be pocket of air being created at the bottom of the tower or somewhere else. Shields can hold in the air as also in ME1 you have one part of Nazara smashing the windows which if that would not be possible would have resulted in all of the air being pushed out.

Modifié par MegumiAzusa, 10 novembre 2012 - 04:10 .


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Gwyphon wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

Why Petrovsky's fate will decide my final verdict of ME3 as an RPG

Are peole really that serious? I mean I think he is cool but if he has to die then so be it. He brought this on himself by ticking Aria off.

The idiots at Kotaku spoiled it with a screen shot they posted. Don't know who's more stupid, their writers or me for even having that website on one of my tabs... :unsure:

Do you refer to the picture where Aria has grabbed Petrovsky's throat?
I suppose that this indicates that getting to Petrovsky is quite early in the DLC and that there might be something bigger going on behind the scenes. I guess this has been brought up by someone else in this thread earlier.

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Restrider wrote...

Gwyphon wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

Why Petrovsky's fate will decide my final verdict of ME3 as an RPG

Are peole really that serious? I mean I think he is cool but if he has to die then so be it. He brought this on himself by ticking Aria off.

The idiots at Kotaku spoiled it with a screen shot they posted. Don't know who's more stupid, their writers or me for even having that website on one of my tabs... :unsure:

Do you refer to the picture where Aria has grabbed Petrovsky's throat?
I suppose that this indicates that getting to Petrovsky is quite early in the DLC and that there might be something bigger going on behind the scenes. I guess this has been brought up by someone else in this thread earlier.

http://www.twitch.tv...are/b/338467865 @32:30 I think he slipped and the choice he is talking about is a choice between Aria and Nyreen.

Modifié par MegumiAzusa, 10 novembre 2012 - 04:27 .


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Everybody knows moral decisions shouldn't be made in a vacuum.


Who said that again?

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Guys I had a crazy thought. You remember in ME2 overlord that David's brother managed to Control Shepard's movment, and projected in his/her mind a virtual reallity world.

Now how was that possible? Could it have been because of Shepard's Synthetics parts, or from the Prothean cipher?

Anyways ag the end of ME3 our Shepard ( wakes up) in the Catalyst chambers that look very similar to the beam run. Now if it is an hallucination, then there is only one way Reapers can show Shepard images of the future.

The Prothean cipher. Think about this it aloud Shepard to see the Protheans distruction, and what happened in the past. Could it be possible to create a fabrication of what could be the future of the galaxy?

Oh and in Destroy I think Destroying Shepard's Synthetics is a good thing. Think about this maybe that's the only reason they can Indoctrinate Shepard because of his/her Synthetics parts. That could be why EDi, and the Geth will die because they represent the Synthetic part of Shepard. Thus why the brat wants Shepard to lead Shepard away from Destroy because it knows that's not the case.

Now if we Destroy Shepard's Synthetic side it's up to his/her willpower and readiness to live without the Synthetic parts.

Hence EMS= Shepard's willpower, and Galactic readiness= Shepard's readiness.



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Why spot it was EDI who thou has siad it.

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Well, I'll call that a lesson learned. Here I was trying to appeal to logic and reason in a new forum thread, and wound up getting the thing shut down because nearly everyone was too busy bashing on how awful BioWare and Mass Effect 3 were. Go figure, I appeal to logic, the trolls flock like moths.

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masster blaster wrote...

Why spot it was EDI who thou has siad it.


I thought that's who it was

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It's just the way things are Mike2011. That's why here it's best just come here, although some of us come out of the thread, it's a jungle out there.

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I had another thought over on the Twitter thread, about this supposed DLC from the DLC schedule that was leaked a while back, this Rebirth DLC that requires all the rest. Perhaps, after all these months, one of the teams truly has been working on some IT DLC, and they do intend to release it for free, since it truly should have been part of the main game. Not "free if you have the other DLC," free all around. You don't HAVE to have the other DLCs to play it, they are just so well integrated into the main game that they would ultimately create a seamless work.

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Restrider wrote...
snip.
I suppose that this indicates that getting to Petrovsky is quite early in the DLC and that there might be something bigger going on behind the scenes. I guess this has been brought up by someone else in this thread earlier.


Sorry, that might have been me. I apologise if that spoiled it for anyone.

I do think it's odd that Bioware themselves have that picture on their main website though. It makes me hopeful that there will be something more to Omega than helping some gangster regain her personal fiefdom in the arse-end of the galaxy. On face value that seems a bit of a diversion during a war of galactic annihilation.

Will you guys be getting Omega as soon as it comes out, or waiting to see if it has some more interesting IT clues first?

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Been playing way too much MP...what's been going on?

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Oh well...guess no one's here...I will go back to playing way too much MP =P

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D.Sharrah wrote...

Been playing way too much MP...what's been going on?


Some twitter confirmation from Mike Gamble that more single player DLC is already in production

https://twitter.com/...950993890144258

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paxxton wrote...

Gwyphon wrote...

Yeah... Time zones suck.

And it's bad for your health too.
http://blogs.scienti...-be-eliminated/


+1. I think that people should define their work schedules. Not completely mess it up via time changes twice a year

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MWMike2011 wrote...

I had another thought over on the Twitter thread, about this supposed DLC from the DLC schedule that was leaked a while back, this Rebirth DLC that requires all the rest. Perhaps, after all these months, one of the teams truly has been working on some IT DLC, and they do intend to release it for free, since it truly should have been part of the main game. Not "free if you have the other DLC," free all around. You don't HAVE to have the other DLCs to play it, they are just so well integrated into the main game that they would ultimately create a seamless work.


well it will probably get tied into the best ending sequence but if you don't have all the dlcs then you will get an ending sequence that won't show you how the dlcs helped. Think of it like a ME loyalty/completionist for those who stayed with ME till the end and played each of their releases

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Um just so we are clear. I don't have Arrival, Overlord, Kasumi,Sahdow Broker, or any ME2 weapon dlc except The Cerberus armour Normandy crash site, Zaeed, and firewalker. Also no ME1 dlc for my either, so if that's the case I will be pissed, as would a lot of others.

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masster blaster wrote...

Um just so we are clear. I don't have Arrival, Overlord, Kasumi,Sahdow Broker, or any ME2 weapon dlc except The Cerberus armour Normandy crash site, Zaeed, and firewalker. Also no ME1 dlc for my either, so if that's the case I will be pissed, as would a lot of others.


i was referring to the ME3 sp dlcs

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CmdrShep80 wrote...

MWMike2011 wrote...

I had another thought over on the Twitter thread, about this supposed DLC from the DLC schedule that was leaked a while back, this Rebirth DLC that requires all the rest. Perhaps, after all these months, one of the teams truly has been working on some IT DLC, and they do intend to release it for free, since it truly should have been part of the main game. Not "free if you have the other DLC," free all around. You don't HAVE to have the other DLCs to play it, they are just so well integrated into the main game that they would ultimately create a seamless work.


well it will probably get tied into the best ending sequence but if you don't have all the dlcs then you will get an ending sequence that won't show you how the dlcs helped. Think of it like a ME loyalty/completionist for those who stayed with ME till the end and played each of their releases

Just wanted to add that after the controversy of the ending, they probably won't risk making an 'explanation DLC' that requires full purchase of other DLCs.  Many players were upset because they did not understand the ending, and many have gone on to believe wholeheartedly that it is badly written nonsense and a betrayal by Bioware.  To make people pay to have it explained to them in-game would not be a wise move.

Despite the impression some people on here give of Bioware, I think in general they take fan loyalty and satisfaction very seriously, and they won't get themselves in a mess by underhandedly promoting their pay DLC this way (that's how people will see it).

Modifié par Davik Kang, 10 novembre 2012 - 06:54 .


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Well I don't think Microsoft for example would allow any DLC's price to be contingent on owning other DLC. What Bioware COULD do is make some of the other DLCs required to achieve the "perfect ending" or whatever.

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Didn't Square try a "buy all teh DLCs for non-****ty ending!" stunt with Final Fantasy XIII-2? How did it work out for them? I haven't kept track because the game looks like crap regardless.

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Davik Kang wrote...

CmdrShep80 wrote...

MWMike2011 wrote...

I had another thought over on the Twitter thread, about this supposed DLC from the DLC schedule that was leaked a while back, this Rebirth DLC that requires all the rest. Perhaps, after all these months, one of the teams truly has been working on some IT DLC, and they do intend to release it for free, since it truly should have been part of the main game. Not "free if you have the other DLC," free all around. You don't HAVE to have the other DLCs to play it, they are just so well integrated into the main game that they would ultimately create a seamless work.


well it will probably get tied into the best ending sequence but if you don't have all the dlcs then you will get an ending sequence that won't show you how the dlcs helped. Think of it like a ME loyalty/completionist for those who stayed with ME till the end and played each of their releases

Just wanted to add that after the controversy of the ending, they probably won't risk making an 'explanation DLC' that requires full purchase of other DLCs.  Many players were upset because they did not understand the ending, and many have gone on to believe wholeheartedly that it is badly written nonsense and a betrayal by Bioware.  To make people pay to have it explained to them in-game would not be a wise move.

Despite the impression some people on here give of Bioware, I think in general they take fan loyalty and satisfaction very seriously, and they won't get themselves in a mess by underhandedly promoting their pay DLC this way (that's how people will see it).


I completely agree. They might integrate it more into the DLC if you have all previous DLCs like CmdrShep and make it like a loyalty thing. If you have it, they will perfectly integrate it into the game. If not, that's fine too, you will just be missing out on some of it. I can only assume another reason why the SP DLC has been a little higher than expected, especially Omega, is to offset them giving the final piece of DLC away for free. If they can make this perfection, I believe wholeheartedly that they might very well be able to win quite a few fans back. Yes, it should have been integrated into the main game...but from a marketing point of view, it makes some sense. I doubt they or any other company would do it again, as it was FAR too ballsy and nearly cost them the whole thing.